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I'm sure the results for 4000 series graphics cards would be better if nvidia bothered spend some time with the drivers for EOL cards. Same also for even older 3000 series. Game developers are recommending GeForce RTX 40 Series owners roll back to drivers from 2024 https://www.tweaktown.com/news/104313/game-developers-are-recommending-geforce-rtx-40-series-owners-roll-back-to-drivers-from-2024/index.html Yup, the direction for modern tech goes the wrong way... If I remember correct... The mobile 5090 have less cores than 5080 desktop cards. And you get jokebooks with soldered on 5090@95W GeForce RTX 5090 laptops are a whopping 50 percent slower than the desktop RTX 5090

20% above MSRP would mean $2400 for the best 5090. Custom flagship cards should never be priced above that from any AIB partners. Yep, could been cheaper for customized cards but that is NVIDIA's faulth. And the cheaper Gpu SKUs as etc 5070 I would say $50 premium for the better custom cards. 10-15% for the flagship cards in between 5070 and 5090. Or ideally 10% markup for all of them. And with Nvidia reducing already high MSRP. But this will never happen with nvidia. If the AI bubble blow of (bursts).... Gamers will have to pay even more for Geforce graphics cards. Not less.

I often buy used cards. They all have their flaws. And more expensive doesn't justify the massive price increase. As said before... Up to 20% mark up is acceptable if the product stands out in the bunch of trash. Yup I use the phrase trash, because awesome doesn't exist in the real world. Maximize the profits margins will always destroy otherwise great products. Lets take the 4090 Matrix from Asus. Fantastic design, binned chips (yup thats correct)....But failed hard with a pure copper coldplate with liquid metal attached. How stupid... And that card cost $1400 USD above 4090 Strix. Imagine that... The temps would be almost equal if they used nickel plated copper. So this wasn't the reason for the cheaper choice. If I buy new... I buy what people want in the used market here home. I see what sell out fast when its used. This way I can get back some of the extra money spent. I don't see this Asus card as a collector item. Nothing special with the Astral cards. Just a new name SKU to increase the already high ROG price point. Regarding the high prices above MSRP. Asus fail to beat Gigabyte. That's even worse. I wouldnever ever expext that. Then you have ZOTAC. They aren't much cheaper anymore for their flagship cards (+50% above MSRP)..

I expect much more from Asus flagship costing +70% above MSRP. As with the failed 4th fan for the Astral aircooled card, the LC version have it's own flaws. Asus went for design over functionality. See the huge gap between the ROG fan and the radiator. It leaks air flow between fan and rad as hell. This isn't nice or clever design by any engineer. This is just dumb. They made the fan so fancy with pattern and uneven height. Maybe the engineer that created this fan design or approved it to be used should find a new job ? @Mr. Fox What Galax offer with their HOF series cards is miles in front of what Asus is able to deliver. This Is just embarrassing.... This follow same pattern with no screws to mount the rad in you pc box.

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_extreme/submissions/5813293 https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/timespy+graphics+score+extreme+preset/version+1.0

RTX5090 - Superposition 1080P - Global 5th🙂 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_1080p_xtreme/submissions/5812706 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_8k_optimized/submissions/5812711 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/5812723?recalculate=true

Hmmm. Can this be this weekends biggest Joke? $3150 with less rops but with higher price than 5090 MSRP ? Will people buy this type cards?--- See edit. And could this be a great buy if the prices was 5080 MSRP ? Aka $999 Nvidia RTX 5090 cards with missing ROPs are being sold as 'B-stock' And Intel. Don't want spend silicon wafers for gamer cards. Do people really buy Intel products nowadays? No Arc B770, Intel reportedly cancels Battlemage's top-of-the-line line Edit. Close to 60% would buy it. What with you @Mr. Fox🧐 ? Defective cards priced above MSRP. B-stock doesn't always mean you get it cheap. And on top same/similar problems as with the desktop cards... Nvidia put all their resources on data center chips. Nvidia's 50-series laptop launch looks bumpy: slipping ship dates, game crashes, and delayed review units

ASUS COULDN'T AFFORD SEND WITH A FEW SCREWS FOR THEIR $3000 FLAGSHIP GRAPHICS CARD. But I got a useless badge/button intended for gamer kids with ROG stamped in gold on. Stupids. Yup, I had to use tape. So this won't look pretty. And the 55cm tubes is barely long enough to put the radiator on top of the big black box😎 Barely time for testing. Right now I haven't much time for this. The card have been in the box since I bought it. The tests is done with stock voltage. Not so sure putting the voltage slider to 100% or 1.100V will help much with the power cap from Nvidia. All above me have the XOC vbios and only for the chosen ones. And the worst part... Friends of the fab clockers get their XOC firmware. Yup, only for the chosen ones. Oh'well, the results is still ok with vanilla firmware and tape😎 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5812214?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_32b/submissions/5812213?recalculate=true

Yup. You can get overpriced MSRP cards if you follow the shops notifications. I paid $3002 USD for my Astral LC OC card with today's currency exchange. So cheaper than the PNY card I showed above. But don't expect MSRP for 5090. Even if they have them in stock. And Asus will continue with premium for their best cards. The ROG tax is real. You can't change greed.

Hmmm. A flood of 5070's for sale. Cheapest here is $592 or $42 premium above MSRP. Could put 4 x5090 in my basket here home. 28 cards available. I could even put one of 3 Astral LC (not the OC) in my basket. +$500 more than what I paid for the OC LC. You can find cards but probably not the cards you want. And you have to accept even higher prices if you want the 5090's. These cards below is $3000 cards... From Gainward and Palit.

At least you are able to mount the radiator. Asus mean you can just mount it with strips. Rumors but still... Graphics cards is already damn expensive as it is. Can it be worse? This is not a problem if you get your hardware for free or can pay whatever the price will be. Graphics card prices to explode in June (+60%)? Maybe a custom 5060@8GB AIB cards will finally catch attention as a good option for +-$600. More like a steal for HW enthusiasts😁 Or Maybe 5070 forwards will be treated as the high end with +$1000 price tag, LOL

Asus is worse than I thought. Msi air cooled card run quite cool. And you won't gain any extra boost bins going with liquid metal. Why bother for 3-4C colder temp? Just run it as is and see how it goes (acceptable noise vs the performance target). Edit. https://www.igorslab.de/msi-geforce-rtx-5090-suprim-soc-im-test-wenn-das-gramm-einen-euro-kostet-und-die-fe-in-den-schatten-stellt/4/

This means only $1000 and $2000 cards from Nvidia. Nothing for the casual gamer on budget. Nvidia could add a 3rd card in the Geforce lineup with 5070Ti tier performance and branded it xx60 for $500. Remember AMD go for mid end or sub $700. Their own words. Anyway, there isn't real competition. AMD will always look at Nvidia when they put their pricing. 3 different tier cards... Thats enough. And MSI even make +15 different theme cards from 5070 series in the mid end. Too much choices. And this should be avoided. That's perverse. Edit. This is disgusting. No place Asus say what type screws you'll need. 99% of small screws sold here home is M series. The closest I can get is M3. Yup, Asus think you don't need screws to mount the radiator in your PC box. What did they save? 20 cent ? Nice. It will probably cost me +$20 for the few screws from abroad. Asus is a disgusting company.

The prices is awful. For every damn card. From low end to high end. And I can't grasp that almost all Radeon 9700 are equal or cost more than the 5070's here home. And there are more than enough cards for sale from both. So there is no shortage of therse cards here. But the prices is still high. And I'm sure there will be enough xx60 (Ti) series for everyone that want it when they come in the shop. Real-world GPU prices cost up to twice the MSRP — a look at current FPS per dollar values

The price increase from Zotac just show where we are with 5090. It's really bad situation if Nvidia's AIB partners with usually "cheapest options" going this direction. 20% price increase ain't peanuts. It seems PC Partners take an advantage avoiding the tarrifs. You don't have to pay an extra tax on top of this price increase....That 20% price increase you see goes directly into maximized profits. Or better say "You'll" have to pay for the move of the company to avoid any US introduced tarrifs. That's still better than what Asus doing right now. They prefer give you a "double" bill. Consumers will always pay the price. And the US government won't get a penny in taxes from this Nvidia partner. You get the bill. PC-Partner, the company behind ZOTAC, Manli and Inno3D, moves its headquarters from Hong Kong to Singapore to avoid US restrictions The company, which owns GPU brands such as ZOTAC, Manli and Inno3D, wants to avoid being caught up in sanctions and restrictions in order to continue its business. For this reason, PC Partner has moved its headquarters from Hong Kong to Singapore, directly affecting the ZOTAC and Inno3D brands. The relocation of PC Partner’s headquarters to Singapore is seen as a strategic move to secure future business operations and avoid potential sanctions and trade restrictions. This relocation will allow the ZOTAC, Manli and Inno3D brands to continue to operate in the global market and distribute their products without significant restrictions