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There are different height pads depending on the slot. Always check for contact pressure on the pad in case the z-height of your SSD is different than the OEM drive. I did not really test drive temperatures in mine. It would not have been relevant data as I only use one drive which is not going to generate as much radiant heat as using four drives would.

Here is GPU-Z from the Hydroc G2: I am guessing the X580 cooling is on par with the P775TM1-G as they are both designed for around 250W combined loads IIRC.

If you intend to get that Gskill XMP kit once available you may have no choice but to disable SAGV as it usually increases stability (at least that was the case with raptor lake). Supposedly gear 2 is good up to 8400MT/s on the 285K. I could not get the Kingston Fury sticks to boot at 7200MT, probably due to the 1.25v limit on this bios version.

Well, the new Uniwill IDY now has a modular, full wattage 5070ti - 5090 mobile. Probably the first I have seen since the X170 as a full wattage modular part. No guarantees of upgrades but I am sure someone with a 5070ti + Intel could switch to 5090 if desired. Its kind of funny that Uniwill is now producing more modular products than Clevo. I am not interested in their watercooling addons but I do appreciate everything else they are doing engineering-wise.

Yes, same chassis. The cooling system works fine for air-only operation. Probably not as powerful as a vapor chamber but that is a tradeoff that I am fine with for a more professional looking chassis and no gaudy RGB defaults.

I preordered one of these back in late February and it was delivered last week. Specs / options: Intel Arrow Lake 275HX with CPU tuning RTX 5090 Mobile 175W / 5080 Mobile 2x16GB Kingston Fury 6400 CL38 XMP kit / CSODIMM also supported with memory tuning 1x Gen5 M.2 + 1x Gen4 M.2 SSD 16 inch miniLED 300hz QHD+ panel with local dimming switch / 300hz IPS Initial impressions: This model has very good build quality. It is much more solid feeling than the Clevo X580 and even some mobile workstations. The fan noise does not have any high pitched whine. It has fully customizable RGB lighting including the ability to override cold boot settings. The shipping bios has limited tuning but Premamod will be available when ready. Local dimming on the miniLED makes me like this type of panel. Unfortunately it is not the boot default but atleast it can be controlled via software. I have tried many different memory kits so far in it. The best performing has been the Kingston Fury 2x16GB 6400 CL38 XMP kit however it has to use a custom profile with 1.25v due to shipping bios limitations. That results in ~98ns latency in Gear 2. I will try to post a full review soon.

I tried your settings for SA and D2D and they helped a little. Also set cache to 40x. You might try disabling SAGV + setting Gear 2 to see if that helps. It might hurt battery life though as memory clocks remain at the set frequency.

It's pretty good on air actually. I do not have or want the water-cooling addon. The memory is just using the xmp timings but at 1.25v. It should be able to go further once the premamod bios is ready. That kit looks like a good one and could probably boot in the hydroc or titan. I'm surprised there is no updated Kingston fury options yet. From what prema has tested with some binned memory from eluk at similar speeds it could be under 80ns latency!

I actually ended up returning the X580 to Sager. Primarily due to its lack of tuning features for the price. I expect undervolting and memory tuning to be available. Back in late February I had also pre-ordered a Hydroc G2 from Eluktronics. It shipped last week and this laptop has it all. Here is its run down of good points: Premamod bios - full CPU and memory tuning Tuning of GPU TDP and dynamic boost configuration up to 175W 420W Power supply 2x SODIMM with supplemental cooling for better memory tuning Full sized right shift key and more solid keyboard with better travel miniLED with local dimming switch TB4 port wired to iGPU (also mDP and HDMI wired to dGPU) modular GPU board excellent fan noise - no whine, along with full fan curve and hysteresis control decent speakers (unsure of their wattage) boot override configurability for all RGB zones Here is a run of AIDA64 at 6400 CL38 Gear2. I guess there is the Raider 18 with 285HX + 5090M + QHD+ at Micro Center for $4100 but to be honest I don't like its RGB configuration support so its not something I would be interested in regardless of its performance. There is still no solid information about if its TB5 ports can be driven by the iGPU either.

It sounds like there may be a temporary tariff pause so over the summer pricing may be less volatile. The addon RAM and SSD has always inflated their prices. All of the good deals last year were models that shipped with 32GB and 1TB. Their QHD+ also seems to be much cheaper than the miniLED panel too. The 275HX is actually pretty good. Runs great with WoW and any other games, much cooler temperatures overall than 14900HX. Best of all I can finally get something with ability to tune the CPU, control the fans, max GPU TDP, and with an iGPU TB4 port just like the Precision series. Memory latency is higher but luckily it can atleast be tuned to get closer to what I have heard with the 285K. I have heard rumors that 9945HX3D has seen some AGESA bug fixes and does have higher TDP than 7945HX3D. Its a shame MSI has decided to only pair the new chip with UHD+ panels at the moment. Maybe Micro Center has enough pull with them to get a 9945HX3D config with QHD+ at a good price as they seem to have done that with the 285HX variant this year.

Not a bad review. I never realized the trackpad being centered like that with the Raider 18. I guess I did not use it enough on the go without a mouse. For price the Micro Center deals on the Intel model are better, $3000 for the 5080 and $4100 for the 5090. I cannot say they are enticing though as the included memory and storage would just be chucked and replaced with better performing options from known good brands instead of the lottery system of OEM components. MiniLED panels should always have a switch to disable local dimming. Having now used the panel on the Hydroc G2 it is finally an experience that can be the same as you would get on the IPS variant.

There was the Asus laptop a while ago with the Quadro equivalent of a 2080Ti - complete with 24GB of memory on a 384-bit bus. It had a 200W power limit but did show that a TU102 chip could fit and function in a laptop. Personally I think we need properly sized DTR 5090m laptops at 300W+ before bigger more expensive silicon. That is not happening soon as all the OEMs have declared anything thick cannot possible sell well. Nvidia does not help with this either as they clearly want to keep their entire mobile product line in a close range of trickled performance.

It's a MSI pro z690-a wifi with a 2x16gb 6400 cl32 kit. The 12900ks has also been delidded and has the rockitcool copper ihs. I know that the other sapphire rapids users hit a wall with their chips too. Even the refresh chips are only reaching 5.2 on the starred cores, maybe 5.3 with hyper threading disabled. I guess those cores do have 2mb l2 just like raptor cove. I think I have mentioned before that cppc seems to be broken on the w790-sage so process lasso to keep those threads on the higher clocked cores is very helpful. I wonder if using the third and fourth gen5x16 slots for my GPU and SSD makes it need a couple extra mesh hops from the preferred cores compared to the top two Gen5 slots. The preferred cores are definitely the best ones though as they need under 100mv less at the same clock compared to the non preferred cores.

I am tempted to try and move my 5090 into my Intel 12900ks + z690 system this weekend and see if it does better with wow than the HEDT setup. I could even potentially try a 14900k or ks if it's supported via a bios update. That 12900ks seemed like it was pretty leaky in the raptor x15 but it might do perfectly fine even with good air cooling.

I dont have a picture of one but from the exterior it looks very much like the PE60. It seems like the X580 does OK with a heatpipe system. Would a vapor chamber have helped slightly? Maybe but only Clevo engineering would know at this point.