1610ftw Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 hours ago, rcghalohell said: is it safer than liquid metal though? i fried my motherboard with that It should be safe once in place but you have to be careful to assure it stays in place while mounting the heatsink. In my testing (air only) I was not happy with the performance of these sheets compared to my phase change solution so I only use them for testing and nothing else. If you feel uneasy about conductive TIM then use PTM7950 pads - non-conductive, great longevity and great temperatures: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ptm7950 I have not seen degradation since the first units I used them for - no pump-out, no drying out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcghalohell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I'm sure a dab of kryonaut to hold it in place will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedr1k Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Hello guys, I have a problem from some time with fps with more demanding titles. I don't see any problem with GPU overheating. During the becnhmark test, it shows maximum values of 66 degrees, but I suspect that the problem may be with the vrams. When I last opened the case, I found out that the thermal pads for the vrams were gone. I didn't have any thermal pads at this point, so I applied some thermal paste to the area.I don't know whether the temperature sensors in this GPU show the temperature value only for the center of the GPU or whether they also take into account VRAM temperatures. For now, there is only thermal paste on the sectors marked in red. https://ibb.co/WW1GxZHq - screenshot form apex legends because I could not uploaded it to the post For example in apex legends I used to have stable 144fps. Now for more demanding places when I look at the city where lots of textures are loading because of bad optimization I have like 35fps. I even ask friend of mine which has worse CPU and rtx 2080 super (dekstop) and he has in same scenarios around 150-200fps. So it has to be something with my system. I also - reinstaled windows - done lots of optimization with settings for FPS - instaled different types of drivers (older/newest) - made memtest86 and passed w/o errors - made stress test for GPU and CPU - passed w/o errors and thermal throttling Also in new titles like Marvel Rivals (everything on low) I have like 40-60fps. But for example in older titles like CS2 or Valorant I have easy 200fps+. I would like to ask if someone with this laptop could take a 3D Time Spy Extreme benchmark test to compare results for same parameters of GPU and CPU? My CPU clock is 4,4Ghz, Core Voltage Offset -0,110V Processor Core IccMax 255,75A. My GPU Core Clock is on +175Mhz, Memory Clock + 1000Mhz. I have already ordered new Thermalpads but it would be nice if someone confirmed my concerns about the current problem. Edited February 2 by cedr1k I have updated some information in this post. EVOC High Performance Systems X1702C (X170KM-G) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) 165W 16GB 1905Mhz | Intel Core i9-10900K 4Ghz | 32GB | 2TB Intel Raid 0 Volume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 9 hours ago, rcghalohell said: I'm sure a dab of kryonaut to hold it in place will help You don't need that!☝️😆 ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G + AIO Water System►Win10 & 11 x64 Pro "Dual Boot" System►i9-10900KF,128GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM,RTX 3080 16GB◄►+ Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C9PLA "4K" 120Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►*.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 2/1/2025 at 1:32 AM, cedr1k said: Hello guys, I have a problem from some time with fps with more demanding titles. I don't see any problem with GPU overheating. During the becnhmark test, it shows maximum values of 66 degrees, but I suspect that the problem may be with the vrams. When I last opened the case, I found out that the thermal pads for the vrams were gone. I didn't have any thermal pads at this point, so I applied some thermal paste to the area.I don't know whether the temperature sensors in this GPU show the temperature value only for the center of the GPU or whether they also take into account VRAM temperatures. For now, there is only thermal paste on the sectors marked in red. https://ibb.co/WW1GxZHq - screenshot form apex legends because I could not uploaded it to the post For example in apex legends I used to have stable 144fps. Now for more demanding places when I look at the city where lots of textures are loading because of bad optimization I have like 35fps. I even ask friend of mine which has worse CPU and rtx 2080 super (dekstop) and he has in same scenarios around 150-200fps. So it has to be something with my system. I also - reinstaled windows - done lots of optimization with settings for FPS - instaled different types of drivers (older/newest) - made memtest86 and passed w/o errors - made stress test for GPU and CPU - passed w/o errors and thermal throttling Also in new titles like Marvel Rivals (everything on low) I have like 40-60fps. But for example in older titles like CS2 or Valorant I have easy 200fps+. I would like to ask if someone with this laptop could take a 3D Time Spy Extreme benchmark test to compare results for same parameters of GPU and CPU? My CPU clock is 4,4Ghz, Core Voltage Offset -0,110V Processor Core IccMax 255,75A. My GPU Core Clock is on +175Mhz, Memory Clock + 1000Mhz. I have already ordered new Thermalpads but it would be nice if someone confirmed my concerns about the current problem. Hi, Easy.... (X170KM-G RTX 3080) T.pad size. I did it this way for both water cooling and the factory KM-G cooling and I use it without any problems. -UP- I recommend a forum member's writing to your attention, use it! I can't test TimeSpy because the KM-G board hasn't been installed yet to replace the SM-G board, and the i9 processor doesn't work in that SM-G board, currently the i7-10700 works without any problems. TimeSpy Extreme (i9-10900KF @ 5GHz , RTX 3080 16GB @ +155 / 600MHz) ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G + AIO Water System►Win10 & 11 x64 Pro "Dual Boot" System►i9-10900KF,128GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM,RTX 3080 16GB◄►+ Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C9PLA "4K" 120Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►*.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedr1k Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, MaxxD said: Hi, Easy.... (X170KM-G RTX 3080) T.pad size. I did it this way for both water cooling and the factory KM-G cooling and I use it without any problems. -UP- I recommend a forum member's writing to your attention, use it! I can't test TimeSpy because the KM-G board hasn't been installed yet to replace the SM-G board, and the i9 processor doesn't work in that SM-G board, currently the i7-10700 works without any problems. TimeSpy Extreme (i9-10900KF @ 5GHz , RTX 3080 16GB @ +155 / 600MHz) Ok thank you very much. Can you tell me why there are slight differences in thickness of your thermal pads and those in 1st post: and in smoothinize's post: I guess in both scenarios it will work but maybe there is something behind this, let me know. Your GPU scores is slightly better then mine but it probably caused by faster CPU clock. Your was 4.9Ghz and mine was 4.4Ghz. EVOC High Performance Systems X1702C (X170KM-G) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) 165W 16GB 1905Mhz | Intel Core i9-10900K 4Ghz | 32GB | 2TB Intel Raid 0 Volume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidelloman Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 hours ago, cedr1k said: Ok thank you very much. Can you tell me why there are slight differences in thickness of your thermal pads and those in 1st post: and in smoothinize's post: I guess in both scenarios it will work but maybe there is something behind this, let me know. Your GPU scores is slightly better then mine but it probably caused by faster CPU clock. Your was 4.9Ghz and mine was 4.4Ghz. x170's heatsink tolerances are shit, you are far better off using putty and ptm, than sticking with pads. Or do what ztec did, which is LM and k5pro ( sewing off the fourth cpu screw, replace them with 2.5 x10 + washers), bit messier and k5 is less performant than many if not most putties, and with LM you have to be even more careful with tolerances and ofc not touching any conductive bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I have an important question too. I have two monitors (240Hz and 144Hz) and the only question would be which one is compatible with the X170KM-G motherboard? Which would definitely have G-Sync! Monitor type: B173HAN05.0 (240Hz PCSpecialist UK X170SM-G Original Display G-Sync ON this RTX 2080 Super with card) LP173WFG-SPB1 (144Hz zTecpc USA X170SM-G Original Display G-Sync ON this RTX 2080 Super with card) The question is, which of the two would have G-Sync with the KM-G motherboard?😗 In addition to the 144Hz, I would install the KM-G board instead of the SM-G motherboard, because the SM-G board is "defective" (it doesn't support K processors, tested with 10700K and 10900K processors) ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G + AIO Water System►Win10 & 11 x64 Pro "Dual Boot" System►i9-10900KF,128GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM,RTX 3080 16GB◄►+ Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C9PLA "4K" 120Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►*.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcghalohell Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 2/1/2025 at 1:28 AM, MaxxD said: You don't need that!☝️😆 safety first, anyways it came in the mail, so ill take it apart maybe sunday or next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcghalohell Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 hours ago, MaxxD said: I have an important question too. I have two monitors (240Hz and 144Hz) and the only question would be which one is compatible with the X170KM-G motherboard? Which would definitely have G-Sync! Monitor type: B173HAN05.0 (240Hz PCSpecialist UK X170SM-G Original Display G-Sync ON this RTX 2080 Super with card) LP173WFG-SPB1 (144Hz zTecpc USA X170SM-G Original Display G-Sync ON this RTX 2080 Super with card) The question is, which of the two would have G-Sync with the KM-G motherboard?😗 In addition to the 144Hz, I would install the KM-G board instead of the SM-G motherboard, because the SM-G board is "defective" (it doesn't support K processors, tested with 10700K and 10900K processors) i feel like both would, im using alienware and thats an ultrawide with 165hz, and i came from a 144hz. i sometimes use both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/3/2025 at 8:28 PM, rcghalohell said: i feel like both would, im using alienware and thats an ultrawide with 165hz, and i came from a 144hz. i sometimes use both I'll probably find out when I install that motherboard. I don't even know what BIOS that board will have... ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G + AIO Water System►Win10 & 11 x64 Pro "Dual Boot" System►i9-10900KF,128GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM,RTX 3080 16GB◄►+ Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C9PLA "4K" 120Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►*.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleanslate Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Hi all, new here. After giving up on Control Center's inability to play nice with W10's power plans, I've finally regained control of my fans with this, but haven't been able to do the same for the LEDs. All I want is to turn off the blue LEDs, I don't care about flashy RGBs or zones. OpenRGB doesn't support this platform apparently. Has anyone been able to take control of their LEDs on a KM-G with a different tool? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcghalohell Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 so i put the kryosheets in, the cpu desktop temps are sitting in the low 80s to high 70s at full fan speed as i monitor with the control center 3.0 program. and the ingame temps are still fluctuating between 101 and 88. it averages a bit lower on stress but otherwise, slight improvements i see but it still isnt the best and i made that stuff flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneyblue Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Did you guys ever get the Prema Bios for X170 KMG? Alienware M18R2 14900hx 4070 32DDR5 165hz 2560x2600 QHD 1tbNVME Rank ? jury is out Clevo X170 KM-G 10700k 3080 16gb (former owner)Rank 4 This thing treated me badly thanks to all on this forums for the ride with help MSI GT73VR 7RE Titan 7820HK 1070 (former owner) Rank 3 MSI thought it was a good idea putting single channel dimm backside of mobo Asus ROG G75IJ 4720HQ 965m (former owner) Rank 1 This thing punched above its weight for only 1200 dollars IBuyPower Valkyrie CZ-17 i7 3630QM 670m (former owner) Rank 2 My first gaming laptop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxD Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 17 hours ago, Sydneyblue said: Did you guys ever get the Prema Bios for X170 KMG? As far as I know, the KM-G version didn't get it because it wasn't finished.😌☺️ ◄►Clevo® X170SM-G + AIO Water System►Win10 & 11 x64 Pro "Dual Boot" System►i9-10900KF,128GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM,RTX 3080 16GB◄►+ Pioneer®BDR-209EBK + RaidSonic®ICY BOX IB-550STU3S►LG®OLED55C9PLA "4K" 120Hz G-Sync 1MS◄►*.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcghalohell Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 updated bios, lol now i have a gray xmg image on boot, makes me wonder... is it possible to change the boot image to something custom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiRaGe Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Gray or green? 😁 XMG Neo 17 (E24) | 14900HX | 32GB (2X16) Corsair Vengeance DDR5@6600 CL30 | RTX4090 (+285/900) | QHD @240Hz G-Sync | 2x2TB Samsung 990 PRO | Killer WiFi 1675i | Oasis MK2 WC | Win 11 Home - TimeSpy Clevo X170KM-G | 11700KF | 64GB (4x16) Crucial Ballistix DDR4@3066 CL14 | RTX3080 (+220/1650) | QHD @165Hz G-Sync | 1TB WD SN850X + 1TB WD SN750 | Intel AX200 WiFi | Win 11 Pro - TimeSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcghalohell Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 hours ago, MiRaGe said: Gray or green? 😁 Green lol. I don't like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoothinize Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM I've just upgraded my wireless network card to Killer Wi-Fi 7 and it went like a breeze. Now I have two Killers. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidelloman Posted Tuesday at 08:49 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:49 PM 1 hour ago, smoothinize said: I've just upgraded my wireless network card to Killer Wi-Fi 7 and it went like a breeze. Now I have two Killers. 😁 been wondering for a while if that was possible, did you simply do a swap of cards? how's the performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoothinize Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Quote been wondering for a while if that was possible, did you simply do a swap of cards? how's the performance? Yep, straight swap. Driver automatically installed by Windows but I opted to get the drivers from Intel. I can't tell if there's some changes in performance since I still use WiFi 6 router, will see when the Velop Pro 7 arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidelloman Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, smoothinize said: Yep, straight swap. Driver automatically installed by Windows but I opted to get the drivers from Intel. I can't tell if there's some changes in performance since I still use WiFi 6 router, will see when the Velop Pro 7 arrives. you run windows 11? I heard microsoft won't support windows 10 wifi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoothinize Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Quote you run windows 11? I heard microsoft won't support windows 10 wifi 7 I'm running Windows 11 Pro 24H2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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