MaxxD Posted Thursday at 04:11 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:11 AM 50 minutes ago, Teo said: @MaxxD Hi. I still have mine running fine. Did some benchmarks and my own watercooler running fine without issues, and finally on XMG 1.07.09 I did unlock the BIOS. i once installed the Control Center is terrible still, I think I did install the latest version but has bugs. Such as overclock app doesn’t not open (it did once only) and stays on high clock cooking it self, performs terrible, and also the fans controller app is bad, suddenly starts spinning like crazy and only stops if you open it select manual and back again to automatic. Control Center (sorry I don’t remember what version I had but ov6 up) is terrible. So without it there you can set it up for not thermal throttle and limits. I just use throttlestop. I Even put it all to max not limits and ran fine scoring 15,456 on cinebench, I am still testing more, I barely had it couple of months ago. I don’t think that score is the best but yet still decent for a standard overclock. The thing I haven’t done is to change the XMP profile, that’s why I was tweaking to get the BIOS unlocked. I think this laptop runs fine, just need proper seating pads and thermal paste, right cooler, the right apps, right setup and I think it does fine. Hi, Thanks for sharing your experience. Based on my experience so far, I don't have a good opinion of the KM-G Clevo. The fan worked fine, RAM management is not exactly good. 10 & 11th gen CPUs also work fine in it. My mechanic friend is doing it now and the machine has a big problem. He has a RAM voltage problem. He is already looking at the wiring diagram and has even found the source of the error. It is not easy, The RAM power supply circuit does not maintain the voltage for some reason. But I can continue working with this now, just in case...the 1.05 and 1.8V power supply circuits are based on the 3.3 and 5V circuits. The TRS51275 can already provide dedicated 1.8 and 1.05V. I don't know why they built another DCDC part underneath. Actually SM-G was the basis for the KM-G version, but it was very overthought by the design engineers. I have a PCS version of the SM-G version that works perfectly with Obsidian. I also have a zTecpc version of the Prema BIOS version. My KM-G version is Sager and has the same BIOS on it. "Slayer Of Desktops" & "Desktop Killer" ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G / KM-G►17.3" FHD/240/144Hz/G-Sync/100% sRGB►i9-10900K / i7-11700K +AIO Water System►Kingston 4x16GB / 4x32GB CL20 DDR4-3200MHz RAM►4x2TB (=8TB) / 5TB M2/NVMe SSD►nV RTX 2080 Super 8GB / 3080 16GB MXM►RGB HUN & UK Keyboards►WCam►USB 3.2 Gen2 +USB-C 3.2 Gen2 / ThunderBolt 3 & 4►Sound Blaster Atlas (Super X-Fi) 2x3W + 5W SW►Jack/MIC/SPDIF►Killer 2.5GB LAN+WiFi6+BT 5.0►HDMI/mDP Port►Win10/11 x64 Pro◄►+Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C4 4K/144Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo Posted Thursday at 06:11 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:11 AM @MaxxD Hello again, You are welcome, I am also learning, I am new at this stuff. I see. yeah I can see that some problems can resurface on this laptop and hasnt been refined well, if there is 2 main power rail is perhaps to properly control 2 power brick (Is just my guess) if your friend have the diagrams or schematics of that laptop it might explain that or it should had. I am using the BIOS from XMG for that reason, they said they have fixed many issues related to EC chip and memory if I am not wrong. You can go back and forward with bios updates if they don’t perform as you expect. Mine is an Origin model I found many random crashes on 1.07.08 versión so I switched to XMG 1.07.09RTR and it seems more stable. If your voltage is not stable then there must be a faulty power controller or already some bad coils. Hard thing is to know what is failing, something is no delivering proper power. Or could be some bad setup in the bios related to memory clock. Yeah -SM model many people said is better in many ways. I am a bit of a technician (still learning) is like a hobby, not afraid to break it, I fix stuff and laptops are a new area to try. I tried to get the best of the line but I mean on potential not stability. And I prefer socketed CPU and GPU, I don’t like the soldered ones on the board, I am learning to solder those things but I cannot tell yet if I am doing well yet. Plus you can’t get 100% good spares, mostly fakes one or dying ones, even microchips, have to get things straight from manufacture or buy second hand laptops for spare only. sorry for expanding too much, I hope you can find the solution. greetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidelloman Posted Thursday at 08:32 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:32 AM On 6/15/2025 at 11:19 PM, oduska said: Thank you both. I might have to do both things (lubricate to buy some time and then replace). @Bidelloman In your post, https://notebooktalk.net/topic/125-official-clevo-x170km-g-thread/?do=findComment&comment=54716, you mention "taobao fans". I can't find anything online about those, can you please share a link to what you're talking about? i wonder if after all this time they are still available, I bought them through that proxy reseller, taobao, from a chinese website. These fans are mentioned in the SMg thread many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted Thursday at 12:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:57 PM 6 hours ago, Teo said: @MaxxD Hello again, You are welcome, I am also learning, I am new at this stuff. I see. yeah I can see that some problems can resurface on this laptop and hasnt been refined well, if there is 2 main power rail is perhaps to properly control 2 power brick (Is just my guess) if your friend have the diagrams or schematics of that laptop it might explain that or it should had. I am using the BIOS from XMG for that reason, they said they have fixed many issues related to EC chip and memory if I am not wrong. You can go back and forward with bios updates if they don’t perform as you expect. Mine is an Origin model I found many random crashes on 1.07.08 versión so I switched to XMG 1.07.09RTR and it seems more stable. If your voltage is not stable then there must be a faulty power controller or already some bad coils. Hard thing is to know what is failing, something is no delivering proper power. Or could be some bad setup in the bios related to memory clock. Yeah -SM model many people said is better in many ways. I am a bit of a technician (still learning) is like a hobby, not afraid to break it, I fix stuff and laptops are a new area to try. I tried to get the best of the line but I mean on potential not stability. And I prefer socketed CPU and GPU, I don’t like the soldered ones on the board, I am learning to solder those things but I cannot tell yet if I am doing well yet. Plus you can’t get 100% good spares, mostly fakes one or dying ones, even microchips, have to get things straight from manufacture or buy second hand laptops for spare only. sorry for expanding too much, I hope you can find the solution. greetings. Hi, Yes, there were unexpected problems with this. My friend who deals with laptop servicing has seen a lot of things. Unfortunately, this is quite a complex problem and the machine can be made to work by connecting the voltage wires on the board, but the sleep mode will no longer work, but who would put such a DTR Gaming laptop into sleep mode? Just kidding! I have a lot of parts for the X170 model! That's why I didn't give up on leaving this one. 🙂 😞 XMG BIOS is the best and most stable version, you say? I'll try it with another board. I have a contact for purchasing original parts for one of the manufacturers. The problem is that it is located locally in Canada.... :xD In theory, it could be used with a 2666MHz RAM module, but I'm not sure...I'm still waiting for the results. A new board is arriving from Canada. I'm hoping for the best! If that doesn't work either, I'll abandon the KM-G version and use only the SM-G version, of which I have 2 machines. The second version, which includes a zTecpc Prema BIOS, caused a lot of trouble... it had a crazy i9-10900KF with RTX 3080 GPU and 4x32GB DDR4-3200MHz CL20 Kingston RAM... 5GHz+ ran smoothly with water cooling, but suddenly it thought of something and didn't give a picture, after a lot of work and time it was put back in place, the entire voltage part (3.3, 5v, 12v) went away and it became good by replacing parts, but unfortunately it doesn't handle the K processor, but otherwise it can be used perfectly for anything 0-24hr with a nonK CPU. The panel map is of course available. The design part of the thing was very complicated and it's not simple.... I have previously worked in the RMA area at several places (HP, Cannon, Sony, Siemens, etc.) and I also dealt with Optical and Mechanical repairs...there was a time when we manually replaced BGA chips (on phone panels on products that failed during testing during production) it was nice, it was a long time ago... it's been a while since I've been so deeply involved in electronics manufacturing and repair. "Slayer Of Desktops" & "Desktop Killer" ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G / KM-G►17.3" FHD/240/144Hz/G-Sync/100% sRGB►i9-10900K / i7-11700K +AIO Water System►Kingston 4x16GB / 4x32GB CL20 DDR4-3200MHz RAM►4x2TB (=8TB) / 5TB M2/NVMe SSD►nV RTX 2080 Super 8GB / 3080 16GB MXM►RGB HUN & UK Keyboards►WCam►USB 3.2 Gen2 +USB-C 3.2 Gen2 / ThunderBolt 3 & 4►Sound Blaster Atlas (Super X-Fi) 2x3W + 5W SW►Jack/MIC/SPDIF►Killer 2.5GB LAN+WiFi6+BT 5.0►HDMI/mDP Port►Win10/11 x64 Pro◄►+Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C4 4K/144Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo Posted Thursday at 10:19 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:19 PM @MaxxD That’s crazy, you have a lot of experiences and worked on a manufacture? I see so now this laptop is a complex machine, I hope you can fix your laptop after all the problems you have faced. I know is not so pleasant to have something that have a lot of problems or issues but I guess you learn a lot, get a lot of experiences, what works what doesn’t. Yeah the XMG Bios version has been more stable to me, when I was doing some benchmarks and tweak a bit the Overcloaking configurations it use crash or just simply shut down by itself, for some reason they do recommend it on this forum. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted Friday at 05:57 AM Share Posted Friday at 05:57 AM 7 hours ago, Teo said: @MaxxD That’s crazy, you have a lot of experiences and worked on a manufacture? I see so now this laptop is a complex machine, I hope you can fix your laptop after all the problems you have faced. I know is not so pleasant to have something that have a lot of problems or issues but I guess you learn a lot, get a lot of experiences, what works what doesn’t. Yeah the XMG Bios version has been more stable to me, when I was doing some benchmarks and tweak a bit the Overcloaking configurations it use crash or just simply shut down by itself, for some reason they do recommend it on this forum. All the best. I also participated in RMA service and manufacturer repair and during the manufacturing process. Yes, I hope we can find a solution too... Is the XMG version the best then? I read somewhere that it is not the most reliable. I don't even know which version is the best... "Slayer Of Desktops" & "Desktop Killer" ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G / KM-G►17.3" FHD/240/144Hz/G-Sync/100% sRGB►i9-10900K / i7-11700K +AIO Water System►Kingston 4x16GB / 4x32GB CL20 DDR4-3200MHz RAM►4x2TB (=8TB) / 5TB M2/NVMe SSD►nV RTX 2080 Super 8GB / 3080 16GB MXM►RGB HUN & UK Keyboards►WCam►USB 3.2 Gen2 +USB-C 3.2 Gen2 / ThunderBolt 3 & 4►Sound Blaster Atlas (Super X-Fi) 2x3W + 5W SW►Jack/MIC/SPDIF►Killer 2.5GB LAN+WiFi6+BT 5.0►HDMI/mDP Port►Win10/11 x64 Pro◄►+Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C4 4K/144Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo Posted Friday at 10:26 AM Share Posted Friday at 10:26 AM @MaxxD sorry just to clarify. the XMG is more stable compare to other version Bios I got installed before, I got more crashes on the original BIOS (Origin AEON17 model) that came just by running benchmarks. If you do some overclock and mess around with the clocks or voltages, obviously you will get some crashes or shutdown that is normal, you have to find the right settings and it will run fine. Just try the Bios, you can always downgrade the BIOS with same Bios Update provided by your vendor. Origin doesn’t have anymore BIOS updates so I used the Clevo one. Origin 1.07.09rtr to Style Note 1.07.08 I Even went lower to 1.07.07 then I went back Style Note 1.07.08 to XMG 1.07.09rtr Then modified the XMG 1.07.09rtr Bios file and unlocked, flashed with FPTW64 and running well with all menus unlocked. Lucky the regions aren’t locked. You can make full dump with FPTW64 (I was just testing if it was possible to downgrade BIOSes with the updates *.exe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted Friday at 08:37 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:37 PM 10 hours ago, Teo said: @MaxxD sorry just to clarify. the XMG is more stable compare to other version Bios I got installed before, I got more crashes on the original BIOS (Origin AEON17 model) that came just by running benchmarks. If you do some overclock and mess around with the clocks or voltages, obviously you will get some crashes or shutdown that is normal, you have to find the right settings and it will run fine. Just try the Bios, you can always downgrade the BIOS with same Bios Update provided by your vendor. Origin doesn’t have anymore BIOS updates so I used the Clevo one. Origin 1.07.09rtr to Style Note 1.07.08 I Even went lower to 1.07.07 then I went back Style Note 1.07.08 to XMG 1.07.09rtr Then modified the XMG 1.07.09rtr Bios file and unlocked, flashed with FPTW64 and running well with all menus unlocked. Lucky the regions aren’t locked. You can make full dump with FPTW64 (I was just testing if it was possible to downgrade BIOSes with the updates *.exe) Thank You! As I looked at it, the XMG 1.07.09rtr Bios is the latest and no other vendor has made a newer version. I will install it on the Eurocom motherboard and test it out. I may also install it on the Sager motherboard. The Sager will work in principle, but unfortunately not with the 32GB 3200MHz CL20 Kingston Impact Fury Modules. In principle, it will take 4-chip 2-sided 2666MHz memory without any problems and the motherboard will be usable, but there is a problem with the RAM voltage management and this cannot be fixed, unfortunately. 1.07.09rtr also, which EC version are you using? "Slayer Of Desktops" & "Desktop Killer" ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G / KM-G►17.3" FHD/240/144Hz/G-Sync/100% sRGB►i9-10900K / i7-11700K +AIO Water System►Kingston 4x16GB / 4x32GB CL20 DDR4-3200MHz RAM►4x2TB (=8TB) / 5TB M2/NVMe SSD►nV RTX 2080 Super 8GB / 3080 16GB MXM►RGB HUN & UK Keyboards►WCam►USB 3.2 Gen2 +USB-C 3.2 Gen2 / ThunderBolt 3 & 4►Sound Blaster Atlas (Super X-Fi) 2x3W + 5W SW►Jack/MIC/SPDIF►Killer 2.5GB LAN+WiFi6+BT 5.0►HDMI/mDP Port►Win10/11 x64 Pro◄►+Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C4 4K/144Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo Posted Friday at 10:57 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:57 PM @MaxxD hi I am using the KBC/EC 1.07.04 can be seen on some of the pictures I have posted. I hope it works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 8 hours ago, Teo said: @MaxxD hi I am using the KBC/EC 1.07.04 can be seen on some of the pictures I have posted. I hope it works for you. Hi, Thank you! We hope for the best.✌️☺️ "Slayer Of Desktops" & "Desktop Killer" ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G / KM-G►17.3" FHD/240/144Hz/G-Sync/100% sRGB►i9-10900K / i7-11700K +AIO Water System►Kingston 4x16GB / 4x32GB CL20 DDR4-3200MHz RAM►4x2TB (=8TB) / 5TB M2/NVMe SSD►nV RTX 2080 Super 8GB / 3080 16GB MXM►RGB HUN & UK Keyboards►WCam►USB 3.2 Gen2 +USB-C 3.2 Gen2 / ThunderBolt 3 & 4►Sound Blaster Atlas (Super X-Fi) 2x3W + 5W SW►Jack/MIC/SPDIF►Killer 2.5GB LAN+WiFi6+BT 5.0►HDMI/mDP Port►Win10/11 x64 Pro◄►+Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C4 4K/144Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted 27 minutes ago Share Posted 27 minutes ago On 6/28/2025 at 12:57 AM, Teo said: @MaxxD hi I am using the KBC/EC 1.07.04 can be seen on some of the pictures I have posted. I hope it works for you. Should the two be used together? XMG version BIOS and EC is the last released version. "Slayer Of Desktops" & "Desktop Killer" ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G / KM-G►17.3" FHD/240/144Hz/G-Sync/100% sRGB►i9-10900K / i7-11700K +AIO Water System►Kingston 4x16GB / 4x32GB CL20 DDR4-3200MHz RAM►4x2TB (=8TB) / 5TB M2/NVMe SSD►nV RTX 2080 Super 8GB / 3080 16GB MXM►RGB HUN & UK Keyboards►WCam►USB 3.2 Gen2 +USB-C 3.2 Gen2 / ThunderBolt 3 & 4►Sound Blaster Atlas (Super X-Fi) 2x3W + 5W SW►Jack/MIC/SPDIF►Killer 2.5GB LAN+WiFi6+BT 5.0►HDMI/mDP Port►Win10/11 x64 Pro◄►+Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C4 4K/144Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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