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Not exactly true. The basic frame and chassis was the same since 2021, in 2022-23 only the Pro versions with the RTX3050 had some elementary dual cooling with the fans next to each other. But the 2024 Meteor Lake Pros changed the case completely, the dual cooling is more efficient, bigger heat pipes, fans wide apart and the dual fans were also applied to the non dGPU models. Also they had already bigger speakers and the 2025 models have twice the amount of speakers. The lower screen bezel is bigger and there is a bigger gap between the keyboard and the screen, improving even more the airflow. But the laptop is a bit deeper also and the screen stays higher, so it does not stay aligned anymore with the LG View portable monitor (this is a bummer for me). They also dropped the mini SD card reader. So basically, except the Aerominum and the new processors, all changes are just incremental. And as RS4 already wrote, probably they are killing the non Pro 16-17 versions, which was about time because their one fan thermal throttling was only causing dissatisfied customers. Prices probably will be absurdly high, but if you wait, the Grams depreciation is always quite steep. The AI bubble will soon bust, Crucial/Micron will regret abandoning retail customers, and IT companies will beg consumers to buy.

I thank you also for the videos and the summary. I guess Aerominum is not just marketing gimmick but it is LG's innovation to answer to all these Youtubers that kept complaining when they were reviewing the Grams. So I guess the 2026 models will be much sturdier and maybe just a little lighter. What is a pity is the focus on AMD late in the game, now that AMD is annihilated by Panther Lake.

I cleaned up my library recently, I threw away some 15 year old books about peak oil. The debate about limited resources was always popular, even more popular at our parents time, my father was talking about peak oil 40 years back. Recently some huge lithium deposits were discovered in Germany of all places.... I am more doubtful if LG Grams will still be in the market in 2030, they do not seem to innovate much anymore, there is a new Chinese company which launched a Gram competitor, albeit with 2024 processors: https://www.geekom.de/geekbook-x16-pro-laptop-16-zoll/

I checked the LG site in US and they have already increased their prices by 20-30%. But on Amazon.com (where I bought mine) the price stays the same for now.

Risky proposition, it is not only the fan but also the heat pipes. With the Pro you have also 4 speakers (amazing sound) and VRR monitor and a bit brighter I think. On the other hand if you are happy with the 14in performance, you will be fine with the 17in also. Arrow Lake is the Intel miracle that nobody talks about, as I wrote above, everybody was talking about Lunar Lake

No, my Arrow Lake gives at least 30-40% more battery life than my older 13th Gen Raptor Lake. They have gone with TSMC and 4nm if I am not mistaken instead of 10nm. The progress in heat and efficiency is impressive, I found back the coolness of my 2021 model that I missed. And of course performance is more than 50% faster. Intel did all the marketing with Lunar Lake which of course is even more efficient because of the RAM on the chip like Apple, but ArrowLake was a great improvement also. Simply they wanted to focus on the amazing battery life and probably they were ashamed to show that with similar architecture they managed such great improvements with ArrowLake just by not using the Intel foundries.

The journalist of Engadget just parrots the old bull... of Grams being too flexible and not sturdy, since 2021 the flex has diminished significantly. The upgrades, apart from the processors and the aerominum marketing jargon look minimal. The 16in look exactly like my Pro, same case and port placement. And no huge gain in weight despite the aerominum story.

LG has announced the new lineup: https://www.lg.com/global/newsroom/news/media-entertainment-solution/lg-electronics-introduces-2026-lg-gram-lineup-elevated-by-aerominum/ I wonder how this "aerominum" will feel and what it will contribute to the overall weight. But basically the lineup is almost the same as the 2025, RTX5050 for discrete GPUs plus the new Panther Lake. I wonder if Intel manages to not mess up the production. I am very very satisfied with my 2025 16in Pro, very silent, quiet and great battery life. It has the 285H and yet it is much quieter and cooler than the 2023 version with the 13th generation boiler for a processor. Just to say that I recommend the 2024 models, they are a real improvement since the 2022 change to higher core count processors.

The 2025 machines are not just more power efficient. Lunar Lake but also Arrow Lake are day and night. They are not produced by Intel but by TMSC, on less than half nanometers than the previous generation, they are much cooler and the Lunar Lake battery that has RAM integrated in the CPU like Apple has the greatest battery life of any Intel processor ever made.

I agree, last year LG introduced the 16in Pro version only with an OLED screen and the same 1800p resolution, also glossy. I would have never bought this version. I am glad that this year the top of the range came back to matte IPS with 1600p, but there are still some versions with the same OLED 1800p screen, Arrow Lake processors and no dGPU. The Lunar Lake versions are all with the same IPS display.

I don't think the cost is the main reason, simply for their consumer versions they are keen to copy the Apple unibody style, regardless of weight, for their workstations they don't care about weight and for the executives the 14in form factor like the X1 Carbon are the ones that attract the R&D investment. The closest Lenovo has done in a lightweight 15in is the X9, but it has no numpad. Dells are heavy as a brick. I think In Korea the Grams are pretty popular in business. LG has focused on this niche, most reviewers always find the Grams "flimsy", they are ignorant, but LG keeps on improving a bit every year. Samsung has also abandoned the very light segment. Acer is ok but is not consistent with its models, it has too many and every year they are a bit different, and they always cut corners (i.e. smalller batteries).

Actually LG has become really cheap in their non Pro line. They use the same chassis, they removed the mini SD card reader and they just plugged the hole on the side. The same basic design since 2021.

The usual matte IPS 2560x1600 with variable refresh rate at 144Hz. It has been the same since 2023 and I am glad they did not go for the glossy OLED of last year's model. At last also they use the latest version of NVDIA GPU so it could be really decent now for games.

Got my hands on it this week, the case is the same I guess as the 2024 Pros and all the pros. Very easy to open to add an ssd. Remove the rubber feet, 4 screws, that's all, no glue, easy and nice. But the internals... The best cooling solution thus far, with beefy heat pipes and big fans. Double the amount of speakers and all these at just 1.3kg. It has the Arrow Lake Core Ultra 9 285H, got 15814 multicore score on Geekbench 6 and 978 on Cinebench R24. Silent most of the time, the fans not disturbing when they are on (except when running the benchmarks at max setting), great performance and at the same time great battery life (I get easily more than 10-11hrs). The perfect Windows laptop.

On the LG site the Arrow Lake models claim 19.5hrs of battery vs 25hrs for the Lunar Lake. But the Arrow Lake are penalized also by the stupid OLED panels. My ideal would be Arrow Lake with IPS non glossy panel.