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Hope you get to the bottom of this as your GPU temps at only 140W do indeed seem excessive. Can you check which temperatures you end up with in Time Spy? In my experience its max temps are a better indicator for temps you may find in gaming and I am curious how much lower they would be than your Furmark temperatures. Just checked a run I did with an XMG P775 with the 9900K and it went up to 62C tops with an almost 11K score but if I had to guess it is possible that I kept the bottom cover off and I always prop up the back by about 5cm with a folding stand.

Thanks for taking those measurements - at least 322W is no problem for the power supply provided that it is not defective.. Your temps seem quite hot and I suggest you get those temps sorted out first, as with a total power uptake of less than 200W your GPU probably only consumes 150W and it should be a lot cooler at 150W. With a card that old I would shoot for 70C max for the GPU and 85C for the VRAM when gaming and then take it from there and replace only when these conditions have been met and it is still acting up. If you are not sure what to do you could either improve the existing pads and add some PTM7950 or you could get some thermal putty which is a bit more forgiving but also more of a mess:

So I checked and 80W can be sustained with a 10 minute CB R23 loop. Due to the anemic fan speeds the CPU reaches up to 99C I made a quick check with lower limits and I arrived at around 95C with 75W and 90C with 70W power limit. I also checked 55W and that is more like 80C and the fans ramp down already with that power target. That is all with the laptop closed and including the GPU and with the back propped up by about 4cm for better airflow.

Last thing about Eurocom from me: In the end it was almost comical to see how they weasled themselves out of doing the right thing. It was not about a big amount of money and I shudder to think what would have happened if I had bought something really expensive from them. Looking at your GPU it is clear that paying attention to the pad thickness and choosing the right pads seems to be quite involved and makes me consider to finally try my thermal putty that I have sitting arround for quite some time now - if only it wasn't so messy.

First off, glad you got it solved! I think there are a bunch of issues at work here and it would be really cool if somebody could put his power-brick into some kind of watt-o-meter and measure real power draw at the wall. From what I recall the old power bricks that were rated for 330W could go up to 400W and I am not sure how realistic it is to sustain even 330W for any length of time, certainly rather improbable with stock cooling. As you mentioned Eurocom I thought it was clear that I meant them. Personally I didn't have the best experience with their hardware and a software purchase turned out to be a real dumpster fire of a customer experience.

I wanted to post this earlier but it took me some time to remember the context I had seen it in. Before anybody buys a motherboard from a certain company on ebay that I and others have not had the best experiences with please consider the original design of the P775. Especially with a GPU pulling 200W it is easy to see how there would be problems considering the official 250W combined CPU and GPU limit for this chassis that you can see here in comparison to the X170: source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Clevo-to-release-monster-17-inch-X170-gaming-laptops-powered-by-Intel-s-Comet-Lake-S-10-core-desktop-grade-CPUs.453755.0.html So as @Khenglish points out the embedded controller will most probably cause a shutdown at some point given the relatively low combined TDP and no new motherboard or 780W power supply will change that.

Wow - I am impressed 🙂 I will have a look at my Zbook 17 G6 later to let you know what I can get in temperature and sustained watts over a 10 minute CB R23 run. Unfortunately no Intel XTU for me due to the stupid locked down bios. The 5000 is a very nice card - I only have the 4000.

That is indeed interesting and another design fail. Unfortunately my Zbook 17 G6 is also the one laptop that empties its battery in record time when not connected and I haven't had time to get to the bottom of it. The fan curve is really stupid. I suggest to get PWM7950 for it to keep temps as low as possible but even then the fan curve is severely limiting power due to its emphasis of silence over anything else. If you ran updates already then it probably does not matter any more but if you haven't you should block bios updates in device manager as previous bios versions would allow third party fan control and undervolting via Throttlestop or Intel XTU but HP took all of that away in later bios. What I would do to mitigate issues further is to use Intel XTU in order to limit maximum CPU power to something like 75 or 80W and you can also try to limit the hottest cores to lower max clock speeds - usually the 9850H will run very hot on a core or too which will cause it to throttle a lot faster than needed. If that is not possible you can still use Throttlestop to limit maximum power to the CPU and again I would go for 75 or 80W as that will give you a more even user experience than the spiking that you get when power is ramping up to 100W. I am also not sure if it is possible to go back to an earlier bios but I am lucky in that I am in a situation where I do not have to risk going back as my use case is such that I can live with the current fan curve. This is a magnificent chassis with very bad software and on top of that is is also completely locked down in the final bios version which is a worst case combination. Because of that it will also be my last HP laptop for now until I see that they have a design that has great hardware AND software.

Which CPU do you have and what are your settings in power options? You want max CPU power at 100% at least when connected to power. Even at 99% the turbo boost will be disabled and it may be that this is happening and/or you are stuck in power saving mode. At 2.9GHz you probably have the Xeon E-2286M?

Xeons are history since Intel started with big / small CPUs so not sure if you are serious? 🙂 You should look at the Legion 9i for this gen - it has the keyboard, GPU and screen that you want and it is also a more powerful machine that won't drain the battery while you are gaming.

Sorry to hear about your experience - having to send the SSD to Taiwan really sucks! BUT: At least TeamGroup is one of the companies that extends its warranty to people who buy their SSDs second hand while with others you get nothing when one of their SSDs break. At least this is the case over here for companies like Corsair, Crucial, Lexar and Samsung. The best case would be owner agnostic warranty in combination with a service address in the country where the drive was purchased. I think that where I live (Germany) this may only apply to Seagate SSDs.

Oh, that is bad. You should definitely not have these issues with only a wireless mouse attached to it. Better give Dell a call, they may need to replace it.

is this a setup with external monitors or something else that is connected via Thunderbolt? My X580 does not play nice with my Thunderbolt gear and also crashes but no issues when no Thunderbolt connection is active.

Yes that is possibly true about the manual fan control and I guess that I could live with fans that are as well behaved as the ones in that I had in the 7760. Sorry to hear that you could not get the locking issue fixed. It inspires little confidence to see all of that happening with the workstation that potentially is the most powerful between the big three manufacturers.

It is a sorry state of things that the big three workstation laptop manufacturers Dell, HP and Lenovo seem to have no way to manually control their fans. At least Dell used to be decent when it comes too keeping fans quiet most of the time while not reducing power. HP seems to have an issue going back to the early Zbooks and to a lesser degree Lenovo, too.