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33 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

50C in CB23? Edit: Nm, it's the 7800X3D, 8 cores, so plausible. 

 

BTW AIDA read throughput looks a bit low for 6000. What gives? AFAIR my slow 5600@5200 modules push more (in AIDA, about 65GBps in other benchmarks), despite higher latency. Is that an AMD+AIDA thing?

 A no, in gaming, Cyberpunk 2077 with the 7950x3d. In CB23 it settled around 79-80, that honeywell pad is gold!

@electrosoftNice infos, thanks. I eagerly await your findings and what you can squeeze  out of the x3d chips. I think in the end you will have a home for the 7950x3d😁. Lovely chip and for a tinker like yourself is a dream come true 😄. The fact that is so well made for gaming but you also can use it for a power productivity build with the help of Process Lasso is awesome.

Sry for the double post 😄

16 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Two useless extra fans at the cost of no dual vbios switch.... Yeah, that's real stupid. 

 

Yeah crazy that dual bios feature is missing but they put so much care building it nice with those pads on the backplate for extra cooling.

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Tuned Primaries and fclk. Fclk caps out at 2100. Onward to terts....

 

 

 

Nice, i need to tune my ram aswell still working expo at 6000 cl32.. Didnt buildzoid said that 2033 was the best on AM5?

Or was that a bug at the beginnig.

After i installed win 11 i found the best config for the 7950x3d chip, so in bios prefer frequency instead of v-cache, then in windows stay on balance mode and turn the crap game mode off and game bar aswell.

Use process lasso and  for Games use CPU Sets to v-cache, everything else leave it alone. Works wonders and love Process Lasso. Getting a little more fps in games like cyberpunk, but especially the lows are so high as before on the 7900x, its so smooth and the cpu is only consuming 60w ..Its crazy how efficient is this cpu, and with the honeywell pad it only goes to 50 Celsius.

Now i need to play with PBO and Ram, if i have time..

Playing a lot of Cyberpunk 2077, with the introduction of RT Overdrive 😄. Maybe this time ill finish it

Thanks. ill need to monitor it then and see how it behaves. Right now it looks like after a night of cooling the pad i have improved again with the temp. Staying steady at 80 degrees C in CR23.

I see. Hopefully is not my case. Did this came over time or from the beginning? Il need to watch then for signs.

1 hour ago, Etern4l said:

 

On the Intel side the contact frame gimmick helped ruin my mobo, and probably the CPU (delidding repaired it, fortunately). I would have recommended testing with the ILM first. 

Oh how did that happen? I know on intel those are made to straighten the socket. For amd they are only for looks and to keep away the paste going over the weird looking ihs. Maybe helping with cooling for like 1 degree..

5 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Decided to snag a 7950X3D from Best Buy too and compare them extensively over the next few weeks to see which one I want to keep. I plan on testing max fclk/PBO on the 7800X3D and run all the normal benchmarks and fun times and gaming runs (WoW) then swap in the 7950X3D rinse and repeat.

 

First I'll make sure everything is up to date and lock down a static flight path and re-tweak/verify and run my 12900k 5.2 all core through the same paces for comparative data.

 

 

 

Nice, i also got my 7950x3d today and installed it. Still need to reinstall win 11 and do all the optimizing..

I hate Windows reinstall, I always try and keep it as long as possible, but in this case it looks like there is a performance impact when you go from a non V cache cpu to a vcache one.

Did some  temperature cycles on the CPU with some game benches and now i get in C23 a max of 82 Celsius, so 4 degrees cooler as before when i apply it. This thing is solid good. Maybe it will improve further

Now i need to tinker with this special CPU, need to install Process Lasso 😄

Finally got the new 7950X3D inside, also used a secure frame on the cpu socket. 😀

I used a wide duct tape to take the second film from the pad and it worked, just one corner got a little stuck.

Got my 7950x3d inside and used the ptm7950 pad,  also got a secure frame from Thermalright mounted. I dont know if it helps but looks cool and for 12 euros was ok😊.  Now I need to leave the pad for curing. Did two r32 runs and the temp went to 86 only, so looks good no thermal throttling. 😁.. Well need to see how it behaves after some days of work and gaming.

My cpu arrived today and I hope I have enough time to mount it later. I have found an tutorial how to apply the pad without damaging it. I'll try and use it.

Looks like it's good to freeze it and to take off the the plastic film from both sides is better to use a wide duct tape and peel it of from one go and not use the thin ones included in the package.

https://community.frame.work/t/honeywell-ptm7950-phase-change-thermal-pads-sheets-application-tips-and-results/20245

5 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 

Yeah, the pad is fiddly to apply. Sticking it in the freezer didn't really help, that's why I bought the paste for future applications. 

 

The last question in my mind is whether Conductonaut would be able to significantly improve on this. 

Freezing didnt work? i was thinking thats the way to put it on. I was planning to put it in the frigde overnight and then applying it.

LE: Forgot the  ? 🙂

Good temps. What did you use? Paste or the pad?

I am waiting for my new 7950x3d and i will use the pad on it.

Good rant and he is right. The prices went ballistic 😥

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

7950X3D will be a nice overall bump over your 7900x, congrats!

 

I saw Newegg is offering them now with a $25 discount so pricing is moving in the right direction. My 7800X3D arrived yesterday and my Carbon X670E will be here today. Hopefully I can carve out some time to get it setup sooner than later in my workbench case.

 

I think the 7800X3D will work out for me considering I usually run my 12900k 5.2 all core locked P-Cores only but I'll leave ther 7950X3D as an option. Plan is to ride this till 8000 X3D unless Intel somehow drops the high heat (or the 7800X3D sucks).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thx, I think you getting a 7800x3d push me to bite the bullet😂😂😂. Yeah I needed from the beginning a 16 core, went with the 7900x only because I got it cheap with ddr5 bundle and was a known fact at launch that a x3d Version was coming so thats the reason of skipping the normal 7950x.

Oh well, got a good deal on a 7950x3d so i went with it :). Looks like ill buy ProcessLasso, very nice that you can still get a lifetime license.

4 hours ago, ratchetnclank said:

 

I look forward to trying it in a few years then. If the desktop 4090 has to run dlss performance to get 60fps then a laptop class gpu has no chance.

With dlss 3 frame generation I get around 70 fps in downtown night city and around 90 in the desert with my 4090 Thats on 5120x1440 resolution. But yes no chance to play without some form of dlss

5 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I've been looking over Lasso and assignments and the easiest way still seems to be just to spend a minute disabling the non 3D CCD for gaming and enabling it for everything else but I'll cross that use scenario down the road.

 

I ended up going with an MSI X670E Carbon that I found open box from Amazon for ~$320. I was about to pull the trigger on the 3rd party open box for $365 when I refreshed and it popped up so I grabbed it.

 

I have some M-die DDR5 heatsinked 2x16GB sitting on the shelf that can hit 6600. It's been on the shelf for over 6 months waiting for a home.

 

Just need to either pony up for a 7950X3D or wait for a 7800X3D and save $250.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great deal on that x670. It's a good board, I'm very happy with msi and how they are working with the am5 socket. They are getting very fast new bios versions.

Yeah need to try lasso aswell when time comes, was reading a bit on reddit about it and it looks simple enough, you can save presets apparently. Just make the config for the game,  save it and then it's just a click away.

On 4/10/2023 at 11:31 PM, electrosoft said:

 

7800X3D is a no brainer for an easy , drop in massive boost to gaming like the 5800X3D is for AM4.

 

Depending on your use case, 7950X3D makes perfect sense. I said it elsewhere, but for myself I would just disable the second CCD if it is acting inappropriately with my given games and just re-enable it for normal D2D use but if gaming is your focus, 7800X3D is the go to chip.

 

As for mindfactory, like any new product, let's see where it settles in after the initial launch rush but the 7800X3D really does check all the boxes for a gamer focused CPU.

 

 

I'm leaning towards the Asrock X670E lightening PG for a potential X3D buildout. It seems to check all my boxes including a killer price for a full X670E chipset.

 

Coincidentally, Asrock also makes the beefiest/best PCB 7900xtx (Taichi) a repeat of their 6900xt/6950xt best PCB design with the Formula OC.

 

 

Yes for my use , work and gaming i will buy thee 7950x3d cpu but not at this price, ill wait to go lower. 500 Us or so. will happen soon i think now that 7800x3d is here. Even better as disable is to use Proceesor lasso and assign the game on the Vcache  CCD, that way the oder CCD will take the backround  tasks and free the vcache  only for gaming. 

Overdrive RT looks good