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Yep right now buying anything else by intel if not at a steep discount really doesn't make sense. If you need a lot of power, it's still AMD, If great battery life then lunar lake.. AMD in theory could still be better about battery life, but Intel simply still has the better ecosystem around the processor so lunar lake effectively edges out most similar AMD models. I'll get an LG gram once prices in offers for a lunar lake are around 900-950 Euros. Or maybe go for something similar by Asus and by it straight in Taiwan where prices are better in general just not for the grams.

You found them with oled? 16Z90RU-G.AA55G For example is just the 2023 model with a new name, it sold for 700 euros so it's a good deal for people not needing something new or with great battery life. 100% they just dug out old stock maybe reserved for warranty or whatever. If battery life is important need actual 2025 model. The battery life went downhill from 2022 and onwards Vs 2021 as intel didn't get it done. Finally at tsmc things improved!

Take the cap off and put it back on for those keys. But basically after trying that a couple of times and getting it back to work for a few weeks it means exchanging the keyboard which is isn't easy as you can read on the previous page. I think it's just the life over of the switches. E will be the most likely to break due to heaviest use in most western languages

It's slowly getting time for replacement - the next default: my top USB-C port isn't charging anymore. The case is slowly warping more as well (the lower part as the upper part is still quite new)... But I'm pretty confident it will survive 5-6 more months until replacement with the current Gen at affordable price. Battery on the other hand has recovered a bit again at 172 full cylcles back to 68.000mWh.. Looking like it will make it to 5 years (well with exchanged keyboard and exchanged battery and exchanged fan). I also feel like the overall brightness isn't where it was when it was new. I usually need to run it now at 90-100% instead of 80% when it was new during the day.

Too small battery, too low resolution, bad keyboard.... It's not really an alternative. My gram is showing its age more and more. Casing kinda would need replacement, USB-C ports getting unreliable, and so on. But gonna wait for sub 1000 Euro pricing on lunar lake gram... Still no other laptop of mine ever survived more than 4 years (had 4 years exactly on Lenovo t440s and around 4 years once on a Dell latitude, now my gram is 4 years 4 months). I do wonder neither Dell not Lenovo try a clone. Samsung has a pretty similar model however. It's a bit more suited to home Vs business use however.

The new battery is dropping fast - now at 147 cycles it's already down to 66.000mWh, the original one I exchanged at 60.000 or so. Seems the main problem is simply aging and even if getting a new original battery as they were produced long time ago - it's a disaster. I found out that Windows 11 completely reset any battery related settings in the registry, so after redoing them battery life got better again, but yeah it's still inferior to Windows 10. Well I guess one more year on the Gram then I will upgrade to a new one. LG from time to time really dumps the old ones at cheap prices.

Updating to Windows 11 I had to notice that nearly all registry settings concerning power saving had been reset and battery life was really really poor. Even worse plugged in it idled at around 11w. Redid all settings and uninstalled all the AI, copilot and whatever stuff plus disabled again loads of windows services I'm down to idling at 3w package power plugged in and the old 0.8w on battery (had been up to 3-4w). The problem is my 11th gen intel doesn't go into lower than C3 if an external monitor is connected/lan is connected via usb-c... With poor coling this really stresses the battery... But whatever I do - Windows 11 is a slouch vs 10. I have a very potent server that now needs 20% more time on an intel 13th gen CPU all else equal vs on Windows 10 on the same tasks. The supposedly improved big/little workload has gone down the hill (with 10 I could manually set tasks to either big or little cores and this doesn't work reliably anymore under 11... Too bad 10 is reaching EOL.

hmm no, 11 stays a piece of shit. My battery life is way worse and not improving. However it's even worse on a compile server I use. That one runs on Intel 13500 CPU, and the main compilation task now runs for 36 hours instead of 25 hours using Bills Process Manager to kinda make sure parallized tasks get moved to big cores for priority, and small cores for unimportant stuff and OS. Under Windows 11 that doesn't work well at all, but the default scheduler is still much worse then the Windows 10 default scheduler. On windows 10 it ran for 28 hours with default scheduler, vs 32 hours on 11. What a piece of trash. I already debloated a lot but I can see that 11 just messes around loads. And yeah antivirus is deactivated on both 10 and 11, because with antivirus active I can add another couple of hours... (compiling stuff with java and packing with 7zip). That speed is just disastrous. I have sadly some things that don't run under Linux, but on Linux the main part of the compilation was like 21 hours only... Problem is - I don't want to be left out on security updates - so there is no way to stay on 10. But for my use cases 11 clearly is rubbish compared to 10. Both on my server as well as on my laptop. The irony of this was that 11 was supposed to work better with little.big cores, but clearly it doesn't and it seems to even interfere with bills process manager that simply can be set up smarter than the automatic windows scheduler. And yeah that scheduler improved somehow, but the additional bloat just cannot be avoided. And yeah I didn't invest much time into debloating 11 yet, and did so considerably for 10. However I updated which should mean most settings stay the same. If I didn't have some software that I need to use that runs on windows only, I would long be Ubuntu only. It's just faster, no thinking about bloat, and way more stable (yeah BSOD are very rare now on windows, some small hiccups and problems quite common however). So the new lg grams must have improved quite a bit if they manage good battery life under 11. I'm pretty sure however AMD is not far behind or same level as Intel. AMD caught up on problems like wifi, bluetooth and so on just being more efficient vs Intel - while Intel still packages themselves instead of full TSMC production (which I'm sure is still better). So intel likely still is a tiny bit better on firmware vs AMD when it comes to low load / idle. I would not want to have an ARM based laptop, as there is again loads of legacy software I need often. Without that I think Gram would be no option for me as I would chose a snapdragon laptop...Since 1 year they really do work well for general use cases (not quite Apple level however - but I cannot work from prison so apple is a nogo for me.

Yeah hard to say where it would end up with IPS. I'm not sure how good the current OLEDs are for text. I kinda would like IPS Black 2.0 technology. That's by LG and how comes they don't use it on their LG gram? It's absolutely the best for 27/32 office displays. Doubling to Trippling the contrast does a lot. Actually I just upgraded my old lg gram to windows 11 , and clearly battery life suffered a lot. It just uses more and I tried already quite some optimization to little help. But yeah there is no help but to upgrade to 11 as 10 support is running out. 11 really is a PITA and I see no single improvement yet...

Well the Lunar lake version looks like a perfect upgrade for me once it is sold for 1000 euros or so. Until then my 2021 will survive. This is actually the first LG gram to match the battery lifetime of the 2021 version, which isn't surprising as it was all the same intel node 2021-2024 and intel added more power being pressured by AMD. Arrow lake loses how much Vs lunar lake on battery life? I guess it's still second best for Intel and only slightly worse than Lunar lake? It's really hard to find same laptop with both processors to compare. Tsmc simply is a huge step forward. I'm sure in real life the battery life is even more ahead Vs the Notebookcheck numbers on wlan testing. And it makes sense to go with IPS for Lunar lake and oled for arrow lake. Actually I think the Lunar lake gram is the first one since a decade to actually beat the MacBook. Macbook still has best display for a laptop imho. It's a shame LG or others don't manage to source microled panels.

The thing is that this is very likely no contact problem. Not gonna invest much I to it. By now the new keyboard and front assembly got a big crack, likely from strapping the laptop with high force inside a duffel bag onto a mule. Kinda snapped. 3-4cm long on the front and through the hole side and some mm on the back. Also one of the 4 main screws Holding the laptop together in the lower right corner the fixation where the screw screws into broke into pieces.. but yeah that's all cosmetic and laptop still going strong... I do think I won't replace it before March 2026 when I will buy a lunar lake gram or similar to replace it. 5 years will be a new record for me to keep a laptop. Yeah the ThinkPad Ts series was more sturdy but the gram is overall better for me.

It's not only about idle but much more about small workloads like surfing where it really matters

I'm pretty sure with lunar lake battery runtime will be 50-80% longer. With arrow lake 40-50% longer. They should be really way better especially on low load.

I don't get why you didn't wait another couple of months and then get an lunar or arrow lake version. Imho processor wise intel hasn't improved from 2021 to 2024 and now it's really a huge step up again. Well for me at least battery life is always the number 1 priority on a laptop, and therefore I'm really looking forward to Lunar lake lg gram. Yeah cutting 4k video is stretching it on the 2021. But besides that I just use a server to do whatever is needed that really needs computing power. Cannot be bothered to keep a desktop for those things. I'm in Taiwan right now and the 2025 have already hit the shelves.

I paid 120 Euros or so for a new battery by the official lg retailer in Austria. It came degraded though with 76wh instead of 80wh specified. I guess due to lying around for a couple of years.