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I thought so too. Only thing I could see maybe doing is some thermal putty on the backplate for extra cooling but the overall look and everything is top notch. I initially thought the rubber gasket came with the astral but realized it did not. I wonder if it comes with the WB, but either way it is nice. One reason I was hesitant before pulling the trigger was the LM possibility. I'm sure Asus only hires the best bean counters 🤣 Not yet......but close. 🤑 What's the ETA on your Suprim?

Asus use phase-change GPU thermal pads. Hopefully similar quality as PTM 7950. But as you have seen from my posts... Asus can do cheap choices to cut costs for maximized profits. Only a tecnical inspection from an review by Igorslab can determine the brand/quality. Asus could easily use an copy cat to cut costs. We see now why the 4090 is still so expensive. 5090 will be the next on the list. xx90 series is not meant or made for gamers. This is what gamers should buy.... According to Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Is Now The Best Selling GPU At Newegg; GPU Shortage Shows How An 8GB Card Can Get Popular At $450+ The RTX 4060 is currently one of the handful of budget GPUs one can afford and while AMD and NVIDIA have focused heavily on $500+ GPUs, millions of gamers around the world want something more pocket-friendly. Not surprisingly, only one RTX 4060 edition can be seen in the top 10 list and the second RTX 4060 card is in the 16th position.

That is an awesome-looking waterblock. I'd like to know where to buy those rubber gaskets for the liquid metal.

Spot on with that link to Reagan speaking about the pitfalls of tariffs and how to properly use them. Look, the US has been here before. When we went to economical war with Japan in the late 80s/early 90s we were successful because of not only us but other countries bringing balance to global trade and leveling out participation in the economy. Focusing on China only and making sure we have allies in the fight world wide is the right approach if that's the goal to thwart another country from achieving economical dominance like the US has enjoyed for decades. But this Liberation Day nonsense in tandem? No. I will reiterate, I hope it succeeds, but all the signs are it is going to cause catastrophic damage and the vast majority will be a tax on citizens in the US and other countries if they retaliate which I expect can and will happen. I'm just not seeing the end game here dropping an economical nuke on the world and not expecting retaliation. I'm sure @Reciever is going to want to steer the convo back to tech (rightfully so), so this is all I'll speak on about the tariffs and how our hobby is going to get much more expensive sooner than later. ------ If more and more businesses, both small and large, start to use 5090 for AI server needs that will compound pricing on top of everything. It would also harken back to mining farms and lots of GPUs being sold en masse. For 5090 flag ship cards, it's a potential problem, but for all the cards underneath I expect supply to continue to flow in both AMD and Nvidia. If you're content with 5080 on down, you should be good to go soon. Yeah, that 10900k was one of those CPUs on the desktop the SP113 when pushed to 300w the SP113 was clearly the winner hitting 5.5+ pretty easily, but in the X170SM-G? I just kept comparing R23 runs going, "this can't be right" because it was running so much better than all the previous ones I tested and all the ones after I tested. Yeah, you and @tps3443 run 14900hx chips while mine runs a 7950x3d. He has an Acer while you and I have MSI variants. I did swap out the stock drive for a heatsink equipped 990 Pro 2TB. I'll have to check the memory temps. I've been using this since 2016 and if I'm away for awhile, I will pack it in my laptop bag. It works fantastic.

Very nice, looking forward to play with the 10900K 🙂 I also got a decent 10850K by the way but it is just too much for a laptop as it consumes about 15 to 20% more than the chip I got from @electrosoft. Mobile 50x prices are highway robbery right now with MSI, Asus, Razer and others and the Raider with the 4090 will be much better value for money, so I would keep it for a while. As I have rocked the Raider 18HX as my main driver for the last ca. 7 months I can comment on a couple of things even though I have it worse than you guys as mine uses the 14900HX and 192GB memory: I can confirm that it gets VERY hot when not elevated so elevation it a must but then this is true for just about everything out there. Also even with elevation the SSDs, Intel chipset and memory get very hot, especially with the fans turned down which is not a problem for CPU and GPU temps most of the time. This is because until recently all laptops had little to no active airflow over these areas and this is only slowly changing now with first Razer and then Asus adding a center front fan and now Gigabyte one on each side blowing over the other components. Up to more than 100C on the memory and permanently around 60C on SSDs was not what I wanted so I just got a second bottom cover so that I do not care if a few of the plastic noses break off and when not typing on the Raider and with it sitting aside I take it off, takes all of 5 seconds. I do this with most of my laptops that I use for multiple tasks as they all get hot and drop a lot of temps in the SSDs and memory when I do that, also very important for the X170. The difference in memory is as much as 40C and with SSDs I easily see 20C less. Oh and I took off the shield over the memory - no idea how it would be supposed to survive if I retained that shield. Here is what I currently use: Ringke folding stand, it has two height tiers and folds flat when on the road, very convenient: https://www.amazon.com/Ringke-Portable-Lightweight-Anti-Slide-Invisible/dp/B083VT6P7W/ Two Noctua 90mm fans that I had sitting around, just used to move air under the laptop and they can be positioned just about anywhere depending if you type on the laptop or not or if the cover is off or not. Slim 120 x 15mm fans may be even better but I was too lazy to change things. In any case these should just fit under the laptop and in a pinch they can probably be driven directly from the USB-A connector with this: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0DDT78NTK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 I would still prefer some external power and would definitely do that if these fans run permanently and at home. Fans could for example be two or three of these, they can be attached in a row, no added cabling needed: https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-Slim-PWM-Pressure-optimised/dp/B08QDKGCCW/?th=1 and some rubber feet: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X24NTM3?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Fans also work quite well for cooling things down a bit when the bottom cover is closed but of course better when it is not attached or when ventilation openings are increased. So if one never wants to take off the bottom cover I would suggest to get a second one and cut some ventilation openings if needed. TLDR: Use elevation and choose one that you can take with you add some airflow that goes over the bottom, maybe cut out some areas with a spare cover check temps for memory, SSDs and chipset - you may be surprised

@electrosoft did it arrive yet? 😄

Astral disassembly and block. I thought the Astral used LM. Kind of glad to see it doesn't after the Matrix.

Exactly. I see it here in one of worlds most expensive countries to live in. Why should we get cheaper computer parts than US? Something is wrong. 5090 will be a great option for those with AI Server needs. Probably the cheaper option from Nvidia... Because tariffs will make the better opinions from Nvidia even more expensive for those running AI tasks. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/seven-rtx-5090-gpus-power-ai-server-worth-over-usd30-000-over-4000w-of-power-and-224gb-of-memory-in-a-single-frame This is why there is so few 5090's for gamers and so high prices... The shift went from cypto to AI servers. This doesn't bode well for people/gamers that want cheaper nvidia geforce flagship cards. US knock down their best friends. Norway got a 16% gift because we have tariffs on much needed agricultural goods. Remember, we live in one of the worst places to grow food from the ground. Can't compete with other countries on prices because they have a better climate for food production. That would kill all food production here. We have one crop a year where we can get food from the ground (the growing season here is very short.). 3 months of summer and then 9 months of cold. And the summer is also colder than most places on Earth. It will be hard for the poorer people. They will have it even harder than today. But the middle class will survive. None of this will hurt China. Just the rest of us. See the whole video above. Very good summarized. Another devastating factor with Trump's new policies is that hardware manufacturers cannot benefit from the "China+1" strategy anymore, given that the tariffs are also imposed on nations like Vietnam, Thailand, India, and Taiwan, which are deemed to be a viable alternative to China. So, a workaround to these tariffs isn't possible at all. See it this way... China/or the whole asian continent will be the winners. They get the cheapest tech hardware. And hey, they are the first one that can buy and use new released hardware. They even get special hardware (Cpu's and Gpu's) by western tech companies as Intel, Nvidia and AMD.

The sweeping tariffs announced today across ALL countries basically and increasing China's tariff rate to 54% is mind boggling. The <$800 loop hole is also closing too. I wish we would just focus on China at the moment but alas.... "Liberation Day" 🤑🤮 With the way things are going, buy any hardware you want now if you're in the US as much higher costs and a recession is almost guaranteed along with a lot of US based businesses going under because US buyers can't or won't buy their goods at those costs. If this sticks, expect computer part prices to skyrocket in the US. I don't even know where GPUs are going price wise at this rate.... It's a game of chicken at this point and I'm not really sure China will blink let alone the sheer amount of damage we are doing to our relationships with all the other countries in the world including those we call (or called) friends and allies. As always, my main concern is making sure exemptions are placed on necessities required to exist. I really am not as concerned about the top end Lincoln Nautilus going from 80k to 120k+ as I am the cost of necessities from food to household items jumping from $10 to $15 across several ranges that add up quickly for those barely getting by or even those slightly above that. "Hey, tariffs have made the price of already unaffordable American made items cheaper than previously affordable but now extremely unaffordable imports....are we winning yet?" Imagine in the USA where ~11% are classified as poverty level and some studies showing 50%+ live paycheck to paycheck suddenly everything goes up in cost by 10% or more because of tariffs which are known to be another form of taxation. I don't care how you sugar coat it and wrapped it in false patriotism and puffery......tariffs = tax on citizens. Do you think companies are going to suck that up? Nope, they're going to pass as much of it as they can right along to consumers. trump is betting big with house money. I truly hope he knocks it out of the park, but if he doesn't, this could be catastrophic for the US. With today's announcement of 54% tariffs on all imports from China and Liberation Day, these prices may seem cheap in a few months..... Looks like Saturday it should be ready for pick up now and I'm going to pick it up. Worse case scenario, I return it if it has too much coil whine and/or that 4th fan @Papusan is proclaiming sounds like Darth Vader's breathing system at the end of Return of the Jedi after the emperor tunes him up before taking a swan's dive sounds thusly so back it will go..... $3999.99 isn't crazy out of range for the 18 Raider with the 285HX, 64GB 6400 memory, 5090 and 2TB SSD and a mLED display though. but a heck of a lot more than I paid for mine. After tax that is ~$2k more than I paid. No thank you. Nope, when I got home from Florida we got sick with Covid pretty quick and it sat in the bag till last Friday when I updated it for an out of town trip for a family member's wedding where it handled gaming nicely and now (lol) it's back in the bag again. I always use a set of old school "laptop balls" on all my primary laptops for keyboard angling and better cooling. Next time I bust it out, I'll collect some before and after OC data from it. I know you asked me before a week or so ago, but it was still in the bag....

Several variants of this should already exist. Just give us a massive thick brick that has PCIe slots and cpu sockets lol. It’s easier than making tiny BGA machines. That would be nice. I’m quite enjoying my BGA Turd book though. 14900HX+4090 Mobile. The thing RIPS! But, I kinda wish it was not so locked down. And I wish I had a little more juice for the GPU TDP. It seems to have the cooling headroom. I really need 200w TGP.

I'm using Kryosheet on the CPU and PTM 7950 on the GPU. I also tested PTM 7950 on the CPU, but its performance is lower compared to Kryosheet. The problem with Kryosheet is that the heatsink needs to make a perfect contact with the die, uniform, otherwise the performance will be equal or worse than PTM 7950. I have 2 heatsinks for the P7540, the original one for Quadro T2000 and the one I bought for RTX 4000. I can only get these 160W with the original heatsink because unfortunately with the new, 2 cores reach the thermal limit at ~130W in the short CBR23 test. About undervolt, my i9 is totally stable with -102mV for the cache and -170mV for the core. This is for Windows in Balanced mode, with Speedshift at 84, where the clocks vary constantly... In High Performance mode (Speedshift = 0), the stable undervolt varies according to the set clock and to use a more aggressive undervolt I need to set the same clock for all loads on all cores. On my i9, for 4.2 and 4.3GHz the stable undervolt is the one mentioned above, but above that I can extract more: 4.4GHz -120mV / -200mV 4.5GHz -140mV / -230mV 4.6GHz -150mV / -250mV 4.7GHz -135mV / -225mV One tip is that with the default IccMax (140A) the maximum power the CPU can use is ~120W, which on the CBR23 with undervolt is equivalent to ~4.4GHz on all cores. Above that, it is necessary to increase the IccMax of the core and cache. For normal use, I keep it at default, for intensive tasks with overclocking or for benchmarks I increase both to the maximum.

I had bought a new motherboard with i9-9880H, but it never arrived... There was a problem with the order at customs. I then ordered a new one with i9-9980HK which arrived last week. After installation I started tuning and refining the new system (from i7-9750H/T2000 to i9-9980HK/RTX 4000 Max-Q) with some discoveries: - Systems that left the factory with BIOS 1.7 or older have the undervolt unlocked even when installing the latest BIOS, just return the factory defaults (BIOS). This was the case with my original system with i7, but this new one came from the factory with BIOS 1.11.2 and this trick is not possible because restoring factory defaults returns the original BIOS defaults. The option for undervolting are to either downgrade to BIOS 1.7 (or older), reset the BIOS default and then you can update to the latest BIOS that the undervolt will remain. - The PL1 and PL2 power limits (75/107W on the i9 and 75/90W on the i7) are locked, but sporadically, without understanding the pattern, I was able to unlock them by checking the MMIO lock box in ThrottleStop. I discovered that going into sleep with the values changed and lock MMIO marked when the system returns the defined values are maintained. I was surprised by the performance the Precision 7540 can squeeze out of this i9. I was even able to maintain an overclock of 200MHz on the all core clock (4.2GHz > 4.4GHz). Above that, thermal throttling becomes a problem and is not worth it in this chassis. Maybe with LM and better luck in the silicon lottery the i9 can maintain 4.5GHz on all cores... 1- Original power (75/107W) / without undervolt 2- Power limit unlocked / without undervolt 3- Original power / undervolt 4- Power limit unlocked / undervolt / 4,2GHz (default) 5- Power limit unlocked / undervolt / 4,4GHz (slight thermal throttling at the very end of the test)