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  1. Release date: June 15, 2021 11th gen (Tiger Lake) CPUs NVIDIA Ampere GPUs, up to NVIDIA RTX A5000 (similar to GeForce 3080, mobile version) Up to 128 GB RAM (ECC support with Xeon CPU) One PCIe4 NVMe slot Driver RSS feeds: Precision 7760 • Precision 7560 Legacy NBR 7X60 owner's thread You can order Precision 7X60 with GeForce RTX 3080 GPU (might support 110W in Precision 7560?) (part numbers) Solving "disappearing drive issue" by keeping the PCIe4 drive slot switch pressed down Display panel and cable part numbers
  2. Note — I am personally not recommending upgrades to Windows 11 at this time. I have some issues with how Microsoft is handling things which I will discuss in a future post. However, if you would like to upgrade then I will still do my best to offer support. The purpose of this thread is to discuss what is needed to get Windows 11 running on Precision mobile workstations, with an emphasis on systems released before 2018, which Microsoft is not officially supporting. Windows 11 was released on October 5, 2021. The launch is starting with new PCs releasing late in the year. Existing PCs won't be offered the upgrade through Windows Update right away; they will start offering it to new PCs only and broaden eligibility gradually through mid-2022. "Go-getters" are able to go and download the install media and perform an upgrade on their own at any time after the official launch. Windows 11 is a free upgrade over Windows 10, it is accepting old Windows product keys for activation going all the way back to Windows 7. Microsoft has posted system requirements for Windows 11. Most systems will easily meet these requirements, but there are two big ones which will be trouble for many users: * A "compatible 64-bit processor" means anything older than Intel's 8th generation is not supported. (Microsoft is supporting select 7th-gen CPUs on systems with all-DCH drivers, but that is not the case on Precision systems of that era.) * Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0. (You can check your TPM version by looking in Device Manager under "Security devices".) Which Precision mobile workstations are supported? Dell Precision workstations released in 2018 or later have 8th generation CPUs. That is Precision 3530, 5530, 7530, and 7730. These systems also have TPM 2.0. These models and any successor models should meet the requirements for Windows 11 easily. Dell has posted their own supported model list which aligns with this. https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/...ed-for-upgrade-to-windows-11#Precision-DT-W11 What about systems that do not meet the requirements? Microsoft would recommend that you do not attempt to install Windows 11 and stick with Windows 10, which will still receive security updates until October 14, 2025. CPU requirement There is no option to upgrade a system from an unsupported CPU to a supported CPU. A motherboard swap would be required, and while some systems can be upgraded one generation if the chassis is compatible, the first 8th-generation system (Precision 7X30) came with a chassis refresh. TPM requirement Precision XX10 and XX20 systems (2015-2017 release years) qualify for the TPM 2.0 firmware update. Older systems have TPM 1.2, going all of the way back to the Precision M65 (released in 2005). Microsoft previously noted in the requirements that the TPM 2.0 requirement is a "soft floor" and TPM 1.2 is the "hard floor"; however, this note has been removed. Validity of the system requirements This is my personal opinion here... You can take these requirements and throw them in the trash. Nearly all systems that can run Windows 10 will be able to run Windows 11 without issue. Microsoft posted a clarification on the requirements and the reason for setting the bar high for CPU and TPM support is for security, not for performance. They are also preferring newer systems which have DCH drivers for "reliability" reasons. At present, the TPM requirement has a trivial workaround and the CPU requirement is not enforced at all. I've been reading reports on users who have upgraded old systems and I haven't seen any major issues popping up. Systems with older CPUs or without TPM support will miss out on some security features (...which is already the case with Windows 10) but should otherwise be fully functional. Of course, these systems will remain "unsupported" by Microsoft, so there could be issues yet to be discovered that will go unfixed, or new issues that pop up later. So it's basically a "try it at your own risk" situation, but I think that the risk is pretty low. How to install or upgrade to Windows 11 Systems that meet the system requirements The preferred approach according to Microsoft would be to wait until Windows 11 is offered to your system via Windows Update, and upgrade at that time. However, you can upgrade early by downloading the installation media (ISO) and using that. Installation media can be downloaded here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 Systems that do not meet the system requirements These systems will not see the Windows 11 upgrade offer through Windows Update, but upgrading using the installation media (ISO) is still possible. The installer will put up a warning about the system being unsupported that you must click through. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 One thing mentioned in the warning is that unsupported systems may not be "entitled to updates". We'll find out on October 12 if the regular monthly cumulative patch is offered to systems with unsupported CPUs or not. I personally suspect that such unsupported systems will get monthly cumulative patches automatically, but not feature upgrades — those will have to be installed manually. Feature upgrades will be released yearly, in the fall. The installer will enforce TPM and Secure Boot requirements. TPM 1.2 seems to be accepted, so all Precision systems from the past 15+ years should be good there; just go enable it in the BIOS if necessary. Secure Boot is available on Precision systems released in 2012 and later (with Intel 3rd-gen CPU or better). You can bypass the compatibility checks if you need to. Microsoft has some documentation on it: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...ndows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e [Edit] Update 2022-05-17 It looks like Microsoft is making the TPM requirement more strict with Windows 11 version 22H2 (launching fall 2022). The bypass that they have previously documented does not work. Users who have upgraded systems that "do not meet the system requirements" may have to jump through hoops to upgrade to Windows 11 version 22H2 beyond just sticking a registry setting in and running the upgrade off of the Windows 11 22H2 ISO. Legacy NBR version of this thread — http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-precision-windows-11-information.836379/
  3. DPM 7760, A4000 dGPU with iGPU disabled in BIOS. Was sitting reading something and blam, all video died. Forced reboot and now I have these black lines going across my screen. Pic attached. Desktop color is black so I have a notepad window there so you can see the streaks. Anyone see this before?
  4. Hi all, Browsing dell.com I see that they're offering 35% discounts on the 7760 right now. I was thinking of waiting on a 7770, but when I put together a 7760 configuration, the discount saved me almost $2000. I've never purchased a machine from Dell when it just dropped, so not sure what kind of discounts to expect, but I'm guessing it won't be much. Points that I'm mulling over that argue in favor of the 7760 are the discount (obviously), the fact that it has real buttons for the track pad, possible performance issues with the mixed P/E cores on the new chips. Chime in and let me know if you think it's still worth waiting for the 7770 and why. Thanks!
  5. I'm a believer in letting information flow to you, and not having to go and seek it out. In light of this... I'm scraping the Dell support/driver pages and using it to create an RSS feed. If you use a feed reader and one of these systems, you can use the feed to be informed of when new drivers drop. The feeds also include BIOS updates and some Dell software application updates. Right now I'm only grabbing drivers for Windows 10 and 11 (no Linux or older versions of Windows). If there are any other systems that you'd like to see a feed for, let me know and I will add it to the list. Dell Precision 12th gen / Alder Lake (2022) Precision 7770 • Precision 7670 11th gen / Tiger Lake (2021) Precision 7760 • Precision 7560 10th gen / Comet Lake (2020) Precision 7750 • Precision 7550 9th gen / Coffee Lake refresh (2019) Precision 7740 • Precision 7540 8th gen / Coffee Lake (2018) Precision 7730 • Precision 7530 7th gen / Kaby Lake (2017) Precision 7720 • Precision 7520 6th gen / Skylake (2015) Precision 7710 • Precision 7510 4th gen / Haswell (2013) Precision M6800 • Precision M4800 3rd gen / Ivy Bridge (2012) Precision M6700 • Precision M4700 2nd gen / Sandy Bridge (2011) Precision M6600 • Precision M4600
  6. Here is an issue I have experienced with the Samsung P9A1 2TB on a 7760 and need to decide to replace it or not. My concern on removing the PM9A1 on the Gen4 slot is wind up having the disappearing drive issue and need to look at @Aaron44126 fix. Long explanation. I have a 7760 with the OEM Samsung PM9A1 SSD 2TB in the Gen4 slot. Last month (around 1/22/22) I ran the Dell firmware update recommended by Dell Command Update (from 7129 to 8129). I was not experiencing any issues but the update showed up on the Dell Command Update so I ran it. Back in December I previously updated to the 7219 and did not see any issues. The 8129 fix noted is: "- Improved the solid state drive data management to prevent data integrity issues." The system is booting UEFI. I did suspended bitlocker before running the update although the installation directions did not require it like a bios update does. The update reported it was successful and did not ask to reboot. I rebooted and on this first boot the drive was not seen by the system. I rebooted again and the drive was found and booted fine. After the update I confirmed in Device Manager, under SSD Properties, Device Hardware ID that the updated firmware was listed. In windows both Crystal Disk Info and HD Sentinel report the drive is healthy and no issues found. I then ran the Dell Boot Diagnostics and the drive failed the short test (noted Short self-test unsuccessful, error code 2000-0142). I ran it several times and same error each time. I did not run the Dell Diag before I did the firmware update so I do not know if this error would have happened before the update.. Although the drive failed the Dell short test, when in windows, I did not see any issues. Both Crystal Disk Info and HD Sentinel report the drive is healthy. The only issue at the time was the Dell short test fails. As part of trouble shooting, this drive I had bit locker enabled and I decided to turn it off. I started the bit locker decryption process and it got stuck at 77.7%. I spent a day trying to figure it out. With bitlocker stuck, the computer was essentially frozen. I could move the mouse and if I tried to open explorer it would open after around 10 minutes. I eventually figured out that after a force power off and reboot, I could quickly go into command prompt, run "manage-bde -pause C:" and it would pause the bitlocker process. Trying a resume bitlocker did not work and the system would lock up. All my data files are in Dropbox. I unlinked DB to prevent synching to DB. Unlinking did not solve the bitlocker issue. I then deleted all my DB files (around 500GB). Once the files were deleted, I resumed bitlocker and the decryption continued and then finished. The drive was now fully decrypted. Note I use smart synch with DB so although I had 500Gb on the drive, there were many files where it is not the complete file, just a place holder (it is how DB works). I then rebooted the system and ran the Dell Diag and now all tests pass. No failure on the short drive test. I rebooted around a dozen times and ran both the short and thorough tests and no issues found. Both Crystal Disk Info a HD Sentinel find no issues. I also ran chkdsk /f and also chkdsk /r and no bad sectors found. I also ran sfc /scannow and no issues found. I think I ran the chkdsk and sfc/scannow also before I got the decryption to work (with bitlocker paused) and no issues were found then either. I then turned bitlocker back on. I did a full drive encryption and not just no used space. Took around an hour to finish. I installed DB with selective synch and starting to fully synch some files. Also while troubleshooting I did downgrade the firmware to 7129 and then back to 8129 (I forget at what point I did this, I think before I got bitlocker to work). I did the over 2 to 3 days (1/22 to 1/24). Now 2/20/22. I still have the Samsung Drive in the system. Dell did send me a replacement since they are not sure if it is a faulty drive or not. However, I have been hesitant to change it due to the disappearing drive issue. If I do replace it, I will use Acronis to mirror the drive. I am making daily Acronis backups now. Along with monitoring the drive with Crystal and HD Sentinel, I have run the Boot Diagnostics 2 to 4 times a week and also ran the supportassist diag a few times (installed and then uninstalled supportassist) and no drive errors. So the question is, can I assume there are no issues with the drive and the issue was that something got corrupted with the firmware update or the firmware update corrupted something with bitlocker and once I successfully turned off bitlocker the issues is resolved? Strange that I had to delete files to get bitlocker to finish. Or is this indeed a hardware issue that may come up again and I am best to replace the drive? Anyone successfully change the OEM drive in the Gen4 slot and not have the disappearing drive issue? That is my concern with changing the drive. Also thanks to @Aaron44126 who helped with when I was troubleshooting the issue. Thanks, Mike
  7. If you come across any particularly interesting posts with technical details, part numbers, fixes, or how-tos, let me know and I will include them on this list. Many of these link back to the Notebook Review forum, which is going offline on January 31. I will change the links to point to the NBR Precision archive once I have it ready. Upcoming systems: Precision 7670 & Precision 7770 CPU — Intel Alder Lake HX (12th gen) – Intel 7 process, hybrid architecture, 8P + 8E cores, bump up to 55W TDP GPU — NVIDIA Ampere refresh – RTX A5500 with GA103S chip; 7,424 CUDA cores; 16GB vRAM; similar performance to GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU DDR5 (up to 128GB) PCIe4 support — Alder Lake S-BGA supports 36 lanes of PCIe4 (20 at CPU and 16 at PCH), so all NVMe slots in the system should be PCIe4 enabled Expected to be available to order in mid/late second quarter 2022; could be earlier, primarily depends on release timing of Alder Lake HX CPUs, which is currently unclear Pre-release discussion thread Driver / BIOS RSS feeds See: Dell driver RSS feeds General Windows tips for newer Precision systems Dell Precision / Windows 11 information Switching from RAID to AHCI/NVMe mode (same process can be used to return to RAID mode) Switching from AHCI/NVMe mode to RAID mode, if the Windows instance has never seen RAID mode before (...specific to 7X60, will need to be tweaked for other systems) Remapping keys to get dedicated Home/End, PgUp/PgDn Bluetooth fix Precision 7560 & Precision 7760 You can order Precision 7X60 with GeForce RTX 3080 GPU (might support 110W in Precision 7560?) (part numbers) Solving "disappearing drive issue" by keeping the PCIe4 drive slot switch pressed down Display panel and cable part numbers Precision thermals & performance Great interview with Dell thermal engineer Travis North, six parts: one | two | three | four | five | six Notes on disabling the CPU power/throttle limit in modern Precision systems: one | two Notes on undervolting CPU in modern Precision systems Discussion on undervolting GPU in modern Precision systems Insights on Precision allocation of PCIe lanes Explanation of (lack of) performance difference between NVIDIA 4000- and 5000-level GPUs Use 17" GPU vBIOS on 15"/16" GPU to raise the power limit Precision 7560 + NVIDIA RTX A4000 (110W -> 130W) GPU upgrades DGFF upgrades in Precision 7X30, 7X40 Notes on modding NVIDIA INF file Notes on signing a modded NVIDIA driver, so that "test mode" or "disable driver signature enforcement" is not needed Working Quadro P3000 / P4000 / P5000 vBIOS images for Precision M6700, M6800 Dell Precision M6800 / Quadro P5000 vBIOS flash Dell Precision M4800 + Quadro T2000 upgrade Dell Precision M6700 – Quadro M5000M (worked great for me), Quadro P5000 (not so much) Other upgrades Precision M6600-M6800 / M4600-M4800 – different fan types (Sunon, AVC, Delta) Using M.2/NGFF cards in Precision M6700 Precision M6700 45W CPU heatsink replacement Precision M6600 / M6700 IPS display upgrade guide
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