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Hello, all. I have a question about Windows 11: it recently started pushing for me to install version 24H2, but I've read that it may still have some issues. Has anyone tried it on X170KM-G? As some may recall, I have the EON17-X (2021) version of the system, which came with Windows 11 Pro pre-installed. The computer's been running fine, and the update does not seem to be mandatory yet, but it has been appearing constantly over the last couple of days as a "reminder". I've dismissed it, but Microsoft will eventually make it a requirement, I suspect, so if anyone has installed it, some information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any pointers. EDIT on December 12, 2024: I wanted to know if there was anything specific about the 24H2 update to Windows 11 for this particular computer, thinking there were minor issues with this version of Win11, but I've now read what has been posted elsewhere, and in other subforums here on Notebooktalk, and boy is this update a freak show... so I'm avoiding it like the plague, at least for now.
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Though I have fiddled with the BIOSes of other machines (I have yet to flash a new one on my X170KM-G, I've only unlocked what it has), I think you will have to be more specific about exactly which BIOS you are talking about --- I suggest you include the link to the exact post by Sergey Muratov from which you got the BIOS --- I don't recall exactly, but he may have posted more than one download file, but still, even if it's only one BIOS he posted, you need to provide more info so others have a better understanding of what's going on. You have to be VERY CAREFUL when changing BIOS settings. As I've said, I've done things with the BIOS on OTHER computers (not the X170KM), and even then I was never so adventurous as to change many things before completely understanding what I was doing. It is important to document yourself about anything you want to change, the more the better, and not change anything even when believe you've understood something, not until you are absolutely sure you know what you are doing. It's TOO EASY to mess things up. Your description of what your friend did lacks any detail, so I would suspect something was changed before fully knowing what your friend was doing. Again, if you want help, you will have to provide more details about what was done, I suspect. It sounds to me like you have bricked your computer. Chances are you will have to reflash a good BIOS with a EEPROM programmer --- which means doing it with hardware, as you are no longer able to access the computer's systems. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be curt, but I'm afraid I can't sugar coat what seems to me to be bad news. I believe you may recover your notebook, but it will likely not be easy. I think it's doable, but it will probably be a bit of a headache. Who knows, maybe someone else here may have better news and better advice. Good luck.
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Thanks! This should come in handy. But will this work with any of the several OEM motherboards? Somewhere in the thread somebody posted that Origin PC's motherboards (for the EON17-X which is their version of the X170KM-G, and it's the one I have) may be slightly modified by them. (It was just one sentence in a paragraph in a post but I don't remember who wrote it.) I believe @kela-slk also has one of these Origin notebooks, and I think a couple of more people have also said they have one. I will give the write-up a good read in any case. I want to flash a different BIOS to be able to use 128GB of ram, but besides not having time to do recently as I've been using the computer, I am a tad reluctant to try it because if a new BIOS doesn't work, I may need to use an eeprom programmer to reflash the same BIOS I have now.
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I recommend you either search the thread for answers, or read through it --- I asked some questions before, only to later realize some of them had been answered in previous replies. I know it's a long read, and it took me two, or three, or maybe even four days to go through it, but I think you will find it worthwhile. Your questions about monitors are addressed in several places. As for backing up the OEM BIOS, I have not seen anyone give a software version of doing so in this whole thread. You will likely need an eeprom reader and do it that way. Otherwise, the link with the Clevo BIOS I provided to you has the closest to the latest OEM BIOS --- but I don't know whether it will have options (like logos, or other artwork, for example) for every different manufacturer's X170KM-G motherboard, but it's essentially the same for all of them. So other than using an eeprom reader to read the BIOS chips directly, I don't think you have an option to backup your particular machine's. You DON'T need to remove the chips, you just need some clips for the particular chips the motherboard has --- I haven't checked, but they're usually SOIC8 or SOP8, and the clips clamp on the terminals of the chips, though that may require a few tries.
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May I now ask you a favor? If you flash the Sager bios, would you tell me how it goes? I haven't had a chance to do so myself, being busy with other stuff, and I don't want to rush it and make a mistake because of it. (Among other things, I have a lot of stuff that I've had to migrate to the EON17-X from my old GT72, and I've been copying things from the SSDs directly, since my GT72 is on the fritz for now, so I can't use my home network to transfer them, so this has taken a lot of my time, among other things.)
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Look, you seem to be complaining, that's why @1610ftw mentioned something about your tone --- in a lighthearted fashion, I think. Relax. Also, I did mention I could share what I was given; you could have messaged me, as I am a tad busy and just kept on forgetting --- I wasn't ignoring you, just that there are other preoccupations on my mind. Here you have the link for the Sager BIOS that @crz shared with me. And here is the link for the Clevo BIOS (and a bunch of other stuff) that also @crz shared. Tell me if they work, just in case the permissions weren't set properly for the links.
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I have that same PC, but I don't have the OEM bios. @crz put a link to the Clevo 1.07.08 file above, which should work fine, but I don't know if the link is still working. I have the file, but I would need to upload it somewhere to provide a link, so I would need to check how to share something on Google Drive. But I don't think this is quite the OEM bios. But on that related note: sometime in the next few days, I will probably try to flash the Sager X170KM-G08 bios he (@crz) also provided, but I have a question: I want to keep the original start up logo that comes with the OEM bios. Is there a way to do so? I like the Origin PC logo, and if it's possible to keep it, that would be great. It's not a deal breaker if I can't, but it would be very nice, I think it's rather snazzy.
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Oh, my bad, I got confused a bit there. It's the Clevo firmware in the link you posted above, right? My mind has been wandering all over the place, since I've been a little busy, but next week things should calm down, when the semester is finally over (I work at a university, and things are winding down for the summer), so at least that will be one less thing to worry about. Thank you very much for your help, and I will keep you all posted 🙂
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Thank you so much. I was looking for info in the winraid.level1techs.com forums, but I found very little, except a mention of the Insyde Win Flash tool, but no link to it, and the Insyde webpage is pretty much advertisements of their products, and no download links that I could find. I was checking those out mostly because I wanted to dump the BIOS to have a backup. (I mentioned earlier that I have a USB EEPROM reader/writer that I can use with some clips to read/write onto the BIOS chips without the need to desolder them, but for that I need another computer and my GT72 is still on the fritz [I'm waiting for a replacement motherboard, and since it's from China it's taking it's sweet time to get here].) The Clevo UEFI will be a good backup at the very least, but the flashing utilities and the instructions are a necessity in any case.
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Hello, once again. I downloaded the file, but I have to ask, even if I sound like a complete noob, how do I go about flashing the Sager X170KM-G08 bios from the file? That is, if I decide to go for it, of course. Is it flashable from within the Insyde bios, or do I need a Windows or Linux utility? I have, or can make a live USB stick if the latter is the case, no problem there, but I'm a little confused by the contents of the downloaded ZIP file.
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Thank you very much. This time I was still around as you posted this, so I grabbed the file as fast as I could 😁
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Sorry, I got busy with other stuff, and did not see your further reply. Unfortunately the link is no longer available, as you can see in the picture below, but thank you. I will still read the article once I have a chance --- other stuff has come up, and I need to take care of that first. Thank you for the suggestion, but unfortunately I'm tapped out for the time being. I will certainly consider it very seriously once I have money again. Actually I was considering precisely getting a chip with 10 cores sometime later on, so your post is kind of serendipitous 🙂
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OK, thanks for the info, and for the link. I'll consider your suggestion --- and the warning. I can do a BIOS backup, and though I do have a USB EEPROM programmer if push comes to shove, at this moment I'll have to check and see if the BIOS chips the computer has are supported, just in case a need to physically reflash the BIOS becomes necessary. In any case, I will do a lot of reading before I try anything potentially dangerous --- and by "dangerous" I mean doing something I don't understand well enough.
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I've decided to make another post instead of amending the previous one. I put the two extra RAM sticks that I received yesterday on the two remaining slots to have 128GB total. But I don't know what the system is doing: it'll turn on, but it'll just light-up the keyboard, but nothing will show up on the screen. It stayed like that for a minute or so, and then it would shut down. I later then decided to unlock the BIOS (as described in the corresponding post by ViktorV) --- of course, I had to remove the extra RAM to be able to have access to the notebook. It all went down fine. But after tinkering with some memory settings in it (and not really knowing what I was doing), and then reinserting the extra two SODIMMs under the keyboard, the system would turn on the same way as before, but it just stayed there for many minutes with the screen all black, and doing nothing more --- but it didn't automatically turn off after a while, I had to push the power switch after waiting for quite a while. I've removed the extra RAM sticks, which are working fine by themselves in the slots underneath the notebook (the other set of two I originally bought which were there are safely stored for now), so I know the two sets of pairs work fine by themselves --- I am typing this post on the X170KM-G right now. This is what CPU-z reports about the memory (slot #3 is identical to slot #1), so if I understood correctly, it should be capable of running at 2933 MTs, and in the store page it is implied that it should automatically run at 2666, 2933, or 3200 depending on the system, and I assumed the system would try to run the memory at one of those speeds, so I am bit confused --- I admit I only have superficial knowledge about how RAM interacts with the system, so I don't know if I'm supposed to actually do something, or even if I'm able to do so. Any help would be much appreciated. I mean, it's not a deal breaker if I'm "stuck" with 64GB of RAM, but it's kind of a shame to have the other two sticks just stored away, and if there is a way to have the 128GB up and running at 2933 MTs it would be rather nice.
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A couple of days ago I ordered another two sticks of the same memory as in this link that I posted previously. They should arrive today. I will report how the notebook behaves after I add them a little later today --- I'm hoping there's no delay in the delivery. I'm really curious to see how the computer handles 128GB of RAM. EDIT: As I finished typing this, the memory sticks arrived. I will put them in the system a bit later today for sure.
