Ray Tracing on M18xR2 - RTX 3000 MXM Upgrade!

[Jerryzago]

13 hours ago, jonv8944s said:

Because I cant leave well enough alone... lol... I did a fresh install of windows 11 (previously was on Win10), and I cant seem to get my system to agree that my RTX 3000 is fine.

 How do I fix this?  Previously it had no drivers and was being called some "3D video" or something, so I did the old method on here of taking that .inf file and dropping it in the NVIDIA install directory while installing the newest drivers.  I thought it was fine, until I see that explanation point next to the NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 adapter.

 

If you are feeling generous, also share how I can fix some of the 'Other devices' section which show issues too?

  

Do a complete driver uninstall using DDU and selecting NVIDIA GPU.

 

Use NVCleaninstall for driver installation. Select not the latest version of drivers from the drop down list, add your hardware ID and select the proper Quadro RTX 3000 from the top down menu with the same hardware ID. 

 

Select the built package method and then do the driver install. I am also on windows 11 with my M18x R2 and I had to disable the GPU scheduling from advanced graphics settings to stop the constant BSOD all the time

[jonv8944s]

DDU caused issues for me and emcze when we used it to uninstall.  Which eventually forced me to go back to windows 10.  So I am a little apprehensive with using it again. 

 

I'd rather do a full wipe and reinstall and use nvciclean if thats the only way people are getting this to work.  I havent ever successfully gotten my RTX 3000 to work with Windows 11, only Windows 10.

 

I tried the DDU and reinstall and it bsod's my system earlier in this topic.

[emcze]

Hi @jonv8944s

 

I still work with Win 11 , last time with driver 560.94

 

 

On this driver first time I don't have a problem with NVIDIA Platform Controllers and Framework

 

 

  

19 hours ago, jonv8944s said:

If you are feeling generous, also share how I can fix some of the 'Other devices' section which show issues too?

 

Almost everythink I installed via Windows Update \ Advenced Options \ Optional Updates

 

I had only 2 without driver.

It was Device ACPI\CPL0002 - COMPAL Embedded System Control

 

https://driverpack.io/en/hwids/ACPI\CPL0002?os=windows-7-x64

 

and Device ACPI\SMO8810\1 - STMicroelectronics 3-Axis Digital Accelerometer

 

https://driverpack.io/en/hwids/ACPI\SMO8810?os=windows-10-x64

 

You need to download both zip, unpack and force install inf file with right button menu.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jonv8944s]

@emcze

 

Thanks!   Drivers you linked worked to eliminate 2 of my probelm devices.  But I also upgraded my system to newest intel wifi and blutooth, so I think those remaining drivers are for those items (that are no longer needed because they are replaced with newer hardware)?  Maybe I need to disable them?

 

Also, still no luck with getting the RTX 3000 fully recognized by Windows 11.  What approach did you use to get it working?  The way I did windows 10 approach (what we have documented in this discussion), isnt working for windows 11 for me.  I used the download and  'copy ini' file approach you outlined previously, but not working here.  Did you use a different method for Windows 11 vs Windows 10?

[emcze]

17 minutes ago, jonv8944s said:

But I also upgraded my system to newest intel wifi and blutooth, so I think those remaining drivers are for those items (that are no longer needed because they are replaced with newer hardware)? 

 

I upgraded to AX210 too and all drivers were installed automaticly 

 

 

30 minutes ago, jonv8944s said:

(that are no longer needed because they are replaced with newer hardware)? 

 

No, if device is not present driver are not active.

 

In device manager, go to this device properitis, go to events and you should have device pci number like this:

 

5 hours ago, emcze said:

Device ACPI\SMO8810\1

 

copy this number to google and you should know what is it. 

 

25 minutes ago, jonv8944s said:

Did you use a different method for Windows 11 vs Windows 10?

 

I use the same method, but is easier to prepare NVCleanstall driver.

 

Here is one of mine:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g77HiTcdJfHaDzR-maV6LgnovIP7h026/view?usp=sharing

 

Remember to start system with driver signature enforcement before install.

[jonv8944s]

You mean to DISABLE drive enforcement, right?

 

"Remember to start system with driver signature enforcement before install."

[jonv8944s]

Here are the ones I still have issues with:

 

First one:

USB\VID_413C&PID_8197\74E543507339

USB\VID_413C&PID_8197&REV_0112
USB\VID_413C&PID_8197
 

Second one:

ROOT\UNNAMED_DEVICE\0003
ACPI\NVDA0820
 

Third one:

ACPI\DELLABCE\2&DABA3FF&0
ACPI\VEN_DELL&DEV_ABCE
ACPI\DELLABCE
*DELLABCE
 

 

I did try the google thing on them, but I was not able to come up with those exact links like you had.  Those immediately fixed the 2 you gave me links for.  

[emcze]

6 hours ago, jonv8944s said:

Second one:

ROOT\UNNAMED_DEVICE\0003
ACPI\NVDA0820

 

NVIDIA Platform Controllers and Framework

 

6 hours ago, jonv8944s said:

Third one:

ACPI\DELLABCE\2&DABA3FF&0
ACPI\VEN_DELL&DEV_ABCE
ACPI\DELLABCE
*DELLABCE

 

try this

 

https://driverpack.io/en/hwids/ACPI\DELLABCE

 

6 hours ago, jonv8944s said:

First one:

USB\VID_413C&PID_8197\74E543507339

USB\VID_413C&PID_8197&REV_0112
USB\VID_413C&PID_8197

 

try this

 

https://driverpack.io/en/hwids/USB\VID_413C%26PID_8197

 

 

Graphic Card was installed with my driver ??

[jonv8944s]

@

@emcze

You literally are THE BEST.  You helped me get another device found.  But it doesnt look like the Broadcom one worked, but the other one did.  Here is my current 'problem children'  (REALLY appreciate all your support here, you have been the best at helping me!)

 

[emcze]

Can you show me what you have on graphic card ?? 

 

 

10 minutes ago, jonv8944s said:

But it doesnt look like the Broadcom one worked,

 

try this https://dl.dell.com/network/R280283.exe

 

[jonv8944s]

I JUST installed your driver for the graphics card!! woot woot! it worked!  Sorry I totally forgot to do that yesterday... omg!  you are THE BEST EVER!!

 

Ok BUT it brought up new issue with something that wasn't previously showing as an issue I think:

 

[jonv8944s]

14 minutes ago, emcze said:

Can you show me what you have on graphic card ?? 

 

 

 

try this https://dl.dell.com/network/R280283.exe

 

I get this error when I try that one:

[jonv8944s]

Wow, I am getting closer! Your link to 'forced' website is awesome! Fixed my "card reader" driver issue with it.

 

Now just stuck with the 2 issues:

BCM20702A0

NVIDIA Platform Controllers and Framework

 

IF I get these 2 fixed, I have a perfectly healthy upgraded system!!!!

[emcze]

NVIDIA Platform Controllers is not important. I will try prepare another one driver ( the same like mine ) without this issue.

 

Maybe this for broadcom ?? :

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ivD-6ADtDL8zQaXF0Xoza1caZj-TAp7Q/view?usp=sharing

 

 

EDIT:

560.94 the same like mine:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EHV3H6PTcTKFauzJ2peKYSjWnof-_NTG/view?usp=sharing

 

 

 

[jonv8944s]

1 hour ago, emcze said:

NVIDIA Platform Controllers is not important. I will try prepare another one driver ( the same like mine ) without this issue.

 

Maybe this for broadcom ?? :

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ivD-6ADtDL8zQaXF0Xoza1caZj-TAp7Q/view?usp=sharing

 

 

EDIT:

560.94 the same like mine:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EHV3H6PTcTKFauzJ2peKYSjWnof-_NTG/view?usp=sharing

 

 

 

 

Well, the Broadcom driver hurt just as much as it helped.  Its what I was worried about.  It seems to be turning on the old Bluetooth and now conflicts with my intel Bluetooth.  I think I have to go disable it, no?

 

[jonv8944s]

2 things:

 

1. When I did your newest RTX3000 driver the nvidia platform controllers and framework went away BUT then the system started crashing about 1 minute after I got into windows 11.

 

So I quickly got into nvidia control panel and turned off vsync.... only because I saw that was something you guys said was bad previously in the thread.

 

Was this the right way to do it ?

 

[jonv8944s]

2.  Here is the crash:

 

[jonv8944s]

Oh after reading again, I think I need to turn vsync back on, you were just doing it for the testing.

 

also why do I have no check box for physX?

 

What do I need to fix?

 

[jonv8944s]

Ok this will be my last addition until @emcze shares his wisdom to my many questions.

 

this just started happening after I did the broadcom AND RTX nvcleaninstal drivers:

 

 

 

maybe I need to do a fresh install and use all the right drivers this time instead of the numerous ones I ‘tried’ that didn’t work?

[emcze]

46 minutes ago, jonv8944s said:

Well, the Broadcom driver hurt just as much as it helped. 

 

Maybe problem is with Broadcom and your other device because I don't have this issue

 

 

29 minutes ago, jonv8944s said:

 Here is the crash:

 

 

crash looks like you should disable the GPU scheduling one more time. Maybe after instalation new GPU driver Windows turned it on.

 

25 minutes ago, jonv8944s said:

also why do I have no check box for physX?

 

What do I need to fix?

 

I wrote about it in another thread. 

 

go for driver and install it

[aldarxt]

On 9/3/2024 at 3:01 PM, jonv8944s said:

Because I cant leave well enough alone... lol... I did a fresh install of windows 11 (previously was on Win10), and I cant seem to get my system to agree that my RTX 3000 is fine.

 How do I fix this?  Previously it had no drivers and was being called some "3D video" or something, so I did the old method on here of taking that .inf file and dropping it in the NVIDIA install directory while installing the newest drivers.  I thought it was fine, until I see that explanation point next to the NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 adapter.

 

If you are feeling generous, also share how I can fix some of the 'Other devices' section which show issues too?

  

Which .inf file did you edit? My m18xr2 with 546.29 driver and nvdmig.inf edit is working fine. But I had some issues with later drivers so I went back. Also I had trouble editing the right .inf cause different drivers change the name of the .inf's. Like 552.22 has nvdmwi.inf

[emcze]

7 hours ago, aldarxt said:

But I had some issues with later drivers so I went back. Also I had trouble editing the right .inf cause different drivers change the name of the .inf's. Like 552.22 has nvdmwi.inf

 

If you use NVCleanstall, program will use right inf file.

 

Or you can download driver prepared by me.

 

On 9/5/2024 at 4:47 PM, emcze said:

560.94 the same like mine:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EHV3H6PTcTKFauzJ2peKYSjWnof-_NTG/view?usp=sharing

 

 

 

[aldarxt]

On 9/25/2024 at 2:29 AM, emcze said:

 

If you use NVCleanstall, program will use right inf file.

 

Or you can download driver prepared by me.

 

 

Thanks @emcze, I downloaded your driver but my m18xr2 is running perfectly and am afraid to touch it. Its getting worn out from all the years of tearing it apart so I'll wait for it to tell me it has a problem I just can't live with. Right now the keyboard lights are out but I can live with that because I use a usb wired keyboard. I recently installed a MOBO in my m17xr4 and tried to change the service tag with "Dell Support Live Image" without success so I purchased a win 11 pro key and just going with that. Also made a purchase from https://www.x-vsion.com/product/mxm-rtx-4050-gpu-powerful/

to see if it works in the m17xr4 or maybe 1 of the laptops I have

 

[ssj92]

4 hours ago, aldarxt said:

Thanks @emcze, I downloaded your driver but my m18xr2 is running perfectly and am afraid to touch it. Its getting worn out from all the years of tearing it apart so I'll wait for it to tell me it has a problem I just can't live with. Right now the keyboard lights are out but I can live with that because I use a usb wired keyboard. I recently installed a MOBO in my m17xr4 and tried to change the service tag with "Dell Support Live Image" without success so I purchased a win 11 pro key and just going with that. Also made a purchase from https://www.x-vsion.com/product/mxm-rtx-4050-gpu-powerful/

to see if it works in the m17xr4 or maybe 1 of the laptops I have

 

If that 4050 is anything like A4500 was, then you are going to have a hard time getting it recognized. I recommend SG mode in M17xR4. And if that doesn't work, try my M18xR1 trick. Use M18xR2, primary slot a gpu that works in PEG and then gpu2 will be RTX 4050. 

 

Good luck 

[Jerryzago]

6 hours ago, aldarxt said:

@emcze made a purchase from https://www.x-vsion.com/product/mxm-rtx-4050-gpu-powerful/

to see if it works in the m17xr4 or maybe 1 of the laptops I have

 

Isn't the 4050 a MXM type A? M17x R4 works with MXM type B? Maybe it will fit in the slot but you will not be able to screw it in place, and stock heatsink won't fit!