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Maybe stating the obvious but I recommend to keep the screen just a bit open as temps will be better. I usually shoot for two ca. 1 to 1.5" foam pieces at the front to create a gap where the warm air from the keyboard deck can get out. I am doing that with all my laptops when their screen isn't used and it certainly makes a difference.
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New M18 cooling pad.
1610ftw replied to Popcan's topic in Alienware X14 / 15 /17 / M15 / 17 R5+ 2021+
You need to activate the AW overclocking as otherwise clocks are too low. You should at the minimum be able to do something llike 46 / 38 all cores on this unit. Here is what looks like a good guide for Throttlestop: Here you find some discussion regarding the AW overclocking, looks like a pita to me. The good news is that it still seems to work for your model but do not play with core isolation as that may break Throttlestop functionality:- 19 replies
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New M18 cooling pad.
1610ftw replied to Popcan's topic in Alienware X14 / 15 /17 / M15 / 17 R5+ 2021+
Sorry, have to pass here but indeed you should first confirm that the overclocking is activated and what the recommended firmware is, could already be mentioned in one of the threads on here. Throttlestop allows to undervolt indeed and it also has a window view that will allow you to check power uptake during a CB run. In any case you can do both things in parallel. What I like about Throttlestop is that it shows you power uptake in real time and maximum uptake, too. So you can see how high it goes at most and also when it throttles down. AWCC used to be an abomination and I eliminated it from my 51m R1. Not sure how bad it is today but you may want to look into it possibly holding you back or causing weird issues.- 19 replies
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New M18 cooling pad.
1610ftw replied to Popcan's topic in Alienware X14 / 15 /17 / M15 / 17 R5+ 2021+
About the throttling: Get Throttlestop and check how much power you can sustain on the CPU, should be about 160W long term and at least 200W for a single run of CB R23. That is with internal fans only and no help from the cooling pad. Just lift the rear of the laptop by at least an inch for additional ventilation. I use a Ringke folding stand that I also travel with but there are other options, too. Next thing to do would be to undervolt and then you should get at least 35000 in a single run with 99C prochot.- 19 replies
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New M18 cooling pad.
1610ftw replied to Popcan's topic in Alienware X14 / 15 /17 / M15 / 17 R5+ 2021+
Wow - that fan noise does not sound sustainable! I would not be surprised if your liquid metal application is not that grest - it happened before.- 19 replies
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New M18 cooling pad.
1610ftw replied to Popcan's topic in Alienware X14 / 15 /17 / M15 / 17 R5+ 2021+
Newegg probably thought that it must be 2x8 as 1x16 makes zero sense 😄 Yep those 4 core CPUs were cooled very well, 70s at most.- 19 replies
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New M18 cooling pad.
1610ftw replied to Popcan's topic in Alienware X14 / 15 /17 / M15 / 17 R5+ 2021+
I am sure it will have some effect but much less so than a more open design where such a cooler would blow cool air directly onto the heatsink. I have a 51m R1 and it suffers from the same issue - much worse cooling with a bottom cooling pad than for example an MSI laptop that have the heatpipes exposed at the bottom with plenty of cooling. MSI had such a design from the GT73 to the GT76, they were very well suited for cooling pads. By the way: I had to laugh: I really like the GT73/75 chassis from MSI but I also have a GT75 with a single memory stick on the other side of the motherboard - pricks 😄- 19 replies
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Clevo X580 TBA at CES 2025 - 18", 4+4 drives and memory, 2xTB5
1610ftw replied to 1610ftw's topic in Sager & Clevo
Yep he does but he is talking about the Neo which is the Tongfang chassis. Key = Clevo 18" = 330W PSU Neo = Tongfang 16" = 420W PSU - biggest stock laptop PSU from what I know As @win32asmguy says this will cost more than the X370 but it is also improved compared to it: at least slightly better cooling more drive slots more memory better audio with a dedicated sub bigger screen two high refresh rate high resolution screen options -
Clevo X580 TBA at CES 2025 - 18", 4+4 drives and memory, 2xTB5
1610ftw replied to 1610ftw's topic in Sager & Clevo
To my my knowledge the hinges mainly were an issue with earlier models and even those were usually not top of the line. Recently they have made improvements to the hinge design of the lower tier, too so you should be safe with at least anything from the Vector series upwards. -
It should be safe once in place but you have to be careful to assure it stays in place while mounting the heatsink. In my testing (air only) I was not happy with the performance of these sheets compared to my phase change solution so I only use them for testing and nothing else. If you feel uneasy about conductive TIM then use PTM7950 pads - non-conductive, great longevity and great temperatures: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ptm7950 I have not seen degradation since the first units I used them for - no pump-out, no drying out.
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Clevo X580 TBA at CES 2025 - 18", 4+4 drives and memory, 2xTB5
1610ftw replied to 1610ftw's topic in Sager & Clevo
Please note that the water cooling option is only for the 16" Uniwill / TongFang chassis. Best air cooling this gen will probably be MSI or Aorus with their vapor chambers but Clevo offers the only 4+4 memory / drive option and it also is the only one that would not look out of place in a professional setting. -
Clevo X580 TBA at CES 2025 - 18", 4+4 drives and memory, 2xTB5
1610ftw replied to 1610ftw's topic in Sager & Clevo
Have a look here starting at 1:15:00: Looks to me as if it may just fit. By the way that is a pretty cool video that I recommend watching for people interested in both the water-cooled 16" model and the new 18" workstation. -
I have found that removing a heatsink when it is still relatively warm is easier. So now when I have to do that with a socketed system I just heat up the CPU and GPU and then it is much easier to get the heat sink off.
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So I finally got around to read the whole 4 part review with google translator. That is a very thorough review and a lot more in depth than anything else I have ever read. I would recommend it to everybody who owns or is thinking about buying one of these top of the line MSI units, be it the X18, the Raider 18 HX or the Titan 18!
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What MaxxD said. Or get PTM7950 sheets for maximum longevity.