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  1. win32asmguy
    We have to give credit to Tom at XMG for finding out the optimal memory options: https://download.schenker-tech.de/media/products/schenker-key-18-pro_e25/key-18-pro-e25_memory-guide_2025-04-11.pdf As far as the SSD heatsinks I cannot comment how well they work as I have not paid attention to the SSD temperatures closely. The plates attached to the bottom cover appear to be somewhat thick and heavy, hopefully they are powdercoated copper. I have not swapped in a higher performance drive yet from the stock Crucial P3 1TB which likely does not generate much heat under sustained transfers. I will try to test those things out when I can. Based on research from Tom's posting CSODIMM should benefit. I don't have 4x matched dual rank modules so I cannot comment on my own testing but it looks like they might run a few bins over the stock speeds.
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    Update, using two sticks in dual channel does work fine, I just missed the correct slot combination with my initial testing. Use slots 2 & 3 in this case for the best performance which is pretty close to using four sticks at the same 5600 CL40. It has the benefit of reduced memory temperatures under sustained combined loads. With two Kingston Fury 5600 CL40 kits: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/130810731?
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    These are the heatsinks on the bottom cover for the SSDs. The freezing issue was the mixed RAM modules. With only 2x Crucial it did not freeze. Now I am testing 4x Kingston Fury so hopefully it will not freeze and also work at higher speeds. I have not had a bluescreen yet with Clevo's drivers. They did post updated drivers the other day so I can test them out once I have the RAM stability ironed out.
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    Its hard to say. Supposedly they are a better bin but so far as I know the stock clocks are the same. Mine is only on air which is likely a limiting factor. In theory 5.2ghz should be possible on a few cores on air, and I think up to 5.4ghz is common on water. Latency is around 75ns with the 6400 CL32 4x16GB kit with tREFI set to 32k. It is also bottlenecked by mesh clocks so 23x (stock) is substantially higher latency than 30x.
  5. win32asmguy
    So far I have it at 4.8ghz on six cores and 4.6ghz on all others. The Skatterbencher article mentioned individually testing each core to find an offset but I have not found the process to do that yet.
  6. win32asmguy
    Yeah Sapphire Rapids also has some unfortunate downsides like registered dimms, mesh clock bottlenecks and broken CPPC. I also find that disabling hyperthreading improves performance. Mine is the monolithic chip variant and IPC should be close to 13900K P-cores as it has the full 2MB L2 per core. I wonder how a 285K setup would do. 275HX has not been horrible so far. I also thought about getting a 38 inch 144hz ultrawide as the 5090 could likely run it at the exact same framerates as I get on the QHD display. Although that still does not make the machine any more portable so I can use it during the day. The 5090 itself has been great. Just stock clocks, no coil whine and temps are pretty good. It was 2500usd including tax which without any silly bundle bucket deals which seems pretty killer compared to prices today. It might even get worse if the MSRP for these is going up to 3500usd soon.
  7. win32asmguy
    Those likely will not fit. The bottom panel has metal heatsinks for each SSD that make contact via a thick pad. Those heatsinks are riveted to the bottom panel so it would need to be modified. There is also a concern that the fourth drive slot may not fit a double sided SSD as it is on top of the wifi card. I need to test it out next time I have it opened. I have also been experiencing a system freeze if it's idle for 45 minutes. It may be due to using the mixed hynix and micron memory kits. Still it's pretty exciting to have a decent system produced by Clevo after a couple of years that were duds.
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    I still have the 5090 gaming trio oc but have not used it for a month. I will probably just list it for sale soon as I don't have much time at home to use a desktop system. To be honest the sapphire rapids CPU isn't pairing very well with the card as WoW was mostly CPU limited.
  9. win32asmguy
    The keyboard is the same as the X170 and X370 other than having a copilot key. Also Tom at XMG mentioned the key 18 pro uses ptm7950 so hopefully that is the case in all regions. In performance mode overclocking is an option so things are tunable other than undervolting. Audio is greatly improved over the X170 and even the MSI raider or titan. I will also note that surface temps are better now as well. Maximum read was around 45C above the keyboard. I am waiting on a second set of Kingston fury 5600 cl40 2x16 to test for stability at higher speeds. Tom was able to go up to 5200 MT/s with some csodimms so far. He is also validating it for use with 256GB.
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    I picked up an X580 for testing as I was curious about the improvements they have made on the X370. Specs: Performance - 150W PL2 / 135W PL1 / 250W combined (observed as 70W CPU + 170W GPU in OCCT combined load test) Entertainment - 130W PL2 / 46W PL1 / 195W combined (observed as 46W CPU + 150W GPU) 18 inch QHD+ 240hz, panel is BOE NE180QDM-NZ2 Memory needs four sticks to run in dual channel and by default boots at 4400 MT/s per Intel specs. Memory must be run in slot 2 and 3 for dual channel operation. The best performance is to use single rank memory with tight timings but likely no XMP support. So kits like Kingston Fury 2x16GB 5600 CL40. There is a bios option to select a higher memory speed. Much better cooling, as the system can sustain these loads without thermal throttling. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/130420192?
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    Ah that makes sense. I did not expect it to be wired significantly different from the other models to be honest. At least this year it seems that due to the Arrow Lake TB4 having iGPU video output by default, many new options will have this "feature" if they include that port.
  12. win32asmguy
    Ah, my question was if the HDMI is MUXed to the iGPU in hybrid mode along with the laptop panel.
  13. win32asmguy
    Yeah that annoying fan oscillation was present on the Fury 16 G10. I suppose that we can adjust power limits but I do not think there is a way to adjust turbo ratios down other than dropping all the way to base clocks. The CreatorPro X18 sounds really nice. It just needs more display options. If the HDMI port really can be driven by the iGPU that is a great feature and unique to its model. There is an open box model available here at a good reseller and its tempting to try testing it out.
  14. win32asmguy
    I agree about the fan curve issues. While the Zbook 15 G4 did not have this problem the Zbook Studio G3 definitely did and probably every generation going forward. Fan oscillation at idle speeds and in generally just annoying bursts of noise from day to day use. Of course tuning is also locked down so helping the situation by taming the CPU was not possible. I would even say the Precision models just have annoying fans, the only workstation that is a pleasure to use noise wise has been the Thinkpad P16 G2. We dont really know how Arrow Lake HX will feel or work yet. It could be the case that the previous gen 14900HX / 13950HX may have a better experience for quite some time.
  15. win32asmguy
    My thought this time around is the uniwill id-y model will do the best as it will have a well tunable CPU and memory. A 285hx may have higher clocks but the design must allow those to be sustainable. The 18 inch zbook is also quite interesting. If anything because I really like physical touchpad buttons over clickpads.
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