New M18 cooling pad.

[Popcan]

Anyone have any recommendations for a cooling pad?   I currently am running a Cooler Master Notepad U3 without fans. Removed the fans a while back when I got it for my Alienware 17in (ranger) I found the fans to do nothing for the overheating cpu.   I still have the fans beating around somewhere, I thought about trying them out on the m18 but thought maybe there was something better out there.

 

 

 

Thanks all!

[serpro69]

Take a look at

 

 

 

[ryan]

iets gt500

 

its the best laptop cooler money can buy at 100. my temps dropped from 99c-throttling to 67c max. now I see max temps of 53c with undervolt before it would throttle and my max clocks were 3500mhz now i just run the stock 4.6ghz

[1610ftw]

3 hours ago, ryan said:

iets gt500

 

its the best laptop cooler money can buy at 100. my temps dropped from 99c-throttling to 67c max. now I see max temps of 53c with undervolt before it would throttle and my max clocks were 3500mhz now i just run the stock 4.6ghz

 

M18 is hard to cool from below as CPU and GPU are on the other side of the mainboard.

It is a stupid for a number of reasons and this is one of them.

[ryan]

jeesh yeah I cant stand it when the motherboard is flipped. the picture in the link below shows a good sized ventilation area but yea if the motherboard is flipped

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10514/alienware-m18-r1-gaming-laptop/index.html

[Sydneyblue]

I just ordered this for mine https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLP3GVH1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

I will report my findings 

[Sydneyblue]

On 12/19/2023 at 3:49 PM, 1610ftw said:

 

M18 is hard to cool from below as CPU and GPU are on the other side of the mainboard.

It is a stupid for a number of reasons and this is one of them.

Wouldnt the induction of cool air from underneith help ? I was looking at the break down of the machine and i believe it pulls cool air and exhaust out the top of the keyboard i could be wrong 

[1610ftw]

18 hours ago, Sydneyblue said:

Wouldnt the induction of cool air from underneith help ? I was looking at the break down of the machine and i believe it pulls cool air and exhaust out the top of the keyboard i could be wrong 

 

I am sure it will have some effect but much less so than a more open design where such a cooler would blow cool air directly onto the heatsink.

I have a 51m R1 and it suffers from the same issue - much worse cooling with a bottom cooling pad than for example an MSI laptop that have the heatpipes exposed at the bottom with plenty of cooling.

 

MSI had such a design from the GT73 to the GT76, they were very well suited for cooling pads.

 

By the way: I had to laugh: I really like the GT73/75 chassis from MSI but I also have a GT75 with a single memory stick on the other side of the motherboard - pricks 😄

[Sydneyblue]

8 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

 

I am sure it will have some effect but much less so than a more open design where such a cooler would blow cool air directly onto the heatsink.

I have a 51m R1 and it suffers from the same issue - much worse cooling with a bottom cooling pad than for example an MSI laptop that have the heatpipes exposed at the bottom with plenty of cooling.

 

MSI had such a design from the GT73 to the GT76, they were very well suited for cooling pads.

 

By the way: I had to laugh: I really like the GT73/75 chassis from MSI but I also have a GT75 with a single memory stick on the other side of the motherboard - pricks 😄

😃 the weird things was New Egg advertised it having 2×8 not a single 16 

 

Yea that MsI gt73 and 75 were amazing cooling. I had a nice oc on my 7820hk temps under 70c with undervolt. A lot of good memories 

[1610ftw]

3 hours ago, Sydneyblue said:

😃 the weird things was New Egg advertised it having 2×8 not a single 16 

 

Yea that MsI gt73 and 75 were amazing cooling. I had a nice oc on my 7820hk temps under 70c with undervolt. A lot of good memories 

 

Newegg probably thought that it must be 2x8 as 1x16 makes zero sense 😄

 

Yep those 4 core CPUs were cooled very well, 70s at most.

 

[Sydneyblue]

Still thermal thorttling. I tried lowering thr clocks to the lowest in cc and lowered voltage lowest either way seems to hit thorttling

 

I do notice lower temps when downloading and in game. You were 100% right 

 

 

 

 

[1610ftw]

Wow - that fan noise does not sound sustainable!

 

I would not be surprised if your liquid metal application is not that grest - it happened before.

[Sydneyblue]

11 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

Wow - that fan noise does not sound sustainable!

 

I would not be surprised if your liquid metal application is not that grest - it happened before.

I dont mind the sound so its good for me maybe not for others not for anything it was on a high setting where you dont need to have it that high. 

[1610ftw]

About the throttling:

 

Get Throttlestop and check how much power you can sustain on the CPU, should be about 160W long term and at least 200W for a single run of CB R23.

That is with internal fans only and  no help from the  cooling pad. Just lift the rear of the laptop by at least an inch for additional ventilation.

I use a Ringke folding stand  that I also travel with but there are other options, too.

 

Next thing to do would be to undervolt and then you should get at least 35000 in a single run with 99C prochot.

 

 

[Sydneyblue]

49 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

About the throttling:

 

Get Throttlestop and check how much power you can sustain on the CPU, should be about 160W long term and at least 200W for a single run of CB R23.

That is with internal fans only and  no help from the  cooling pad. Just lift the rear of the laptop by at least an inch for additional ventilation.

I use a Ringke folding stand  that I also travel with but there are other options, too.

 

Next thing to do would be to undervolt and then you should get at least 35000 in a single run with 99C prochot.

 

 

I never used throttle stop before but i heard of it and know people like it. Does throttle stop allow to adjust voltage ? I dont have access to voltage of then AWCC which doesnt seem to give me a full rage of options. I also looked in the bios and overclocking is greyed out. I dont know how to get access to that bios is 1.11 

[1610ftw]

1 hour ago, Sydneyblue said:

I never used throttle stop before but i heard of it and know people like it. Does throttle stop allow to adjust voltage ? I dont have access to voltage of then AWCC which doesnt seem to give me a full rage of options. I also looked in the bios and overclocking is greyed out. I dont know how to get access to that bios is 1.11 

 

Sorry, have to pass here but indeed you should first confirm that the overclocking is activated and what the recommended firmware is, could already be mentioned in one of the threads on here.

 

Throttlestop allows to undervolt indeed and it also has a window view that will allow you to check power uptake during a CB run. In any case you can do both things in parallel.

What I like about Throttlestop is that it shows you power uptake in real time and maximum uptake, too. So you can see how high it goes at most and also when it throttles down.

 

AWCC used to be an abomination and I eliminated it from my 51m R1. Not sure how bad it is today but you may want to look into it possibly holding you back or causing weird issues.

[Sydneyblue]

On 2/7/2025 at 3:57 PM, 1610ftw said:

 

Sorry, have to pass here but indeed you should first confirm that the overclocking is activated and what the recommended firmware is, could already be mentioned in one of the threads on here.

 

Throttlestop allows to undervolt indeed and it also has a window view that will allow you to check power uptake during a CB run. In any case you can do both things in parallel.

What I like about Throttlestop is that it shows you power uptake in real time and maximum uptake, too. So you can see how high it goes at most and also when it throttles down.

 

AWCC used to be an abomination and I eliminated it from my 51m R1. Not sure how bad it is today but you may want to look into it possibly holding you back or causing weird issues.

Hey there thanks for all the help. I downloaded throttllestop. I noticed that windows didnt allow me to use a ultra performance power profile. Throttle stop seemed to have changed that also removed C1 States that stopped the clocks dropping to 800 mhz. Do you have any experience with Intel speedsteps?

 

Also here is the picture of the overlocking im not sure why its greyed out but its there  

[Sydneyblue]

Clock are more stable and they dont drop to 800mhz. Do you think i can do better on clocks speeds ? 

[1610ftw]

You need to activate the AW overclocking as otherwise clocks are too low. You should at the minimum be able to do something llike 46 / 38 all cores on this unit.

 

Here is what looks like a good guide for Throttlestop:

 

 

 

Here you find some discussion regarding the AW overclocking, looks like a pita to me.

The good news is that it still seems to work for your model but do not play with core isolation as that may break Throttlestop functionality:

 

 

 

[Sydneyblue]

So basically until i get the overclocking unlocked throttle stop cant do anything with the voltage ?