Rage Set

I still have several X299 mobos, so I'm trying to get CPUs for them. I checked prices for the 10980XE and they are still going for 400 to 600 bucks. Insane! If they were 200 or less, I'd buy three, but I guess I'll wait. It seems a lot of these CPUs are already delidded. I am not sure if I want to trust some random guy's delidding skills.

3D Printing is akin to overclocking PCs. Let me explain. Like all of us in this thread, overclocking is the sport. Pushing hardware past its intended limits. Even if we are never going to use that redline performance for practical use cases. Then there are some that go beyond traditional overclocking and step into the realm of sub-ambient overclocking. Both groups are represented in the world of 3D printing. These are the folks who care less about the end output (actual 3D prints) and more about building and modding the 3D printers themselves. Most take extreme pride in building the DIY 3D printers with significant hardware mods. You can easily spend over 10K on some of these machines. Software wise...it looks like a lot of these software companies took a page out of the Asus BIOS book and I am only talking about the slicer applications. If you want complete software control over your custom 3D printer, the creative knobs are certainly there. The 3D printer manufacturers are similar to computing companies. Prusa is akin to the Intel of old. One of the originators of 3D printers. Reliable (for the most part) 3D printers that allow total customizability and modding. Although, they have been stagnant while smaller 3D printer manufacturers have been eating their lunch lately. Creality is AMD of old in many ways. Offering lots of budget machines that require extensive rework by the end user to get working reliably, although they have some killer options that will match some of the competition at a much lower cost. Finally, there is Bambu Labs which is essentially, a mix of Apple/Nvidia. BL 3D printers just work out of box and are known to be very reliable...at the cost of being stuck in a proprietary walled garden. There are still third-party companies creating hardware modifications, but nothing like Prusa's ecosystem. I have entered a rabbit hole that I can see myself becoming increasingly addicted to exploring. Printing and holding your first 3DBenchy is a wonderful feeling. EDIT: The 3DBenchy is a benchmark for 3D printers.

Building out a 3D print farm, starting with the Bambu Labs P1S. My only concern is that many of the reviews on Bambu Labs products compare the company to Apple...it just works but modding is out the window. My initial goal is to design and print custom parts for PCs. My ultimate goal is to have a CNC machine. I have to keep telling myself to start small, hahaha. I am also going to write a review for this product, stay tuned for that. If this endeavor ends up like I think it will, if any of you ever need a custom piece printed, let me know and I'll just charge the cost of materials.

Does this mean I am on a special team, RGB (AMD, Nvidia and Intel for CPUs/GPUs)? 🤣😂 EDIT: With @Mr. Fox and @Talon currently visiting team Red, my question is when will @Papusan take the plunge? These are some strange times, next thing I know @ryan would be joining the desktop crew as well.

I agree to an extent. My problem stems from owning several 3090's, thinking it would remain the top dog (even after the release of the 3080 Ti made it less relevant). Then Nvidia released the 3090 Ti (those owners didn't even get a full year before the 4090 came out) as a greedy slap to all 3090 owners. That is why I completely avoided the 40 series up, until the past month when I purchased a used 4070 Super at a really good price. If Nvidia does this again, I will stop buying Nvidia products. I will not care how performant their cards are in the future.

I am in a wait and see mode. The more I've researched W790, the more I see that Intel simply slapped "overclocking" as an afterthought. So I am not enthusiastic that Intel will fix its approach with W890. As for AMD, I will give the 9950X3D a cursory lookover but I am not bullish on it either. The saving grace for that CPU is that I have a mobo available that will work with it, otherwise I am going to stick with the 7600X for longer. The only thing I can look forward to hopefully is the 5090. Hopefully, Nvidia doesn't release a 5090 TI this generation or I am going to be seriously pissed.

So it's Ryzen first gen all over again. Instead of AMD competing with the 6950X/7980XE, it's Intel's turn to compete with the 13900K/14900K? The true end of an era.

I believe I am getting the Z890 + CPU, however, I want to make sure 1851 will have at least two generations. The on and off rumor of it being limited to one generation is worrying me.

Outside of the idiotic Intel protections, my doubts about the 285K and the 1851 as a whole have tempered a bit. I think Intel allowing the E cores to potentially overclock like crazy is the saving grace. I am very intrigued about this platform now. EDIT: Guys, I think we need to relax. OC'ing isn't dead, at least not for guys like us. We will still be able to extract more performance out of these chips and some of the "guardrails" will be removed when Intel realizes people aren't happy. In Jay's video, you noticed he said DLVR Bypass isn't available at launch. That means Intel is likely taking a wait and see approach. Give it some time and I say, wait for the reviews.

Good. You can finish what I was going to do. I had the CPU (twice even) but couldn't get a mobo that wasn't outrageously priced. I still want one, but I'll probably settle on a W790 setup. I am in love with Proxmox, and my goal is to consolidate my home lab servers into one and then virtualize everything.

LOL. That is the one thing I have not spent money on...a gaming chair. I still use an old wooden chair that I believe is from the 70's. The one chair I had my eye on for the past four years is the HarmanMiller Aeron Chair that I keep hearing is amazing but my wife would kill me if she found out I paid over $1000 for one. I also heard you can get them used for 300 to 500, but I never see them for that price locally.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/qualcomm-has-explored-acquiring-pieces-intel-chip-design-business-sources-say-2024-09-06/ I've been saying, without fanboyism tones or malice, but Intel as we knew it... Is going to disappear. It's mostly self inflicted. Other companies are circling Intel like hungry sharks. AMD fanboys are lavishing in all of this news but AMD isn't as bulletproof as they think they are.

Here you guys talking about AMD vs Intel but you guys haven't heard that everything we love is pointless....if you take the writer at xda-developers.com word's for it. https://www.xda-developers.com/overkill-pc-building-trends-not-worth-the-trouble/ 5 overkill PC building trends that aren't worth the trouble - You only have to take a look at the comments to figure out this guy shouldn't be writing for a tech website. What in the heck happened to that website? I remember getting ROMs for my phones from this website and now they are hot take artists.

The key takeaway from Puget's data is how conservative they set their BIOS settings for both Intel and AMD. I.E. Puget sells workstation PCs where longterm stability is the selling point, performance is likely second or third. AMD's 7000 series is a furnace with default settings just like Intel's initial "let the mobo makers choose whatever they want" settings. I stated in the past few years that Intel was heading towards catastrophe. This was coming from me at a time when I was a proud self-proclaimed Intel fanboy. Admittedly, it was due to my now defunct company and having some direct contact with Intel. I saw the writing on the wall when the reps we were dealing with were changing every 4 to 6 months. Sure TO is high in consumer CS roles, but B2B reps generally stick around for years until promoted. Intel will make it through this but they will be vastly different than they are now. I won't be surprised when they go fabless just like AMD.

Is this the prelude to the all P-core processors that are rumored? @Mr. Fox @Talon https://wccftech.com/intel-14th-gen-desktop-cpus-no-e-cores-core-i9-14901ke-flagship-8-p-cores-5-8-ghz/ I am actually curious about the 14901KE for homelab server use - https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/238781.html