VEGGIM Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 New oasis unit. Both have mechanical per key rgb. https://www.xmg.gg/en/news-new-product-xmg-neo-e23/ This might eb an unfortunate for you or not. But the pipe has slightly changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark00n Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 CPU was bad and santa didn't give him a heatpipe nor a 4th screw. I don't understand the point of these models. They must think consumers won't even consider buying a laptop thicker than 1" but have no problem with a janky watercooling setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/8/2023 at 6:51 AM, VEGGIM said: New oasis unit. Both have mechanical per key rgb. https://www.xmg.gg/en/news-new-product-xmg-neo-e23/ This might eb an unfortunate for you or not. But the pipe has slightly changed I saw this earlier today too. Why did they make the cooling setup WORSE than last year?! People might argue that last year's cooling was worse because it had to tame both the CPU and GPU, but it's not really a problem as the pipes are being cooled by both the internal fans AND the water. I hope to see some detailed comparisons of the cooling abilities of this year's model and last years. Also, why couldn't they run the pipe for the GPU VRM's over the PCH? I know its not that big of a deal, but in laptops where most of the airflow is directed to the heatsink, it would be a bit better to get the PCH while you're at it. Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo GTX 1080 | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | 1tb Samsung 870 QVO | 2tb Seagate 5400rpm HDD | Prema BIOS Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VEGGIM Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 On 1/9/2023 at 7:42 PM, Tenoroon said: I saw this earlier today too. Why did they make the cooling setup WORSE than last year?! People might argue that last year's cooling was worse because it had to tame both the CPU and GPU, but it's not really a problem as the pipes are being cooled by both the internal fans AND the water. I hope to see some detailed comparisons of the cooling abilities of this year's model and last years. Also, why couldn't they run the pipe for the GPU VRM's over the PCH? I know its not that big of a deal, but in laptops where most of the airflow is directed to the heatsink, it would be a bit better to get the PCH while you're at it. Here is their reasoning: Die size, lower nm, more power is for the gpu than the vram. This means the 4000 series is hotter and more of a power consumer chip wise in a vacuum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark00n Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturnotaku Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 The new Eluktroncs MECH 17 can be purchased with an RTX 4090 but no RAM, SSD, or Windows license for $2999. Desktop: Ryzen 9 5950X | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4070 | 2 TB SSD | Windows 10 Lenovo Legion Pro 7i: Core i9-13900HX | 32 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 4080 | 2 TB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 3 Gaming: Ryzen 7 6800H | 16 GB RAM | GeForce RTX 3050 | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro: Ryzen 5 5600U | 16 GB RAM | Radeon Graphics | 512 GB SSD | Windows 11 Apple iPad Gen 9: A13 Bionic | 3 GB RAM | 64 GB | iPadOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphiraTriX298 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Cyberpower apparently has the same model under their own branding. ~$2850 with RAM, SSD, and Windows. $3000 with the Cooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpro69 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 So the XMG Neo 17 (23) and Eluktronics Mech 17 GP2 , these are the same machines just branded differently? Or are there any differences between them? GitHub profile Currently and formerly owned laptops (specs below): Serenity -> Dell Precision 5560 N-1 -> Dell Precision 5560 (my lady's) Razor Crest -> Lenovo ThinkPad P16 (work) Millenium Falcon -> Dell Precision 5530 Axiom -> Lenovo ThinkPad P52 (work) Moldy Crow -> Dell XPS 15 9550 Spoiler Senenity / N-1: Dell Precision 5560 i7-11800H CPU 1x32 GB DDR4 2,666 MHz 512 GB SSD NVIDIA T1200 FHD+ 1920x1200 PopOS 22.04 Razor Crest: Lenovo ThinkPad P16 i7-12800HX CPU 2x32 GB DDR4 4,800MHz 1 TB SSD NVIDIA RTX A2000 WQUXGA 3840x2400 Windows 11 Pro Millenium Falcon: Dell Precision 5530 i9-8950HK CPU 2x16 GB DDR4 2,666 MHz 1 TB SSD NVIDIA Quadro P2000 UHD 3840x2160 Ubuntu 22.04 / Windows 10 LTSC Axiom: Lenovo ThinkPad P52 i7-8850H 2x32 GB DDR4 1 TB SSD NVIDIA Quadro P2000 UHD 3840x2160 Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamTechknow Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, serpro69 said: So the XMG Neo 17 (23) and Eluktronics Mech 17 GP2 , these are the same machines just branded differently? Or are there any differences between them? The Mech 17 GP2 offers PremaMod, I'm not sure if the Neo 17 will yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpro69 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, IamTechknow said: The Mech 17 GP2 offers PremaMod, I'm not sure if the Neo 17 will yet That's interesting, thanks. I also found today someone mentioning that XMG was better with providing updates to their systems. Dunno how true that is though. 1 GitHub profile Currently and formerly owned laptops (specs below): Serenity -> Dell Precision 5560 N-1 -> Dell Precision 5560 (my lady's) Razor Crest -> Lenovo ThinkPad P16 (work) Millenium Falcon -> Dell Precision 5530 Axiom -> Lenovo ThinkPad P52 (work) Moldy Crow -> Dell XPS 15 9550 Spoiler Senenity / N-1: Dell Precision 5560 i7-11800H CPU 1x32 GB DDR4 2,666 MHz 512 GB SSD NVIDIA T1200 FHD+ 1920x1200 PopOS 22.04 Razor Crest: Lenovo ThinkPad P16 i7-12800HX CPU 2x32 GB DDR4 4,800MHz 1 TB SSD NVIDIA RTX A2000 WQUXGA 3840x2400 Windows 11 Pro Millenium Falcon: Dell Precision 5530 i9-8950HK CPU 2x16 GB DDR4 2,666 MHz 1 TB SSD NVIDIA Quadro P2000 UHD 3840x2160 Ubuntu 22.04 / Windows 10 LTSC Axiom: Lenovo ThinkPad P52 i7-8850H 2x32 GB DDR4 1 TB SSD NVIDIA Quadro P2000 UHD 3840x2160 Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphiraTriX298 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The 16" and 17" are only about 2.5cm or 1" different in width, and very minimally different in depth and height, and 120gm or 1/4lb lighter. Is that enough to make people choose one over the other? Also, do XMG or Cyberpower offer preinstalled liquid metal, or is that an Eluktronics Exclusive? What are the main benefits of Premamod? I have not messed with any of these laptops before, but I thought it originally had something to do with increasing power limits, which is not allowed on these versions? If performance benefits, are they appreciable on air, or mainly with liquid? Is it likely to be compatible with other clones, as it was in previous generations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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