Talon

I ran out of time to really compare to the two rigs. My 9800X3D remained my secondary system in my living room. Currently it's paired with an Intel B580 lol. It was getting a bit cocky and I had to put something blue in the cage to keep it humble. But honestly ran out of time with work to really compare with my 4090. I sold the 4090, and my 4070 Super is in my main rig as is my 285K. Honestly all complains or early teething issues with ARL for me are gone. The platform is just rock solid. Early on there were these random slow downs, or hangs in the OS. I'm not sure if that was 24H2 being trouble or if it was ARL microcode. Either way, the system just flies now. I'll do more testing when/if I get my 5090.

Absolutely not tuned at all. Running 8600 XMP is not tuned, it's just running stock with an XMP kit. This guy is actually a moron and claiming he did any type of tune. You can see he left the NGU/D2D and cache all stock. Then claiming he tried to "overclock" to 5.4Ghz P core all core. Dude 5.4Ghz is STOCK all core for P-cores. This dude is a literal idiot that is spreading more misinformation. At this point I'm not even convinced this level of misinformation isn't malicious. Tuning Arrow Lake takes about 2 minutes in the BIOS. You set 32x on D2D and NGU. Set 41x cache. Set 48-50x E Cores sync'd. Leave P Cores auto. Set XMP or XMP Tweaked. Save and reset. A decent tune is 68-71ns latency depending on which board you have since 2dimm boards have lower latency natively due to the physical distance. He's showing 85ns which is absolute trash and destroys gaming perf.

Nevermind, they are over 50 deep, holy ****. Unreal lol. Ya I'll just be sitting home and trying my luck against the bots.

I've been keeping an eye on the Microcenter lines, I'm off but I'm not going over there 2 days early to line up. Those people at my local MC are already 15 or more deep at this point. That is wild and I'm not doing that. I'll head over the in the morning and try and get a card, but honestly I'm not even sure that is worth it. It sounds like the 5090 is pretty limited, and everyone in line is gunning for 5090. This might be the first time in a long time I don't get a card on or around launch day. That is fine, I'm more than happy running this 4070 Super until I can get either an Astral, TUF or FE, possibly a SuprimX.

I ordered one for my 5090. Not taking any chances this gen.

About exactly what I expected. Man I'm glad I moved that 4090 for $1500.

RTX 4090 sold last week for $1500. Rocking the 4070 Super until RTX 5090 beast. AMD's GPUs are so boring now they didn't even mention them during the keynote lol.

I guess it's entirely possible the kit is just running in bypass mode and not able to use the CKD chip. But yea I agree, they need to include a latency/throughput test.

More importantly that is CKD CUDIMM memory kit on AM5.

Also thinking about running my 4070 Super and selling my 4090 Strix today. I've got multiple offers at $1500 local cash, and I think I'm going to take it. I don't need a 5090, but I know myself, and I know I'll do foolish things. I feel that's pretty fair value given I've used it over 2 years.

I picked up the Intel B580 Limited Edition from Newegg, traded in an old RTX 2060 KO to Newegg (they gave me $104 for it) and the Intel GPU is awesome. Incredible value card for $249, well actually only $145 after the trade in. And they through in a free game and 6 months of Ubisoft+.

https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid_77e3607cb53d4f128d156fb9ceb6dae5 My 9800X3D with a lowly 4070 Super. While mostly CPU limited, there are times where I can see a 4090 would help. Maybe this week I'll find time to swap GPUs for a few runs. Currently #4 spot with this GPU though.

That memory performance you've squeezed out of that kit and board look incredible. Nice job!

Finally got my 2x32gb A-Die set stable. I actually ordered an EXPO 2x32gb set on Amazon, and they arrived, M-Die lol nope. Back they went without even opening the box. I went to MC and as they said they had 3x in stock, I got there and nothing, the guy checked everywhere for them. Defeated I came home and decided to just manually set the timings myself and viola, they finally worked, much better latency and I can run 6200 1:1. I have no yet attempted 6400 but will try that next. Honestly so far I am very, very happy with my jump. I love having both brands now. It's awesome. If AMD drops a 9950x3D with both CCX being 3D-Vcache, I'll be getting that. My wallet has been very upset with me lately lol. Especially after I picked up the brand new Noctua Gen 2 140mm fans. They finally released them and I am upgrading all of my terrible 140mm fans with these bad boys. Unfortunately for me, they're not cheap fans.

Thanks bro, I think I’ll try out my TG 2x24gb kit tomorrow.