Mr. Fox Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Okey-dokey. As the title implies, here is a thread for Linux users to share new information, tips, tweaks and help others fix issues they encounter using the Windows replacement of their choice. 2 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KF | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 48GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Raptor // Z690 PG Velocita | 13900KS | 2080 Ti | 32GB DDR5-6400 | RM1200x SHIFT | EK Nucleus CR360 Dark || Praxis Wetbench Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 11, 2022 Author Share Posted April 11, 2022 So, I had been using primarily Linux Mint and Pop_OS! with Cinnamon DE. With my recent upgrade to 12900K there were a number of things not working. I discovered that the latest beta of Fedora adds functionality to what was broken with Mint and Pop_OS! In particular cpupower-gui works as intended. You can now control the clocks of each core (both P and E core). I like it better than the last version of cpupower-gui that I was using with 10th Gen. It adds a good amount of features that older versions did not have. Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KF | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 48GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Raptor // Z690 PG Velocita | 13900KS | 2080 Ti | 32GB DDR5-6400 | RM1200x SHIFT | EK Nucleus CR360 Dark || Praxis Wetbench Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 The biggest issue I had with a few different flavours of Linux was lack of a control panel (same with windows 10 actually) I couldn't get my head around not being able to see which drivers it was using for what hardware. General setup or change configuration (win 10 really screwed with me trying to hide the control panel ) This was all out of the box linux, no compiling kernels or anything technical. My last experiment was Zorin OS. Based on Ubuntu and looks really similar to windoze. Once I'm more comfortable with command line I might look at other distros. My next 'laptop' will be a Janktop. I will be trying to expunge M$ windows in favour of Zorin at that time. (With a VM windows10 for those softwares that I cant replace immediately) 2 Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10 RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 The information is there, but it is not at our fingertips the way it was with Windows 7 and earlier versions of Windows 10. One of the issues that holds Linux back from being a better product is Linux zealots that are driven by irrational hate. They are just little bit worse than the dummies that complain that Linux isn't exactly the same as the reason(s) people leave Windows in favor of Linux. Somewhere in the middle, the "do what makes sense" and not being hesitant to copy or emulate a good idea we would find a solution but for the extremists on opposing ends of the spectrum. Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KF | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 48GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Raptor // Z690 PG Velocita | 13900KS | 2080 Ti | 32GB DDR5-6400 | RM1200x SHIFT | EK Nucleus CR360 Dark || Praxis Wetbench Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I know you must be right. I just didnt dive deep enough to find the information. Soon its all in, no more toes in the water. Yep, extremism, bane of the world! Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10 RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Does anyone know of something similar to throttlestop for Linux? Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10 RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 18 hours ago, Vasudev said: Actually you can use TS via cmdline undervolt on linux For GUI version there is AppImage (equivalent to portable app on Windows) https://appimage.github.io/linux-intel-undervolt-gui/ or debian package Github releases Thank you @Vasudev This is the kind of valuable information Linux idiots like me require to abandon windoze 1 Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10 RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasudev Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Eban said: Thank you @Vasudev This is the kind of valuable information Linux idiots like me require to abandon windoze Don't add it as a startup service. I had black screen issues when undervolt was too low and newer microcode didn't accept. With TS it will auto revert but in linux you will be seeing only blackscreen and no info. You need to disable secure boot to undervolt otherwise kernel will deny any read/write requests to CPU/MMIO. Undervolt package can read from TS ini and could apply the undervolt when cmdline is used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnoob13 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 8:11 AM, Eban said: Does anyone know of something similar to throttlestop for Linux? Not as close, but TLP is useful to tweak power consumption profile, adjust CPU freq, switch off turbo-boost (assuming you want to do it like me), etc. esp. when you using a laptop. 1 Dell Precision 7560: i7-11800H 2.3GHz (8 Cores) | 32GB DDR4-3200 Crucial Memory | Nvidia RTX A4000 Laptop GPU 8GB GDDR6 | 1TB + 256GB Samsung NVMe SSD | Pop!OS 20.04 (daily driver) + Windows 10 (once in a while) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eban Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Thank you I have put linux on pause for a while. I had a fit gave up trying to get undervolt and nvidia drivers working properly I will try again with PopOS at some point, it was the best out of the box for nvidia drivers Thunderchild // Lenovo Legion Y740 17" i7-9750H rtx2080maxQ win10 RainBird // Alienware 17 (Ranger) i7-4910mq gtx860m win8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnoob13 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Yeah, PopOS gives the best out-of-the-box linux experience for nvidia, at least for me. Been trying a few distros and DEs over the past few years (for fun and professional purposes) to find myself always come back to PopOS. 🙂 1 Dell Precision 7560: i7-11800H 2.3GHz (8 Cores) | 32GB DDR4-3200 Crucial Memory | Nvidia RTX A4000 Laptop GPU 8GB GDDR6 | 1TB + 256GB Samsung NVMe SSD | Pop!OS 20.04 (daily driver) + Windows 10 (once in a while) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 This New Linux Kernel Update Can Damage Your Laptop Display tomshardware.com According to a report by Phoronix, a new Linux kernel - version 5.19.12, is reportedly damaging laptop displays. This is one of the very few times we've ever seen a software update - not related to overclocking, have the power to damage a computer component physically. This issue effects all Intel-based notebooks where the integrated display is wired directly to the integrated graphics. This means all Nvidia Optimus laptops, and some potential Intel + Radeon combined laptops (though we effectively never see those) are at risk as well - since the iGP is driving the primary display even while the discrete GPU is active. The only exception to this, is if the notebook in question can disable Nvidia Optimus entirely or the internal display is not hooked up to an Intel integrated graphics solution at all. Such laptops are rare, but they do exist. Thankfully, this only applies with Intel graphics solutions, and means all AMD-based notebooks with AMD CPUs or APUs are not affected. The Fix Is Already Here Fortunately, the Linux community has already released a new kernel that reverts all the problematic issues found in the graphics driver back to what they were in previous kernel updates. This new kernel is known as 5.19.13, and has already been released for everyone to use. However, chances are that most users will have to wait for their respected Linux distros to roll out the kernel update before the mainstream users get a chance to use it. I'm sure there is some here that remember the black screen issues a few years ago with windows machines (Alienware and Clevo's). Not a fun experience. Now they are at risk with Linux as well. Not so sure it will be as easy this time to fix destroyed displays. So take your precautions before it's too late. It seems Linux follow another well known OS..... 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/4/2022 at 11:26 PM, Papusan said: This New Linux Kernel Update Can Damage Your Laptop Display tomshardware.com According to a report by Phoronix, a new Linux kernel - version 5.19.12, is reportedly damaging laptop displays. This is one of the very few times we've ever seen a software update - not related to overclocking, have the power to damage a computer component physically. This issue effects all Intel-based notebooks where the integrated display is wired directly to the integrated graphics. This means all Nvidia Optimus laptops, and some potential Intel + Radeon combined laptops (though we effectively never see those) are at risk as well - since the iGP is driving the primary display even while the discrete GPU is active. The only exception to this, is if the notebook in question can disable Nvidia Optimus entirely or the internal display is not hooked up to an Intel integrated graphics solution at all. Such laptops are rare, but they do exist. Thankfully, this only applies with Intel graphics solutions, and means all AMD-based notebooks with AMD CPUs or APUs are not affected. The Fix Is Already Here Fortunately, the Linux community has already released a new kernel that reverts all the problematic issues found in the graphics driver back to what they were in previous kernel updates. This new kernel is known as 5.19.13, and has already been released for everyone to use. However, chances are that most users will have to wait for their respected Linux distros to roll out the kernel update before the mainstream users get a chance to use it. I'm sure there is some here that remember the black screen issues a few years ago with windows machines (Alienware and Clevo's). Not a fun experience. Now they are at risk with Linux as well. Not so sure it will be as easy this time to fix destroyed displays. So take your precautions before it's too late. It seems Linux follow another well known OS..... Good news is that 5.19 is cutting edge, common distros are on 5.15. Teething issue 😉 1 "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linux Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I am running Linux Mint and WIn11 in dual-boot mode. Is there a way to make GRUB use the external display as primary for boot selection? In addition i have the issue that BT isn't yet active in GRUB and i always have to open the laptop until the OS is being loaded. The BIOS of my P670HP6-G is outdated and doesn't have options regarding the display or BT like more modern ones. And yes, i always have to open the lid a little bit for pushing the power button, but that is nothing against the current ordeal. Especially when switching OS a couple of times during the day. 2017 Clevo Laptop, TuxedoOS/Win11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Does the BIOS boot selection menu (F11 etc) show up on the secondary monitor? If so, choosing which OS to boot via that might be easier for you. "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linux Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Only visible on the laptop display and selection is only possible with the laptop also, because BT isn't loaded yet. 2017 Clevo Laptop, TuxedoOS/Win11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Laptops... "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishayin Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I've been testing out a range of different distributions over the past few months. Here is a tool I found to be very useful on a couple of different occasions for rescuing non-booting Ubuntu based systems: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair https://askubuntu.com/questions/77666/how-do-i-recover-documents-from-a-broken-ubuntu-installation E.g. from CTRL-ALT-F2 for terminal prompt or from a live CD: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install boot-repair boot-repair 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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