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yeah, but it still has no Mux, right? So battery runtime with the RTX5050 will be worse. I'm pretty sure it's possible to retrofit the 90wh battery to any pro model. Screws look identical. I wonder if the 77wh battery just has more reserve cells (and worse batches) for better longevity or is actually different. For the case I mean min 4:22 to 4:23 - that is quite different from the old models. At 5:11 it's very visble too.
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I'm pretty sure it's testing once an oled version with X7! And an ultra7 IPS Version in comparison. In some places there is comparison with the old 255h with Nvidia 5050, the X7 seems to beat 4050 Nvidia but Cannot keep up with 5050.
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Yeah we certainly will not get as much choice as Koreans. I guess they will put the best sellers from Korea on intl market if the processors are available. I guess X7 will be more about availability Vs want. I don't think 2025 with Aerominum exist, the feeling is very different. But you can easily tell on the edge of the screen. Is it aluminium there or magnesium? The new model has an aluminium strip there. But yeah it's likely possible to just upgrade any old pro and change to the new Aerominum by waiting till the case shows up as replacement. I think the pro has been stiffer Vs non pro. But it's again a pretty major increase in battery life, much more performance Vs any previous gram in case of the x7 (all others much less) and GPU performance for the X7 only that rivals the previous dedicated models... But yeah apart from the X7 model the changes are much smaller.
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Seems Intel has really hit it out of the park with Panther lake X7 - it's like 20-70% faster than last years arrow lake, while neeeding less power than last years Lunar lake - or is the new OLED screen so efficient? The quoted battey life went up to 27 hours (Intel Oled X7 or AMD 2026 with inbuilt graphics ) vs last years 25.5 for the IPS or I think 18.5 hours for the Oled Arrow lake. The 2026 Ultra 5 IPS is even quoted at 29.5 hours of battery life but no price known yet. He quotes that the new case is 35% stiffer. Well any reviews say that the new case really feels premium unlike the plasticky feel of the old magnesium ones. Comparing it with the AMD numbers - Panther lake really seems like the much better choice. AMD seemingly is only slightly better than last year Lunar lake, but actually uses less power than Lunar lake so gets a little better battery life too. I do feel this one is the biggest update since 2021. Well last year Lunar lake/arrow lake was a big update over the rather unsuccesful 12-14.th gen Intel, but this time changes are even bigger if going for Intel. AMD likely 10-20% cheaper however - the basic Ultra 5 IPS pricing isn't announced yet - but the cheapest OLED Ultra 5 Intel vs cheapest AMD with IPS is 20% cheaper (or pay up 25%) But yeah so far I haven't really seen a test of the Ultra 5 anywhere - maybe it's rather Lunar lake performance - seing the architecture is quite similar. Seems like 16Z90U-KU7BK is the best deal right now... X7 with 32GB RAM, and not much more money than the cheapest Ultra 5. There will not be an X7 IPS model in 16". (and Ultra 7 over Ultra 5 won't be any advantage as usual). So if you want the highest performance by a good stretch with great battery life - it's OLED only.
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Well you could set time for pl2 to unlimited...
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I'll not write more about it as it's off topic, but the club of Rome B scenario of doubled resources got conventional oil sources right. Didn't get shale oil and tar sands but they are only short term fix... Copper and silver however we are actually right now approaching the limits of what is fiscally worthy to extract and the "green revolution" is bollocks as the copper and silver is too expensive so it won't happen. Also right now on oil we have an EROI of 12-13%, in 1970 it was 2%. And that's aggregate. New sources are worse while old are better. Once this reaches 30-40% it's game over and won't make sense anymore. We always extract easiest resources first, harder later or never. We are right now reaching the point where whatever replacement gets more difficult or needing more energy to extract arrives just as conventional oil is now on fixed decline. Actually oil extraction will still increase in 2026, maybe even 2027 but thats likely the final time. Prices are too low right now for significant further investment. And we haven't got any suitable replacement seing other resources also getting harder to get. We simply cannot afford expensive oil. World politics right now realises scarcity and US and China try to get resources into their realm, but that doesn't mean they realise what happens when we relatively run out of everything as energy to extract more gets more expensive right at the same time as those resources need significantly more energy to extract. Pollution getting worse, clean drinkable water less per capita. Quality sand running out, and so on... We have some good years left, maybe until 2030, but our financial system built on infinite growth may already collapse before as it needs growth to survive, that's why gold right now is rising and will continue to do so (except if we use it as silver replacement which doesn't make sense we would have way too much - the price is only justified by it's financial mean of money that doesn't inflate, unlike silver which gets used up more than extracted)... We can replace any single component with energy (also pollution), but doing so for everything that gets more rare is impossible. Also club of Rome back then in 1970 calculated an infinite resources scenario which didn't turn out better in the long run, collapse was simply later but therefore harder.. We are right on track with a 3x resources scenario and hitting more or less any marks the model back then predicted.
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Can you not change the power limits in advanced bios anymore or with throttlestop?
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It the AI bubble bursts everything is gonna burst. It's the last thing keeping our financial system from capsizing.. and it could coincide with many states or supra states like EU stopping to exist... I just had the 2025 - 13th gen 16 inch in my hands and open up and I really didn't feel much of a change at all... So far Lunar lake 16" are still very expensive while the basic 17" have come down quite a lot but still haven't seen one below 1199 Euro including Vat inside Europe... I wonder if we even get down to 1000 Euro this time on lunar lake models. Previous LG gram always went down to 700-800 Euro, sometimes 600 (like the 2025 - 13. Gen Intel model). It won't make sense for me to replace the battery a second time on my 2021 so I have about 6-7 months left to wait for prices to come down.
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The prices will increase by 50% right? That's what I understood from the Korean video.. this is basically the first time since many years that they changed the laptop and not only some small improvements... Last year was Lunar lake/arrow lake which was a huge improvement, this year it's the rest. Speakers are much bigger too. Sad thing is the price will be outrageous at least for Intel models. I think the non pro sticks with old magnesium chassis right?
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Remember it's only full HD display. That saves a lot of GPU/CPU power of higher resolution. Also video playback is something Intel long dialled. Surfing the internet while using keyboard and touchpad and so on is far more demanding.. In tests lunar lake clearly bet arrow lake in this regard. But arrow lake has more multi core power.
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I need more battery life. Arrow lake has loads of power but isn't good on idle/low power stuff just like surfing the net or writing documents. Yes arrow lake is already pretty good under high load and a step up. 11-13. Gen were basically identical just more power for more heat... So far sadly haven't seen a 16" below 1300 euros and a 17 below 1200 euros.. Yeah many components not only ram are increasing in price. It it's again supposed to hold 5 years with a single battery replacement I need the Lunar lake. I guess panther will be fine too, but cannot justify the prices. By now I'm actually just waiting for a 32GB ram model to get below 1200 Euros. World is running out of resources be it oil or metals like silver and copper. I fear this is gonna be the last laptop I buy in my life as modernity will collapse around 2030 I expect. I wonder if the 2026 oled models are already having the new subpixel layout that improves text rendering a lot. LG announced them a month ago or so, but I don't remember which resolutions were gonna come first. That would be a big step up for Oled.
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Yep right now buying anything else by intel if not at a steep discount really doesn't make sense. If you need a lot of power, it's still AMD, If great battery life then lunar lake.. AMD in theory could still be better about battery life, but Intel simply still has the better ecosystem around the processor so lunar lake effectively edges out most similar AMD models. I'll get an LG gram once prices in offers for a lunar lake are around 900-950 Euros. Or maybe go for something similar by Asus and by it straight in Taiwan where prices are better in general just not for the grams.
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You found them with oled? 16Z90RU-G.AA55G For example is just the 2023 model with a new name, it sold for 700 euros so it's a good deal for people not needing something new or with great battery life. 100% they just dug out old stock maybe reserved for warranty or whatever. If battery life is important need actual 2025 model. The battery life went downhill from 2022 and onwards Vs 2021 as intel didn't get it done. Finally at tsmc things improved!
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lg Gram - Durability long term - Paint and screen (16Z90P)
extremecarver replied to extremecarver's topic in LG
Take the cap off and put it back on for those keys. But basically after trying that a couple of times and getting it back to work for a few weeks it means exchanging the keyboard which is isn't easy as you can read on the previous page. I think it's just the life over of the switches. E will be the most likely to break due to heaviest use in most western languages -
lg Gram - Durability long term - Paint and screen (16Z90P)
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It's slowly getting time for replacement - the next default: my top USB-C port isn't charging anymore. The case is slowly warping more as well (the lower part as the upper part is still quite new)... But I'm pretty confident it will survive 5-6 more months until replacement with the current Gen at affordable price. Battery on the other hand has recovered a bit again at 172 full cylcles back to 68.000mWh.. Looking like it will make it to 5 years (well with exchanged keyboard and exchanged battery and exchanged fan). I also feel like the overall brightness isn't where it was when it was new. I usually need to run it now at 90-100% instead of 80% when it was new during the day.