tolnep Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 im in in the market for a new laptop. Current laptop is precision 4800 with 32 gb memory and 2.5 TB diskspace. It runs Windows Server Datacenter 2022. its main purpose is to back up a desktop workstation running windows server datacenter. My main dev efforts are multiple VMs (its one reason i run datacenter) and various database systems, sql server, oracle, postgres on windows, rhel, unbuntu , debian. screen resolution is 3200 x 1800. l like the current size of the 4800. so i'd like to get a new laptop of approximately the size. its unclear with the 7680 what you give up compared to the 7780 and there appears to be a 'performance' version of the 7680 which is thicker and provides acess to an m2 drive. config target would be the top end cpu, 64 gigs of memory, 1TB drive, highest end resolution, biggest power supply, medium GPU since graphics is not something i need in a laptop. when i get it, im gonna try installing windows server datacenter 2022. dunno if it will work. but my latops going back to older 32 bit configs always ran windows server. i have an enterprise developer license that allows me to install any windows os i want. looking for a little help here. since i cant find details about the so-called performance case for the 7680. im not looking forward to not being able to carry extra batteries if i go somewhere, and i will miss my mouse buttons and full keyboard but it is what it is. thanks for any info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vooze Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Why not install Windows LTSB/LTSC? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3250464/faq-windows-10-ltsb-explained.html It's basically Server (clean OS) without Server roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Windows LTSC is definitely closer to regular Windows 10 than it is to Windows Server. It does exclude a lot of "fluff" though, basically all of the bundled UWP apps and related background services, and it is my choice whenever I can swing it. (I have my own article about it, linked in sig.) I have tried Windows Server on a laptop before and I recall running into some things like it being difficult to get Bluetooth working because required components weren't included and it wasn't obvious how to install them. I've also run into situations where some software (i.e. backup tools) will want you to pay more for a license because you are running on a server OS. But, if you can get past that sort of thing, it should be fine to use. Dell will support Windows 10 LTSC but I doubt that they will support Windows Server, if you have some issue with it. (Sounds like you're comfortable supporting the OS on your own, though...?) I do not think that you would have any trouble setting up Hyper-V VM workloads on Windows 10 LTSC. Regarding 7680 vs 7780, it is basically as you say. The systems are very similar. The main difference is the physical size and 7780 getting an extra NVMe slot. There is a modest performance difference as well, with 7780 getting higher power limits and a slightly beefier cooling system, allowing for both the CPU and GPU to run at slightly higher speeds. One other thing to note is that 7680 has a 16:10 display while 7780 has 16:9, so you get a bit more "desktop working space" on the 7680 even though the screen is technically smaller. With Dell slimming up the bezels and everything, you will see Precision 7680 being a bit smaller than your M4800. Precision 7780 would be larger, but not as large as a Precision M6800. Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhongze12345 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I wholeheartedly agree that the M4800 is the last of its kind. It has been 2 years since I have last used an M4800, and I'm itching to get my hands on one again, especially since my 7760 is having some issues... Anyway, I digress. The 7x80 systems have the same chassis as the 7x70 chassis, so the difference between the thin/performance 7680 chassis will be the same difference as with the 7670. The RTX 3500 and up will give you the performance chassis. Main #1: Precision 7760 (i9, A4000, 64GB, 2TB, 4K 120Hz), Main #2: Latitude 9430 2-in-1 (i7, 16GB, 256GB, QHD+ touch), Main #3: Precision 7530 (i5 8400H, P2000, 64GB, 512GB, 1080p), Main #4: XPS 15 7590 (i7, GTX 1650, 32GB, 1TB, 4K touch), Precision M6800 (i7, FirePro M6100), 2x Precision M4800 (i7 4900MQ, K2100M, QHD+), 2x Precision M4700 (i7 3740QM, 8GB, 512GB), Precision M6600 (i7 2720MQ, Quadro 3000M, 16GB, 256GB), 2x Precision M6500 (i5 Q740, FirePro M7820, 8GB, 300GB, RGB LED screen), Precision M4500 (i7 Q720, 8GB, 512GB), Precision M6400 (T8400, Quadro FX 2700M, 4GB, 80GB), Inspiron 17 5767 (i7, Radeon R7 M440, 16GB, 1TB), Inspiron 5748 (i5 4210U, 8GB, 512GB SSD), Thinkpad T410, Latitude E6410 (i5 M560, 8GB, 512GB, 900p), Latitude E4300, Inspiron 1525, 2x Latitude D620, Latitude D530, Inspiron 6000, 2x Latitude L400, Thinkpad T43, Thinkpad T42, Thinkpad T41, Thinkpad 600E, 1996 Latitude LM, and many more... Macs: 2x 2012 Unibody 13" MBP (i5, 8GB, 256GB), 2011 15" MBP (i7, 8GB, 256GB, matte hi-res), 2009 17" MBP, 2008 Unibody 15" MBP, 2x 2006 17" MBP (2.16GHz, 2.33GHz), 2x early 2008 15" MBP (2.4GHz), 2007 Polycarbonate MacBook, 15" Powerbook G4 (1.5GHz), 2x 17" PowerBook G4, iBook G3 12" (500MHz), 2x iBook G4 12" (1.33GHz), 2x iBook G4 14" (1.33GHz, 1.42GHz), Titanium PB G4 Vintage Macintosh: 2x PowerBook 180, 2x PB 165, PB 170, PB 160, Clamshell iBook G3 (300MHz, blueberry), 2x PowerBook G3 "Wallstreet" Spoiler Latitude E4300: SP9400, 4GB, 256GB Inspiron 1525: T9500, 4GB, 1680x1050 2x Latitude D620: T2400, 2GB, 256GB, 1440x900 Latitude D530: T7250, 2GB, 80GB Inspiron 6000: P4 Thinkpad T43: Pentium M 750, 512MB RAM, 60GB HDD Thinkpad T42: Pentium M, 512MB, 80GB Thinkpad T41: Pentium M, 512MB, 60GB Thinkpad 600E: Pentium II (CMOS and fan replacement in progress) Early 2008 15" MBP: T8300, 4GB, 200GB, 900p Early 2007 15" MBP: T7500, 2GB, 120GB Early 2006 17" MBP: T2600, 2GB, 120GB PowerBook G4 Al 15": G4 1.5GHz, 768MB, 60GB 2x iBook G4: 1.33GHz iBook G3: 500MHz 1996 Latitude LM: 133MHz Pentium MMX, 24MB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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