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Killer issues were probably something in my environment. I just went back to it from the realtek dongle and it's ok now. Likely solved by a driver update over the past 6 months.🤞¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll probably stick with Titan if Clevo reviews are bad. I like to have Raid0 plus a backup drive. Probably won't do anything til the new year. Intel is pretty thoroughly humbled. Are we seeing signs of a merger with Amd? Not sure what Qualcomm would do with them, sounds like Compaq eating Dec, only to be gobbled by Dell.

Not sure there's any machine I trust too much on wake from sleep... Crossing my fingers Clevo will be buyable with the new low power stuff. 🥂🤞

Looks like I'm getting 2 years added to my sentence, i mean career... 😜🤓 So i'll probably be getting another dtr in the not too distant future. Are you happy with the Amd? Anybody know the state of play for Intel's neverending woes?

Personally, my free time is for Tai Chi. If I work on an antique, it will be a classic sports car, not writing drivers for an old os. Y'all may want to consider loading a classic os in a vm. I still have Xp vms for running ancient software. You probably need VmWare to load a classic os, not sure if Msft vm will allow it. You'll need Msdn (no escape...) to get the old os images. Curiously, they have 3.11 and Xp but no 2000. 😢 🥂

thx. i'll just let windows take care of itself til it makes me intervene to fix something.

Haven't looked. "Tiny" sounds like it's worth looking into. I want path of least resistance, latest os is simplest.

Sympathetic as i am to these sentiments, they add security when they add bloat. Eventually they fix the stuff they broke and regain speed they lost. I'm tempted to try Tiny11 but the last thing i want to do is play with computers after working on them all day.

So Webroot wasn't to blame for everything, though some weirdness in Visual Studio cleared up with it gone. After removing it, i turned off daily reboots to see if it solved the issue on the Clevo machines. They still eventually slowed to a crawl after a day to 2 weeks. I probably had coincidental issues with Windows bogging down and the firmware update on the mobile cpu machine. I've currently got all of them on oem video drivers with Ge Force Experience uninstalled. The one that does my wake-up alarm playlist still does the daily reboot, the others aren't bad enough to be worse than a minor annoyance. Ain't Windows wonderful?...

No...

Chrome wouldn't run on x170 when I first got it, so I switched to Edge. I like it well enough. Firefox always struck me as a little clunky but i routinely have to use all 3 to fix something that works in one but not another.

Well, something about enabling overclocking and setting back to optimized default appears to have restored its baseline performance. 🤞¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah i don't load Msi stuff, just Outlook and Sql Server. All the behavior i've seen makes me think Msft imposed some arbitrary threshold. Just my gut...

Undervolt is slightly slower. Otherwise behavior is the same, performance is ok for a few minutes after boot if startup programs don't load. After loading them, it slows down dramatically, but only for unzipping huge files. Probably would be the same for other sustained heavy use. I went back to optimized defaults with high performance.

I didn't see anything in bios, that's why i asked Msi. I'll check the video. thx