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I'll not write more about it as it's off topic, but the club of Rome B scenario of doubled resources got conventional oil sources right. Didn't get shale oil and tar sands but they are only short term fix... Copper and silver however we are actually right now approaching the limits of what is fiscally worthy to extract and the "green revolution" is bollocks as the copper and silver is too expensive so it won't happen. Also right now on oil we have an EROI of 12-13%, in 1970 it was 2%. And that's aggregate. New sources are worse while old are better. Once this reaches 30-40% it's game over and won't make sense anymore. We always extract easiest resources first, harder later or never. We are right now reaching the point where whatever replacement gets more difficult or needing more energy to extract arrives just as conventional oil is now on fixed decline. Actually oil extraction will still increase in 2026, maybe even 2027 but thats likely the final time. Prices are too low right now for significant further investment. And we haven't got any suitable replacement seing other resources also getting harder to get. We simply cannot afford expensive oil. World politics right now realises scarcity and US and China try to get resources into their realm, but that doesn't mean they realise what happens when we relatively run out of everything as energy to extract more gets more expensive right at the same time as those resources need significantly more energy to extract. Pollution getting worse, clean drinkable water less per capita. Quality sand running out, and so on... We have some good years left, maybe until 2030, but our financial system built on infinite growth may already collapse before as it needs growth to survive, that's why gold right now is rising and will continue to do so (except if we use it as silver replacement which doesn't make sense we would have way too much - the price is only justified by it's financial mean of money that doesn't inflate, unlike silver which gets used up more than extracted)... We can replace any single component with energy (also pollution), but doing so for everything that gets more rare is impossible. Also club of Rome back then in 1970 calculated an infinite resources scenario which didn't turn out better in the long run, collapse was simply later but therefore harder.. We are right on track with a 3x resources scenario and hitting more or less any marks the model back then predicted.

Can you not change the power limits in advanced bios anymore or with throttlestop?

It the AI bubble bursts everything is gonna burst. It's the last thing keeping our financial system from capsizing.. and it could coincide with many states or supra states like EU stopping to exist... I just had the 2025 - 13th gen 16 inch in my hands and open up and I really didn't feel much of a change at all... So far Lunar lake 16" are still very expensive while the basic 17" have come down quite a lot but still haven't seen one below 1199 Euro including Vat inside Europe... I wonder if we even get down to 1000 Euro this time on lunar lake models. Previous LG gram always went down to 700-800 Euro, sometimes 600 (like the 2025 - 13. Gen Intel model). It won't make sense for me to replace the battery a second time on my 2021 so I have about 6-7 months left to wait for prices to come down.

The prices will increase by 50% right? That's what I understood from the Korean video.. this is basically the first time since many years that they changed the laptop and not only some small improvements... Last year was Lunar lake/arrow lake which was a huge improvement, this year it's the rest. Speakers are much bigger too. Sad thing is the price will be outrageous at least for Intel models. I think the non pro sticks with old magnesium chassis right?

Remember it's only full HD display. That saves a lot of GPU/CPU power of higher resolution. Also video playback is something Intel long dialled. Surfing the internet while using keyboard and touchpad and so on is far more demanding.. In tests lunar lake clearly bet arrow lake in this regard. But arrow lake has more multi core power.

I need more battery life. Arrow lake has loads of power but isn't good on idle/low power stuff just like surfing the net or writing documents. Yes arrow lake is already pretty good under high load and a step up. 11-13. Gen were basically identical just more power for more heat... So far sadly haven't seen a 16" below 1300 euros and a 17 below 1200 euros.. Yeah many components not only ram are increasing in price. It it's again supposed to hold 5 years with a single battery replacement I need the Lunar lake. I guess panther will be fine too, but cannot justify the prices. By now I'm actually just waiting for a 32GB ram model to get below 1200 Euros. World is running out of resources be it oil or metals like silver and copper. I fear this is gonna be the last laptop I buy in my life as modernity will collapse around 2030 I expect. I wonder if the 2026 oled models are already having the new subpixel layout that improves text rendering a lot. LG announced them a month ago or so, but I don't remember which resolutions were gonna come first. That would be a big step up for Oled.

Yep right now buying anything else by intel if not at a steep discount really doesn't make sense. If you need a lot of power, it's still AMD, If great battery life then lunar lake.. AMD in theory could still be better about battery life, but Intel simply still has the better ecosystem around the processor so lunar lake effectively edges out most similar AMD models. I'll get an LG gram once prices in offers for a lunar lake are around 900-950 Euros. Or maybe go for something similar by Asus and by it straight in Taiwan where prices are better in general just not for the grams.

You found them with oled? 16Z90RU-G.AA55G For example is just the 2023 model with a new name, it sold for 700 euros so it's a good deal for people not needing something new or with great battery life. 100% they just dug out old stock maybe reserved for warranty or whatever. If battery life is important need actual 2025 model. The battery life went downhill from 2022 and onwards Vs 2021 as intel didn't get it done. Finally at tsmc things improved!

Take the cap off and put it back on for those keys. But basically after trying that a couple of times and getting it back to work for a few weeks it means exchanging the keyboard which is isn't easy as you can read on the previous page. I think it's just the life over of the switches. E will be the most likely to break due to heaviest use in most western languages

It's slowly getting time for replacement - the next default: my top USB-C port isn't charging anymore. The case is slowly warping more as well (the lower part as the upper part is still quite new)... But I'm pretty confident it will survive 5-6 more months until replacement with the current Gen at affordable price. Battery on the other hand has recovered a bit again at 172 full cylcles back to 68.000mWh.. Looking like it will make it to 5 years (well with exchanged keyboard and exchanged battery and exchanged fan). I also feel like the overall brightness isn't where it was when it was new. I usually need to run it now at 90-100% instead of 80% when it was new during the day.

Too small battery, too low resolution, bad keyboard.... It's not really an alternative. My gram is showing its age more and more. Casing kinda would need replacement, USB-C ports getting unreliable, and so on. But gonna wait for sub 1000 Euro pricing on lunar lake gram... Still no other laptop of mine ever survived more than 4 years (had 4 years exactly on Lenovo t440s and around 4 years once on a Dell latitude, now my gram is 4 years 4 months). I do wonder neither Dell not Lenovo try a clone. Samsung has a pretty similar model however. It's a bit more suited to home Vs business use however.

The new battery is dropping fast - now at 147 cycles it's already down to 66.000mWh, the original one I exchanged at 60.000 or so. Seems the main problem is simply aging and even if getting a new original battery as they were produced long time ago - it's a disaster. I found out that Windows 11 completely reset any battery related settings in the registry, so after redoing them battery life got better again, but yeah it's still inferior to Windows 10. Well I guess one more year on the Gram then I will upgrade to a new one. LG from time to time really dumps the old ones at cheap prices.

Updating to Windows 11 I had to notice that nearly all registry settings concerning power saving had been reset and battery life was really really poor. Even worse plugged in it idled at around 11w. Redid all settings and uninstalled all the AI, copilot and whatever stuff plus disabled again loads of windows services I'm down to idling at 3w package power plugged in and the old 0.8w on battery (had been up to 3-4w). The problem is my 11th gen intel doesn't go into lower than C3 if an external monitor is connected/lan is connected via usb-c... With poor coling this really stresses the battery... But whatever I do - Windows 11 is a slouch vs 10. I have a very potent server that now needs 20% more time on an intel 13th gen CPU all else equal vs on Windows 10 on the same tasks. The supposedly improved big/little workload has gone down the hill (with 10 I could manually set tasks to either big or little cores and this doesn't work reliably anymore under 11... Too bad 10 is reaching EOL.

hmm no, 11 stays a piece of shit. My battery life is way worse and not improving. However it's even worse on a compile server I use. That one runs on Intel 13500 CPU, and the main compilation task now runs for 36 hours instead of 25 hours using Bills Process Manager to kinda make sure parallized tasks get moved to big cores for priority, and small cores for unimportant stuff and OS. Under Windows 11 that doesn't work well at all, but the default scheduler is still much worse then the Windows 10 default scheduler. On windows 10 it ran for 28 hours with default scheduler, vs 32 hours on 11. What a piece of trash. I already debloated a lot but I can see that 11 just messes around loads. And yeah antivirus is deactivated on both 10 and 11, because with antivirus active I can add another couple of hours... (compiling stuff with java and packing with 7zip). That speed is just disastrous. I have sadly some things that don't run under Linux, but on Linux the main part of the compilation was like 21 hours only... Problem is - I don't want to be left out on security updates - so there is no way to stay on 10. But for my use cases 11 clearly is rubbish compared to 10. Both on my server as well as on my laptop. The irony of this was that 11 was supposed to work better with little.big cores, but clearly it doesn't and it seems to even interfere with bills process manager that simply can be set up smarter than the automatic windows scheduler. And yeah that scheduler improved somehow, but the additional bloat just cannot be avoided. And yeah I didn't invest much time into debloating 11 yet, and did so considerably for 10. However I updated which should mean most settings stay the same. If I didn't have some software that I need to use that runs on windows only, I would long be Ubuntu only. It's just faster, no thinking about bloat, and way more stable (yeah BSOD are very rare now on windows, some small hiccups and problems quite common however). So the new lg grams must have improved quite a bit if they manage good battery life under 11. I'm pretty sure however AMD is not far behind or same level as Intel. AMD caught up on problems like wifi, bluetooth and so on just being more efficient vs Intel - while Intel still packages themselves instead of full TSMC production (which I'm sure is still better). So intel likely still is a tiny bit better on firmware vs AMD when it comes to low load / idle. I would not want to have an ARM based laptop, as there is again loads of legacy software I need often. Without that I think Gram would be no option for me as I would chose a snapdragon laptop...Since 1 year they really do work well for general use cases (not quite Apple level however - but I cannot work from prison so apple is a nogo for me.

Yeah hard to say where it would end up with IPS. I'm not sure how good the current OLEDs are for text. I kinda would like IPS Black 2.0 technology. That's by LG and how comes they don't use it on their LG gram? It's absolutely the best for 27/32 office displays. Doubling to Trippling the contrast does a lot. Actually I just upgraded my old lg gram to windows 11 , and clearly battery life suffered a lot. It just uses more and I tried already quite some optimization to little help. But yeah there is no help but to upgrade to 11 as 10 support is running out. 11 really is a PITA and I see no single improvement yet...

Well the Lunar lake version looks like a perfect upgrade for me once it is sold for 1000 euros or so. Until then my 2021 will survive. This is actually the first LG gram to match the battery lifetime of the 2021 version, which isn't surprising as it was all the same intel node 2021-2024 and intel added more power being pressured by AMD. Arrow lake loses how much Vs lunar lake on battery life? I guess it's still second best for Intel and only slightly worse than Lunar lake? It's really hard to find same laptop with both processors to compare. Tsmc simply is a huge step forward. I'm sure in real life the battery life is even more ahead Vs the Notebookcheck numbers on wlan testing. And it makes sense to go with IPS for Lunar lake and oled for arrow lake. Actually I think the Lunar lake gram is the first one since a decade to actually beat the MacBook. Macbook still has best display for a laptop imho. It's a shame LG or others don't manage to source microled panels.

The thing is that this is very likely no contact problem. Not gonna invest much I to it. By now the new keyboard and front assembly got a big crack, likely from strapping the laptop with high force inside a duffel bag onto a mule. Kinda snapped. 3-4cm long on the front and through the hole side and some mm on the back. Also one of the 4 main screws Holding the laptop together in the lower right corner the fixation where the screw screws into broke into pieces.. but yeah that's all cosmetic and laptop still going strong... I do think I won't replace it before March 2026 when I will buy a lunar lake gram or similar to replace it. 5 years will be a new record for me to keep a laptop. Yeah the ThinkPad Ts series was more sturdy but the gram is overall better for me.

It's not only about idle but much more about small workloads like surfing where it really matters

I'm pretty sure with lunar lake battery runtime will be 50-80% longer. With arrow lake 40-50% longer. They should be really way better especially on low load.

I don't get why you didn't wait another couple of months and then get an lunar or arrow lake version. Imho processor wise intel hasn't improved from 2021 to 2024 and now it's really a huge step up again. Well for me at least battery life is always the number 1 priority on a laptop, and therefore I'm really looking forward to Lunar lake lg gram. Yeah cutting 4k video is stretching it on the 2021. But besides that I just use a server to do whatever is needed that really needs computing power. Cannot be bothered to keep a desktop for those things. I'm in Taiwan right now and the 2025 have already hit the shelves.

I paid 120 Euros or so for a new battery by the official lg retailer in Austria. It came degraded though with 76wh instead of 80wh specified. I guess due to lying around for a couple of years.

When idle I get down to 0.7w. Battery capacity after 1 year dropped from 76 to 72mAH (yeah I guess the original LG batteries through the official LG reseller in Austria - are a bit older nowadays). The problem is that even with a lot of cleaning up of processes and so on - Windows just constantly loads 2-3w of power on the CPU even when idle. This has gotten much worse year for year with Windows 10. In the first 2-3 years 10 was pretty sleek - now basically just with standard updates it got very bloated and just moving the mouse the SOC power goes up to 2-3w. Also both Chrome and Edge bloated up in consumption. 3-4 years ago the edge nightlies with the battery saving modes worked great, once it got into the trunk edge a lot of those savings had been removed, until 1-2 years ago I noticed now Chrome runs more efficient vs edge and switched back. I guess the only way is to go for Intel Lunar Lake or up to date AMD. With the bloating of browsers and windows - it needs a much more efficient cpu/mainboard. Yeah - not sure about Windows 11, 2 years ago I downgraded back to 10 after 5 days because it was draining more battery plus horrible UI. I still need 2-3 programs that don't work on Linux regularly, Otherwise I would go for Ubuntu. By now Ubuntu runs with much better battery efficiency on the Gram vs Windows 10. Oh yeah - and no antivirus at all. That would drain even more. Oh yeah - old battery I think if I remember correctly worked pretty well up to 500 full cycles. But I think summer use each year for 2-3 months at 30-35° and winter use every year once for 10 days or so at -10° did strain the battery a bit. I think I replaced it with 56maH and 600 cycles or so. Up to 500 cycles it had barely degraded, from then it went downhill fast. But that also shows to me - restricting at 80% is not my cup of tea. After 3 years I pop in a new battery (that likely was produced some years ago as it cannot hold as much charge as original when new) and that could do another 2-3 years. But then I think in 1 year of time it will be a Lunar Lake LG gram. Actually I have never before used a laptop longer than the LG Gram before. However I also never replaced so many parts. This may be less to the quality of the LG, but more that upgrading to new technology is less and less regular needed as improvements each generation get smaller and smaller. Actually for intel CPU to me 11-14th generation is all the same. Only with Lunar Lake have they finally produced a package that is actually better than 11. gen. Yeah there is no AMD Ryzen to all our dismay. But for me Intel Lunar Lake is a tiny notch above the current Ryzen platform. My Lenovo T440s made it nearly 4 years (until I replaced it with a T480s that I used less than 2 years as it just wasn't a really good laptop). But durability on the Thinkpads was a little above LG. The LG is superb for it's lightweigt package however, and for me overally better than Thinkpads. The keyboard on the LG is not up to older Thinkpads (especially in durability). And yeah other stuff like enclosure or the fan is also a bit flimsy over time. I didn't treat my Thinkpads better - though I didn't use them as much on battery and never as much in really hot countries without aircon...

So, by now also replaced the fan. A new one was 33€ from Aliexpress including shipping. My new front cover has a crack besides the keyboard - it doesn't matter much I think however. happened while trekking and stuffing the laptop into the carry bags for the support animals. Yeah - my gram has to take a lot of abuse... I'm not happy about the new battery - it somehow just doesn't achieve that great runtimes anymore. 8-9 hours realistically it is. Maybe windows is just using more and more resources and I haven't done a fresh install ever (but cleaning up programs, autostarts, whatever). And lunar lake gram still isn't released. I guess I have to wait at least another year for decent price for lunar lake gram. Then besides the battery life I don't see a reason to upgrade yet anyhow - nearly 4 years in now - so overall it held up really well. Never had a laptop over 4.5 years before. Next default is - the lower left corner screw system - meaning the thread you screw in the screw was into pieces when I opened it. So one screw less....

I'm pretty sure a computer contains enough metal. Induction hobs power on automatically, but it's the metal on top that heats up. So the only detection is that if there is no metal on top. Needs to be magnetic metals, so alumium doesn't work. I'm pretty sure any laptop would be fried within seconds! But yeah you can place your hand on an induction hob no worries if it isn't hot yet. I really prefer gas. Induction hob destroys your frying pans if you try to heat full power without water to disperse the heat quickly or loads of oil. And while they heat up much faster than the old coil/infrared ones - they don't cool down as fast as gas as the glas plate keeps residual heat. Damn, I really hate kitchen stoves without a big gas flame for cooking with a proper Wok... No wonder basically all professional kitchens/cooks still use gas. Not to mention that virtually all induction hobs come with touchscreen panels that once wet cannot be controlled and switch off. The worst usability ever mainstream in a kitchen....

I wrote about the same problem. However I thought it happened when I put the LG Gram on a hot kitchen stove. Could be unrelated to that incident too. For me nothing shows up in device manager - however if I insert a card device manager refreshes but doesn't show any other defice. I also booted up Ubuntu from USB and it wouldn't find the card reader - so it's clearly dead and no software issue - and as something refreshes I'm pretty sure it's not dirt either. Tried cleaning it already. The cable doubles up for the power button or was it keyboard backlight - if that is the problem there are more problems if I remember it correctly (yeah the power button cable is really finicky on attachment). (to be more exact, I put the gram on the oven when it was cold and got the wrong knob switching on the plate with the Gram instead of the one with my food and only noticed 1min later when it smelled like burnt plastic. Lucky it wans't induction hob as those would have fried way more I guess).