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C'mon!, only shipments to the States!. This is the third one I see with shipments only the States. What a nightmare...

I think 1610ftw is talking about if Nvidia or Amd would sell their Mxm graphic cards for laptops as they do on desktops, and the people would be able to just buy a new graphic card, insert it their motherboard gpu socket and get it working. But nvidia killed the mxm format (so, soldered to motherboard), and ever worse, all that mxm overpriced cards are constrained by vBios to the brands they're produced for. You can't simply grab an mxm card from Alienware and put it inside a Clevo machine. So, a little bit apple-like way for every laptop. It's upgradable, yes, but buying it to your brand by the price they say, absolutely constrained. Still no idea what I'm gonna do. I don't want support this 2023 powerful-thin-thermal throttling generation, deny to buy desktop, refuse to buy Clevo x170 at their original price now after 2 gens. I'm blocked. And the time to start working with Unreal Engine 5 & raytracing is now.

After more than ten years enjoying big Clevo flagship laptops, I'm absolutely used to a laptop. Is winter? great!, Il'l move my laptop to livingroom where we have the fireplace, I can share that moments with family and friends, and maybe I'm tunning materiales in Unreal or modelling in Maya (what I can't do is programming with people around). Is summer? great, my little children want to go to the inflatable pool, no problem, grab my laptop, put in under my... umbrella? sun-umbrella?, and keep working while watching them to make myself sure they're ok. I abhor desktop. Absolutely. Everybody tells me, do you work with 3d?, you need a desktop!, yes portable desktop as the X170, no other thing. So, why the best we have is.. "that", x370, absolutely impostor (for not talk about x270 which is directly a shame). I really hope things change for Rocket Lake and at least Clevo, don't forget about us, because I absolutely refuse to use a desktop in a wonerdul prison-room as I did in the past.

What can I say... "Impostor", I love it, I consider it baptismed. I can understand people complains about weight, even about battery lasting, but they don't realize this kind of machines are not for them, not are designed for "take notes" over the whole morning draining slowly the battery. Personally, put in my backpack and go anywhere. (But I don't usually travel by plane, don't know about weight constraints!) Which is a bit more difficult for me to understand, is about Clevo forgetting about their customers that really are looking for a big heavy machine able to offer all the power that components can offer without lose performance thanks to a heavy reliable cooling system, something to work on 3d, Maya, 3dsMax, Blender, Vray, MaxwellRender, or even Unreal Engine 5 constantly, all over the whole day without failures, like a solid rock. Clevo X170 was designed for socket 1200, including 10nth and 11nth Intel generations, and then, for socket 1700 with 12nth and 13nth gens they choose to move to other model... but lack from a "beast model" for this two gens... Without Mxm versions of Gpus, Clevo X170 missed 30xx Tis, and the same for 40xx. So, Clevo are not able to create their own Mxm versions? they need the nvidia permit? I don't know... Should we expect for 14nth Intel gen, so new socket + rtx 40xxTis a new "beast model" (able to deal with heat to not have thermal throttling)?. I don't know. But although... I should be a bad person for this... I expect all this powerful-thin machines for this 2023 start to failure and get burned over all this year, and everybody learn the lesson about powerful-heavy cooled machines, or middlePowerful-thin machines, but not powerful&thin. All I know is, I refuse to acquire X370sn (And I NEED something). Not even tongfangs water cooled. It looks great, but... If I'm paying for a laptop, is a laptop and no more. Laptop + Waterpump is not exactly laptop, for not to talk about have some liquid in a backpack inside a computer. I prefer of course 32 threads of Raptor Lake, but not if it will last 2 years, for that, I go with X170 and 10nth gen with 20 cores. Big brick Im sorry, just sharing my thoughts and trying to constrast how much I'm wrong in the opinion from others that understand why x370 is not a flagship in any way. Clevo 7200, p170hm, p170em, Clevo 775, Clevo P870 and this last Clevo X170. THAT was flagships, that is what I expect from the Clevo flagship.

What's up guys, new in the forum, Clevo biased customer, currently dreaming with grab a x170 with a good price (since the machine haves 2 years old), unable to trust in the powerful+thin combo (it only can finish in burning components, broken laptop). So, I have a question for you: What do you think about the new Clevo x370sn? Here the only video I've found about: