• Intel Arrow Lake 275HX with CPU tuning
• RTX 5090 Mobile 175W / 5080 Mobile
• 2x16GB Kingston Fury 6400 CL38 XMP kit / CSODIMM also supported with memory tuning
• 1x Gen5 M.2 + 1x Gen4 M.2 SSD
• 16 inch miniLED 300hz QHD+ panel with local dimming switch / 300hz IPS

Initial impressions:

This model has very good build quality. It is much more solid feeling than the Clevo X580 and even some mobile workstations. The fan noise does not have any high pitched whine. It has fully customizable RGB lighting including the ability to override cold boot settings. The shipping bios has limited tuning but Premamod will be available when ready. Local dimming on the miniLED makes me like this type of panel. Unfortunately it is not the boot default but atleast it can be controlled via software.

I have tried many different memory kits so far in it. The best performing has been the Kingston Fury 2x16GB 6400 CL38 XMP kit however it has to use a custom profile with 1.25v due to shipping bios limitations. That results in ~98ns latency in Gear 2.

I will try to post a full review soon.

I've never owned an XMG (or their re-branded alternatives) , but what I like about XMG particularly is their comprehensive reviews and comparisons to earlier models (you can read the one for this model here in their xmg_gg subreddit)

One notable difference in Neo 17 compared to E23 models is that liquid cooling pipe covers the CPU again (this was available in earlier models, but was removed in E23) when ordered with 4080/4090.

I don't get why it's not available with lower-tier GPUs. Some sales trick to make you buy hiher-spec'ed units? (I'm just speculating here as I haven't looked at it close enough, and there might also be some architectural reasons for it)

They're also claiming that it will be possible to retrofit the Neo 17 E23 with the E24 thermal unit and they will annouce the price and availability sometime in the future when they have the extra parts in stock.

It's also interesting to see performance tests compared to E23, which are barely noticeable (this isn't really suprising since we essentially have the same GPU as last year and a CPU which isn't really an "upgrade"). These numbers can also serve as an indicator of what one can expect from other manufacturers in terms of performance gains in this year's models compared to last year.

Neo 16 gets a completely new all-metal chassis, and unlike Neo 17, this feels more of an "upgrade" from the previous version. Just some high-level notable changes:

- redesigned heatpipe module

- new water port connectors

- new LCD panel (2560x1600 / 240Hz with up to 500 nits of brightness and NVIDIA Advanced Optimus)

- up to 205W CPU power limit thanks to more efficient water cooling in the new design

Detailed comparison.

So it looks like the 5090 is ~11.6% more powerful than the 4090 but the Ultra 9 is 33% less powerful than the I9-13900HX.

Advice, suggestions, help please.

Product page : XMG NEO 16 (A25)

Useful information : XMG PRO & NEO 16 (2025): Deep dive and on-going updates

Driver and Bios download portal (including Bios tuning guide and control center): XMG Downloads

This laptop is also compatible with the latest portable watercooler Oasis Mk2 to reduce working temps and fan noise while increasing power limits.

Power limits table for various configuration and performance profiles in Control Center :

A complete and thorough written review from notebookchek : Review

A shorter version in video : Video review

I'll try to post a review from the version i purchased (see sig) with some benchmarks later.

Just received my new Chuwi GameBook. 

It's a Chuwi rebrand of a Tongfang laptop. Uses Tongfang's control center and the BIOS has a Chuwi skin but it's basically the base BIOS that comes with these laptops.

NoteBookCheck Review - Gaming notebook with Ryzen 9 9955HX and RTX 5070 Ti laptop GPU - Chuwi Gamebook review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

It has a 9955HX and RTX 5070 Ti, costs around 2k€ (got mine for 1850€) which is decent considering the hardware and the crazy prices for anything more powerful.

Still testing it out, I would love to have more settings to fiddle around with the CPU and RAM.

Chuwi is known for super cheap simple laptops so let's just say their software support isn't great. Since launch there's been no availability for BIOS, EC or ControlCenter updates.

Do you guys know if I can install XMG's BIOS and ControlCenter on it, or will I make a big mistake? 
XMG's APEX 16 MAX m25 is pretty much the exact same chassis and hardware, although it has a card reader that's not present on the Chuwi. They also don’t have a BIOS update available yet but surely in the future.

Also, is there a code or a way to get into advanced BIOS settings?

It’s an HX CPU so at least Curve Optimizer should be available for tinkering. It’s not present in it’s standard state.

If anyone has any question about it I'd be happy to answer. Thanks!

Chassis & Display    Recoil Series: 17" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600)
Processor (CPU)    Intel® Core™ i9 24 Core Processor 13900HX (5.4GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)    32GB Corsair 4800MHz SODIMM DDR5 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4090 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
Liquid Series® Laptop Cooling    PCS Liquid Series® Laptop Cooler
1st M.2 SSD Drive    2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
AC Adaptor    1 x 330W AC Adaptor

I have a few questions that I hope you guys could help with:
 

I'm currently hitting 23,367 in timespy. My GPU is hitting 175w but my CPU is maxing at around 115w. The liquid cooler means I have headroom to push more watts to the CPU and/or the GPU but my BIOS (currently running the XMG NEO 17 BIOS) is limited in it's functionality. The 13900HX is unlocked and overclockable by Intel's design but all of the available BIOSes are locked down. How do I get around this?

I only have a single power option in windows and that is Balanced, I've tried all of the online suggestions for having the additional power plans but not have worked. Is the High and Ultimate power plans blocked in the BIOS? Can I get around this too?

Historically I would have used a PremaMod BIOS but PCSpecialist is not a Prema Partner so I don't have that option, are there alternatives?

I welcome all suggestions.

Thanks.

What I find of equal importance is that owners who don't have problems need to provide feedback too.  It allows other potential buyers the opportunity to hear from other owners what experiences they've had.  I believe that those who have relatively trouble-free adventures usually remain silent because they, well, they don't have much to say. 

I'm happy to report that I've had a pretty easy time with my Mech 15 G3R.  There was a small hiccup right after I installed a 32GB Kingston RAM kit that did make me question my sanity for a short while.  However, after getting that kit RMA'd, this laptop has operated as error free as something running Windows can manage.  It doesn't lack for performance (and given the internals, I wouldn't expect that to be the case) and gets decent battery life (6-7 hours off the main).   I understand Tongfang is revamping the lineup for the new 4000 series GPUs and Intel's Raptor Lake furnace CPUs. From the pictures I've seen, it appears they've gone all in on cooling the GPU over the CPU, which strikes me a bit odd; with the 12900H, that thing needs all the help it can get.  The 3080ti runs relatively cool under most loads, with or without water cooling.  If the thought is that the GPU needs it more than the CPU with the more recent iteration, that could be a challenge even with the LPP. 

So, to summarize, this is a great laptop that's managed by a very good team of professionals.  Support from what must be a small office has been prompt and effective each time I've called them. 

As yet another stranger on the internet, take this with whatever grains of salt you feel is warranted, I highly recommend Eluktronics and the Mech laptop lineup.

Overview

(note this is a rewrite as my original draft was corrupted during a crash. It is not as refined as the first draft, so, if nothing else, perhaps you can appreciate the amount of hours I had to dedicate, twice...)

The CyberPower Tracer VII/Eluktronics Mech-17/XMG NEO 17, and others.

There are a few overview/reviews on youtube, so I try to focus on my personal experience and details not evident unless using the laptop as primary for a span of time.

True 17" device, with liquid cooling option, running Windows 11, Intel i9 13900HX, and full power (extra power?) RTX 4090 as configured.

TongFang opted for the less expensive i9 13900HX as their only option for cost/volume pricing, a decision I can't argue with given the price of this unit.

The Cyber Power version comes with Windows 11 by default, and has some options for customizing including Windows 11 Pro, RAM, Storage, and accessories. Their prices are also the best out of the manufacturers available to North America by several hundred dollars per unit at the cost of a limited BIOS for now. Basically, you can buy a fully configured Tracer VII, with watercooler, for the cost of a 'bare bones' Mech 17.

PHYSICAL SIZE

The laptop is a true 17" 16:10 device with thin bezels, which slots it in almost perfectly between the smaller 15.6/16" and the Larger 17.3/18" laptops.

That said, it feels larger than a 16" laptop more than the dimensions suggest. It is also reasonably deep. It kind of falls into a unique category where it is not quite small enough to be readily portable, and not quite large enough to feel like a full DTR in terms of screen size. But it leans farther into DTR size realm than the Portable laptop side.  Maybe for larger people this would be less noticeable, but it will not fit in cases designed for 16" laptops and does not carry as well as the Legion 7 16" which is only about 325gm less.

Pictures show the comparison of the Legion 7 16", on the TongFang, on the Scar 18.

CHASSIS

The chassis uses a clamshell design (single, central hinge with gaps on the sides). Personally, I have not been a huge fan of this design as it typically limits the hinge ROM, but limited ROM is pretty much standard this generation. This is different from the 16" version which uses a more traditional full hinge across the back. The gaps caused by the lid have traditionally been traps into which things like cords and lanyards get trapped, but this is somewhat mitigated by the smallness of the gaps this version has. While lid flex can also be a problem with this design, the Tongfang has a very stiff lid with little flex.

This should be the last year of this chassis, as newer screen tech and other design plans will necessitate a clean slate design, which will probably end the unique 17" 16:10 configuration.

That said, despite taking up some of the rear with liquid cooling ports, the port selection is good, better than the Scar 18 with a dedicated full SD card slot, ports on the back, and sides. Power cord also goes on the back which is my preferred location for desk organizing.

Flex is not a problem in the chassis, nor is carrying it by the corner, though just due to the size I prefer to carry it over the arm tucked to my chest.

Unscrewing the bottom panel is fairly straightforward, but note that two screws on the rear where the water-cooling loop comes in also need to be removed. The main screws near the back are very deep and the cutouts for the screws are very small, so you need a very thin driver to reach down.

There are two RGB strips/inserts on the rear, and the CP logo on the lid. That is it. Otherwise, plain black laptop.

SCREEN

Despite being physically larger, the laptop does not feel that much bigger in terms of screen size. When sitting in front of the laptop, the distance from the end of the laptop to the start of the keyboard is much larger than say the Legion 7, this has the result of pushing the screen further away from you, making the screen feel subjectively smaller.

2" seems to be the magic number. Push the 17" screen 2" further away from you than the 16" screen, and they effectively appear the same size. The legion 7 with its shorter depth is over 1" closer to you when on a desk. So, the perceived difference in size is not as much as 1" extra diameter would appear.

Colours and brightness are good, not quite to the level of Legion 7 or the Scar 18, but really only noticeable side by side. Day to day use is unaffected.

KEYBOARD

The keyboard is of 'mechanical' design.
From Eluktronics:

"Keyboard: Cherry MX® Per-Key RGB Low Profile Mechanical Keyboard - 1.8mm travel, 65gf actuation force, 20 million keystroke rating *Top function row and 10-key membrane numeric keypad are membrane keys.  Mechanical keyboard switches are highly audible while typing.  This is NOT meant for a library, but does anyone still go there anyway?"

It is very loud. Eluktroniks mentions a library, I wouldn't want to bring it to a coffee shop, or an office setting, or a college auditorium for note taking. 100WPM on this device would be distracting to everyone.

Travel is consistent, actuation force is rather high, with a lot of ramp up until sudden drop off after the actuation, and a sudden stop as the key slaps the bottom of the deck.

(I did a search and Linus Tech Tips basically described this as a ‘front loaded activation curve’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqCzNyaC3Cg 8:45 min mark)

The keyboard button choices are also a bit strange, it gives us a pause button, but no dedicated home button. There is no enter button on the numpad, and I pressed the "." button several times after typing in a string of numbers. This is mostly the result of missing a 4th column of numpad keys, the lack of which I do not understand as there is clearly enough space for the additional keys on the chassis.

Backlight on the keyboard is not uniform, and is either brighter in the middle or near the top, and the bottoms seem under lit. Very evident on the bottom row, where the windows key and the other keys on the bottom are only half illuminated.

Gizmosliptech gave rave reviews for this keyboard set up. This is my first mechanical laptop keyboard, and I don't quite feel the same way.

What follows is only opinion so feel free to skip to the next section.

{To my use and understanding, the idea behind a mechanical keyboard is consistent, repeatable, tactile (sometimes audible) actuations, which allows for a smoother typing experience and ease of touch typing. The key should activate before bottoming out, allowing you not to bottom out every time you type, since there is no padding at the bottom of the stroke, and enables short stroking of the keys for faster typing. Saves wear and tear on your fingers as well.

On this keyboard there is no tactile feedback of activation, only a sudden 'give' after a sizeable activation force, making it almost impossible to touch type due to such short travel (even though it is long for a keyboard), and no cushioning at the bottom of the stroke, the impact of which gives the only 'audible' indication that the key has activated. So, what we end up with is an odd combination of keys with slightly more key travel and no cushion at the bottom.

It actually takes more effort (actuation force) to type on (push key to movement threshold) than a desktop mechanical keyboard or any of the membrane laptop keyboards currently in my possession. My hands average-sized for my gender, yet the difference is notable.

I would prefer a good membrane keyboard with long travel on a laptop as since touch typing is more difficult, at least your strokes are cushioned at the end. The short stroke of a laptop mitigates most of the prolonged and inconsistent squishiness of cheap desktop keyboards. And a good membrane keyboard can be consistent and pleasant to type on and use consistently (think any major business line of laptops, and in my experience also the Legion 5 of 2021)

In fact, even this keyboard is better with a membrane, since the Num Pad and Fn keys use a membrane. Travel is a bit shorter, but is consistent, easier activation, quieter, and cushioned.

I wrote half this review on the laptop keyboard and half with a $30 desktop, off brand mechanical keyboard, and the difference in typing fatigue at speed is incredible. The Legion 7 2021 with its very short travel keys, which I criticized back on NBR, is more comfortable to type on for long periods.}

TOUCHPAD

The touch pad is good in responsiveness and smoothness. The button activation is smooth and relatively light, so easy to activate with fingers and not whole-hand weight. It is somewhat heavier to activate with fingers at the top of the pad, but it is still possible. This is both a pro and a con as will be seen below.

The touchpad is centered in the chassis, not to the keyboard. It is also HUGE. It is Longer and Wider than a 3.5” HDD.

The touchpad does have zones where you can turn either the right half (where your right palm will sit) off or turn off the touchpad entirely.

The problem is that because the touchpad is so huge that even with half of it turned off, you still palm-click the touchpad, which naturally selects on the screen somewhere other than where you were typing. Palm rejection does not extend to actually clicking the touchpad...

This is more than mildly annoying, as the only other solution is to consciously to lift your palm off the touchpad every time you type, which is not the best for fatigue and repetitive motion. You can turn the touchpad off, of course, but then you have to turn it on and off every time you want to use the mouse.

If the touchpad was at least keyboard centered (I pretended to type with my hands shifted to the right to simulate keyboard centered) the ulnar aspect of the palms would be straddling the touchpad making accidental touches less likely but not avoided entirely, with the L hand now being able to join in the accidental clicks as well.

SPEAKERS

They are loud. That seems to be their claim to fame. They may distort somewhat at volume, and fidelity is not the best with their down-facing nature. This seems to suffer more when lifting up the back of the keyboard since the speakers were probably tuned to reflect off the flat surface the laptop is sitting on.

Use headphones

COOLING

The laptop does come with Conductonaut, so it looks like Tongfang is giving liquid metal across the board for this model.

Air cooling is adequate for a laptop of this size and performance with a traditional heatpipe design. It is not as efficient at removing heat as the Scar 18 or other dedicated Air-Cooled laptops, with somewhat higher temps (5-10c) but still able to get top performance at the cost of noise.

Fan noise is plentiful given the amount of cooling the laptop has to produce. But compared to the Scar 18 and Legion 7, it lacks the shrill, high-pitched whine associated with most laptops. This is one of the nicest laptop fan noises I have listed to, with a lower constant wooshing sound at full bore.

Overall, it is less noisy than the Scar 18. And while still audible with headphones, it is not disruptive due to the low pitch and easy to ignore. Max fans are louder but still not shrill. It is also not so loud as to irritate those in close proximity. Overall good for a gaming laptop.

On Air, GPU temps remained good generally under 80c at my typical less-than-maxed loads, CPU temps would peak into the 80's and 90's regularly, and occasional bumps to 100c which seems to be the norm for this gen of CPUs. I wonder if the sensor position or the way it is reading is different from previous gen, because the time to temp spikes seems very low.

Water cooling seems to have more effect for temperatures and noise rather than performance. Gizmosliptech's review seems to indicate that despite additional CPU wattage available, it does not generally improve performance by a lot.

BIOS

Cyberpower, despite having the same layouts as the other resellers, does not have the unlockable options in the bios, making it the least configurable behind Eluktronics and XMG.

If you want to use the bios to make some tweaks you are out of luck with CyberPower's implementation. But if you are happy with the stock performance, which on the GPU side is better than pretty much all other offerings, then I see no reason not to save a couple hundred dollars and buy CyberPower.

Given how similar these laptops are it might be possible to Flash a Premamod bios onto them, but that is certainly a risky experiment.

Drivers

At present, weak implementation. Drivers for the Tracer VII only started popping up 3/14, and only one driver (the audio driver) as of 3/25. I was able to bum a bunch of the drivers from the Eluktronics page, but I don't know that there is any excuse for not having drivers on a product that released weeks ago.

Support

I had several interactions with cyber power when purchasing this laptop, and every time I spoke with someone they came across as indifferent. There was no drive, no enthusiasm. Very flat, and almost a bother to be talked to.

Contrast this with Newegg who always had energetic, knowledgeable and engaging people come onto the line.

CONCLUSION

Overall, I think that this is exactly what a boutique (read non-mainstream) manufacturer can and should do. It brings together a bunch of different ideas and tech under a price point that many can afford at the cost of being perhaps not the best executed, or the most refined. But where else can you get what it offers?

Performance is excellent for the size and in terms of raw numbers beats pretty much every other laptop out there on the GPU side.

If deciding between this and the 16" version, I think it would depend on your needs. If you don't need the bigger screen real estate, and want portability, definitely go 16". If you don't mind sacrificing some of that for a somewhat bigger screen, maybe give the 17" consideration.

Going forward, I think the 16 / 18" split makes more sense than this midway option, as it feels like a bad Goldilocks situation where it is neither too small, nor too large, and kind of loses out on both. This should be self-limited, however, as next gen should be a new chassis.

An 18" version of this laptop, with a quieter keyboard and a reasonably sized touchpad would suit my needs perfectly. In fact, if only for the keyboard and the touchpad (or perhaps just the keyboard layout), I probably would have kept it as primary.

This laptop enclosure seems to be fairly widely used (which makes sense it is very nice) but it seems like you've got to know someone in china to get parts.

I can't tell which of the numbers on the part might be the part number and in any case google doesn't give any results for any of them. 

Thanks for the help!

Ordering Process

I used their website to purchase after their pricing promotion started and barebones options were added. This was great for me as I already had 32GB of Samsung DDR5-4800 CL40 memory on hand as well as SSD and Windows license. Checkout forwarded me to paypal, which generated a receipt with specs but for some reason this order did not get associated to my account on their site so I could not see status updates. Eventually a few days later I received an email for shipping notification.

Shipping

I choose their $8 option which was UPS Ground. The package was picked up in PA the same day the label was generated. I will note that hold for pickup was not available for me via UPS MyChoice. Signature was required. The box was packed well a discreet outer brown box and they also put a piece of tape over the barcode on the UPS label which was nice as it keeps water damage on the label from preventing scans. There was also a piece of paper explaining their return policy before opening the laptop package.

Build Quality

The Lid and Bottom panel are made of thick aluminum that is rigid and does not flex. The palm rest is made of magnesium alloy and covered with a soft touch material similar to what is found on the Dell Precision laptops. Compared to the MAX 17 I would say its a bit less quality, but still more solid than the Clevo laptops I have used in the past.

Disassembly

My configuration was barebones so the first thing I needed to do was remove the bottom panel. All of the screws on the bottom panel fully remove, and the two near the back center need a deeper screwdriver bit as they are recessed. There are also two screws on the back near the water inlet/outlets. Then prying from the sides near the USB ports working towards the back and front the plastic clips eventually released.

The M.2 screws were already installed in the screw holes. Drive installation was easy and the user manual indicated the slot closest to the fan was primary. The included Intel AX201 Wifi card was already pre-installed.

Initial Boot / BIOS

After a minute the system booted and I took a look at the bios. It has an advanced menu with some options like MUX control and then a Tuning menu with Overclocking / CPU / Memory options. By default a -125mv undervolt was applied to the 13900HX P-cores.

Windows Support

My initial OS I am testing on it is Windows 10 22H2. After it booted into the OS most drivers were able to install other than the Realtek Audio + Nahemic drivers. Unfortunately Eluktronics told me that their Microsoft agreement only allows them to support Windows 11 on these models. They also mentioned a WIM Windows 11 image is available for customers who purchased a barebones config to simply getting their system up and running.

Linux Support

I have Fedora 37 installed. These are the steps I took:

1. Boot Live USB with nouveau.modeset=0 parameter to disable the open source nvidia driver
2. After install, go into bios and set Fedora grub EFI entry as active, also ensure Secure Boot is disabled
3. Download updates via Software Center, reboot
4. Switch default session from Wayland to Xorg, reboot
5. Install akmod-nvidia from rpmfusion, reboot

As far as compatibility goes everything seems to be working fine so far. The speakers are quieter than in Windows with Nahemic but are usable. Probably the HDAudio pin config is not enabling the amp yet as the mappings likely have changed since the last revision (SB Cinema -> Nahemic).

In this configuration the internal display only supports 2560x1600 without scaling from xrandr. Nvidia Settings can apply a scaled resolution but this doesn't always work well in the multi-monitor configuration I use. 60hz and 240hz is supported. In theory switching the MUX to Hybrid mode should allow decent battery life at 60hz as the software configuration should allow the Nvidia card to enter runtime D3. The nvidia power daemon (dynamic boost manager) is likely buggy and will randomly cause high CPU usage. I would leave it disabled unless you are gaming or doing something where you need beyond the base 150W. I will try to run a Linux GPU benchmark soon.

Booting Windows 10 via GRUB for some reason is causing performance of the 4090 GPU to be limited. So for now if I boot into Windows I must use F7 and select the "Windows Boot Manager" option instead of the Fedora entry.

Performance

CBR23 in Beast Mode - ~31500, 120W
CBR23 in Balanced Mode - ~25800, 75W
TimeSpy in Beast Mode -  21021 Overall, 21790 Graphics, 17521 CPU (Control Center installed, Nvidia 528.49, Auto Fans, 175W pull observed)

Fan Noise

So far it has been pretty good. No high pitched whining and the fans do not have an issue with pulsing at idle or low usage with the default curve.

Overall Initial Impressions

Its a nice machine. The fan noise and build quality great. I will add more as I can think about it.

New oasis unit. Both have mechanical per key rgb.

https://www.xmg.gg/en/news-new-product-xmg-neo-e23/

This might eb an unfortunate for you or not. But the pipe has slightly changed 

Amd has 6900hx standard while Intel has 12900H standard.

Both Support Lpp. 
Intel version standard price is $2600 Amd version is $2500

Both support LPP.

No pre-order. It's buyable now.

I bought it with an Intel i7 11800H, 32GB of DDR4-3200, an RTX 3080 16GB, and a 1TB NVME drive. It's definitely a good system out of the box, but I did make some small changes.

Namely, I upgraded the ram to 64GB, and added an additional 2TB NVME drive, and seems to be running well.

Windows 10 Pro is what this system came with, but I opted for running LTSC (and have used 11 to an extent), and it seems to run fairly well; the temps are definitely something I could really want cooler, but I do keep this in dGPU mode. Temps tend to stay within 80-90C on the CPU, not the most ideal, but that's usually under load. GPU temps are something I haven't gotten around to monitoring, but I'll probably modify this when I do get around to it at some point.

Since this is a rebadged Tongfang chassis, usually someone like Eluktronics or Maingear tend to have their own control centers to modify things; this is something they usually do within their own design. Maingear's control center doesn't seem to work on Windows 11 currently, but I haven't tested it since I initially bought this laptop back in November, so I can't say.

What I can say, though, is that Eluktronics' control center seems to work well on this system (which shipped as Maingear to me) and has a bit more configurability; Maingear seems to cap the GPU's wattage at 150W, when Eluktronics does allow the GPU to hit it's actual cap at 165W, which is where I prefer to keep it at.

I haven't done much with undervolting, but it seems that -70mv seems to do the trick using Throttlestop, and it does help the temps a bit, but I do need to experiment more with it to find a good UV for it. For now, this seems to do the trick.

Linux compatibility seems to be okay on this; I did run an Arch install using i3 for some time, and it seemed that it auto-detected everything out of the box, asides from the GPU (nvidia-proprietary is kind of a must). I haven't done much in Linux with this, but that's something I'll mess with in the coming weeks.

I imagine that doing some proper undervolt experimentation (including maybe on the GPU) might be in order to help the temps, as this runs warmer than I'd probably prefer, but it's to be expected since this system is primarily for gaming.

I'm not usually one to opt for Intel, but the gen 4 speeds on the first NVME slot as well as having Thunderbolt 4 in this were honestly something I were happy to have. I paid about $2500 USD for the system's base model, but the upgrades costed a lot more.

I'm hoping to do some more Linux tinkering with this, and maybe try to fine tune the temps (and maybe repaste the CPU/GPU sometime soon) so I can maybe get this into a place where I'm happy.

For my first full-time laptop system due to moving to Europe recently, I'm pretty happy with it overall. My only gripe is fan noise, but it's not usually too much of an issue.

If anyone else happens to own this same model with similar CPU/GPU, I'd appreciate some suggestions on undervolts at some point.

This thing is thin, strong, and makes for a good 1440p/165hz gaming machine and productivity system. I figure I'd post given nobody had posted anything about a Tongfang system yet.

https://www.eluktronics.com/lpp

Pre-orders start in March.

I'm looking at getting a new laptop, hopefully soon. Top of my list is a Lenovo Legion with the 16:10 screen. Sadly, you can't find one in Canada for under $2k so I'm looking at other options

I have found a couple of "used - like new" laptops on Eluktronics site, but I'm not familiar with the brand. Can anybody comment on the brand?

Second, both the machines are Ryzen 4xxx (I don't remember which one specifically) processors. I haven't been following Ryzen at all, so is it worth looking into the older CPUs like this?