Xmg neo 16 and 17 2023

[VEGGIM]

New oasis unit. Both have mechanical per key rgb.

https://www.xmg.gg/en/news-new-product-xmg-neo-e23/

 

This might eb an unfortunate for you or not. But the pipe has slightly changed 

 

[Shark00n]

CPU was bad and santa didn't give him a heatpipe nor a 4th screw.

 

I don't understand the point of these models. They must think consumers won't even consider buying a laptop thicker than 1" but have no problem with a janky watercooling setup.

[Tenoroon]

On 1/8/2023 at 6:51 AM, VEGGIM said:

New oasis unit. Both have mechanical per key rgb.

https://www.xmg.gg/en/news-new-product-xmg-neo-e23/

 

This might eb an unfortunate for you or not. But the pipe has slightly changed 

 

I saw this earlier today too. Why did they make the cooling setup WORSE than last year?!

People might argue that last year's cooling was worse because it had to tame both the CPU and GPU, but it's not really a problem as the pipes are being cooled by both the internal fans AND the water. I hope to see some detailed comparisons of the cooling abilities of this year's model and last years.

Also, why couldn't they run the pipe for the GPU VRM's over the PCH? I know its not that big of a deal, but in laptops where most of the airflow is directed to the heatsink, it would be a bit better to get the PCH while you're at it.

[VEGGIM]

On 1/9/2023 at 7:42 PM, Tenoroon said:

I saw this earlier today too. Why did they make the cooling setup WORSE than last year?!

People might argue that last year's cooling was worse because it had to tame both the CPU and GPU, but it's not really a problem as the pipes are being cooled by both the internal fans AND the water. I hope to see some detailed comparisons of the cooling abilities of this year's model and last years.

Also, why couldn't they run the pipe for the GPU VRM's over the PCH? I know its not that big of a deal, but in laptops where most of the airflow is directed to the heatsink, it would be a bit better to get the PCH while you're at it.

Here is their reasoning:

 

Die size, lower nm, more power is for the gpu than the vram. This means the 4000 series is hotter and more of a power consumer chip wise in a vacuum. 

[Shark00n]

 

[saturnotaku]

The new Eluktroncs MECH 17 can be purchased with an RTX 4090 but no RAM, SSD, or Windows license for $2999.

[SapphiraTriX298]

Cyberpower apparently has the same model under their own branding.

~$2850 with RAM, SSD, and Windows. $3000 with the Cooler

[serpro69]

So the XMG Neo 17 (23) and Eluktronics Mech 17 GP2 , these are the same machines just branded differently? Or are there any differences between them?

[IamTechknow]

1 hour ago, serpro69 said:

So the XMG Neo 17 (23) and Eluktronics Mech 17 GP2 , these are the same machines just branded differently? Or are there any differences between them?

The Mech 17 GP2 offers PremaMod, I'm not sure if the Neo 17 will yet

[serpro69]

3 hours ago, IamTechknow said:

The Mech 17 GP2 offers PremaMod, I'm not sure if the Neo 17 will yet

 

That's interesting, thanks. I also found today someone mentioning that XMG was better with providing updates to their systems. Dunno how true that is though.

[SapphiraTriX298]

The 16" and 17" are only about 2.5cm or 1" different in width, and very minimally different in depth and height, and 120gm or 1/4lb lighter.

Is that enough to make people choose one over the other?

 

Also, do XMG or Cyberpower offer preinstalled liquid metal, or is that an Eluktronics Exclusive?

 

What are the main benefits of Premamod? I have not messed with any of these laptops before, but I thought it originally had something to do with increasing power limits, which is not allowed on these versions?

 

If performance benefits, are they appreciable on air, or mainly with liquid?

 

Is it likely to be compatible with other clones, as it was in previous generations?