ygohome Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Hello, On one of our 7710 4k laptops, the internal display quit working when we plugged it into AC adapter. The laptop was already on, running on battery, when we plugged it into AC adapter. When we did that, a 2" wide vertical black bar appeared, top to bottom, near the left side of the display. At first we thought it was just a weird driver issue and so we rebooted. It was running solely on the M5000M, not integrated at that time. On bootup the display remained black, no DELL logo splash screen. It was backlit at edges, and flickered and displayed lines in a plaid pattern (not as a test pattern). Then it went all black again (still backlit). We connected laptop to an external 2560x1440 display using mDP, but no image on the external. I rebooted again, and although I couldn't see what was happening because no image on internal or external, I assumed it was at the Win10 Login lock screen. I pressed FN+F8 four times: (Internal -> Duplicate -> Extened -> External Only) and then I could see with Windows Lock screen on the external display. That tells me the m5000m GPU is probably good, right? - Solution? I think I need to replace the 4k display. I havn't found the panel for sale online yet. Any recommended sellers or parts suppliers you recommend for best panels? I plan to order this exact same panel, as would be obvious because I don't want to introduce unknown problems. This is a laptop we use everyday for business and it is fully backed up each night. (full image backups of both NVMe drives). I printed out the Dell Precision 7710 Owners Manual which details (with images) how to Remove and Install all components. Display Part #s from hwinfo: DELL P/N: 2RCX9 Monitor Name: AU Optronics B173ZAN01.0 How hard is it to do a display replacement in a 7710? It doesn't look terriblly difficult and I'm pretty good at this sort of thing, but I've never replaced a laptop display before (I've replaced heatsinks, display assembly, etc., but never a display panel). Steps I'll follow to Remove Display Assemble: - Remove battery and back base cover - Remove keyboard bezel and keyboard - Remove WIFI card - Remove cosmetic hinge cap screws and cap - Remove metal eDP cable bracket shield from mobo - Remove eDP tape on heatpipe - Remove eDP - Remove Hinge Screws - Pry up edges of display assembly bezel - Remove 4 screws securing the panel to the assembly - flip over Display and Un-clip the other end of the eDP from Panels back Should I watch out for any gotcha' steps or any tips on this replacement? I thought about trying to enable Integrated GPU in BIOS, except I wouldn't be able to navigate the Bios since the internal display is not working. I have an identical other 7710 that is working, which I might be able to use to help navigate the BIOS blindly on the broken 7710. But even if that works, it would only be a workaround. Thanks, Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Replacing the display panel is even easier than that. You just need to pry off the display bezel, undo a few screws to free the panel, and then remove the display cable from the back of the panel (attached with both a clip and some tape). Despite what the manual says, there is no need to remove the bottom cover and detach anything from the motherboard (other than the battery maybe, just for safety?). I've done this multiple times with Precision M6700 and Precision 7510, and once with Precision 7530 and Precision 7560. To enable integrated graphics, just pull the coin-cell battery to reset BIOS settings to default and that will do it. You can also get into the BIOS without a working internal display. Connect an external display, mouse and keyboard; then, power on the laptop and quickly shut the lid. It should run the BIOS screens on the external display. Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygohome Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Thank you Aaron, the steps sound easy. I couldn't find the parts at Dell.com Found a seller named SCREENARAMA (from Canada) on Amazon sells a replacement for the B173ZAN01.0 for about $180 USD. It's sold as a replacement but I've no idea if it's actually an AUO (AU Optronics) or who makes it. Parts-People.com (good company, located in Texas) sells the actual OEM display for $250 USD, but they are out of stock. They have the OEM 40pin (4k) eDP & Camera cable bundle (they are loomed together) for about $30, and so I may purchase that from them. It might just be a cable problem and not display panel. The existing display panel is B173ZAN01.0 When searching online I'm seeing sellers with .0 through .4 according to specs: B173ZAN01.0 uses eDP 1.3 while B173ZAN01.4 is for eDP 1.4a https://www.panelook.com/modelcompare.php?ids=35517,25358 I'm not sure if an eDP 1.3 system can be used with an eDP 1.4a display panel, so I'm trying to stick with original .0 suffix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygohome Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 I'm going for the Amazon "Screenarama" seller. We'll see how this goes :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron44126 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Buying panels is tricky, for sure. This is a seven-year-old system and the panel that it originally shipped with is likely not manufactured anymore. I remember trying to get a replacement LG 1080p panel for Precision M6700 when that system was 6-7 years old, and it was impossible. I got an AUO panel from someone that worked as a replacement, but I ended up sending it back because the display quality was poor. A lot of sellers offer "compatible replacements" so as you note it might not be clear what you're actually going to get. They may work, but with lower quality than the old panel or pixel issues. (Most sellers won't guarantee zero dead/stuck pixels, and will even complain that is a ridiculous standard to meet when pressed... though Dell does make that guarantee themselves. It makes me think that they are getting reject panels that weren't sold in laptops because they have a defect. I'd happily pay a bit extra to guarantee no pixel issues if I needed a new panel.) 2 1 Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) • Dell Precision 7560 (work) • Full specs in spoiler block below Info posts (Windows) — Turbo boost toggle • The problem with Windows 11 • About Windows 10/11 LTSC Spoiler Apple MacBook Pro 16-inch, 2023 (personal) M2 Max 4 efficiency cores 8 performance cores 38-core Apple GPU 96GB LPDDR5-6400 8TB SSD macOS 15 "Sequoia" 16.2" 3456×2234 120 Hz mini-LED ProMotion display Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3 99.6Wh battery 1080p webcam Fingerprint reader Also — iPhone 12 Pro 512GB, Apple Watch Series 8 Dell Precision 7560 (work) Intel Xeon W-11955M ("Tiger Lake") 8×2.6 GHz base, 5.0 GHz turbo, hyperthreading ("Willow Cove") 64GB DDR4-3200 ECC NVIDIA RTX A2000 4GB Storage: 512GB system drive (Micron 2300) 4TB additional storage (Sabrent Rocket Q4) Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 15.6" 3940×2160 IPS display Intel Wi-Fi AX210 (Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.3) 95Wh battery 720p IR webcam Fingerprint reader Previous Dell Precision 7770, 7530, 7510, M4800, M6700 Dell Latitude E6520 Dell Inspiron 1720, 5150 Dell Latitude CPi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitje Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I've bought a panel from Screenarama before and was sent the panel I was looking for. I think it was either luck or they do stock the panels they list on Amazon. The panel in my M4800 is an Innolux N156HHE-GA1 was what I was looking for due to specs, and works fine. 2 Dell Precision 7540 (Delta fans equipped) | Not in use: HP Elitebook 8470P, ThinkPad X131e, ThinkPad T61, Dell Precision M4800 (dead), HP Zbook 15 G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygohome Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 Hello, We received the replacement panel today. It is an AUO panel, same part # as the OEM that we are replacing. That is good because, other than it recently not working, it's been a great display. The display arrived well packaged. It was triple bagged in three UPS padded bags, and with a foam protector and a removable film protecting the image side of the display. That was all packaged in a snug cardboard box labeled FRAGILE. When I was ordering I was specifically searching for a B173ZAN01.0 and the Amazon page description and specs said this was a replacement for the B173ZAN01.0 Our original OEM display is an AU Optronics B173ZAN01.0 <- Display Port 1.3 This replacement display is an AU Optronics B173ZAN01.4 <- Display Port 1.4 I learned that DP 1.4 is backward compatible with 1.3 and so this should work great. I'll begin repairs this evening when I'll update how the surgery went. Thank you, Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygohome Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 I allowed myself 4 hrs to complete this repair. Just incase I ran into problems. This took me under 20 minutes. The thin strips of double side adhesive tape that is around the inner perimeter of the bezel and display had me worried. It was really sticking and not letting go. Had to get rough with it. :D no problem. It all went back together beautifully. The new display looks awesome. Here are a few photos 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygohome Posted June 12, 2023 Author Share Posted June 12, 2023 We have two Dell 7710 4k laptops. Our other DELL 7710 original 4k display quit working today. Not the replacement display that we installed Dec of 2022, but the original display in our other laptop. ScreenRama is out of stock on the 7710 4k panel that we ordered last time. And I don't really feel comfortable ordering from overseas, especially if I need to RMA or warranty the panel later. I decided to order from Parts People who are in Austin Texas I want to keep these laptops lasting as long as possible. At about 8 years old, these are the longest lasting laptops I've owned. Very thankful for their longevity. Next big task will be to get these on Win11 sometime early next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygohome Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 The new display is working great. Parts People packaged it really nice and it was brand new, although old stock. The part Parts People shipped to us is B173ZAN01.0 which is exact same as the one I removed. When we ordered from ScreenOrama in 2022 they sent a revision .4, not a big deal because to me they work the same. I knew the version I was getting when I ordered it from Parts People Not only does my new display work, it is much brighter than the one I removed. Obviously the one I removed was completely broken, but in months leading up to that I noticed it was getting dimmer. I figured it had always been that way and it was only appearing dim next to my newer external monitors. It was dying for sure the past year because this new display is super bright, like looking into the sun in comparison. It also has really good vibrant colors. I only use these for coding so I'm no color expert, but it looks great to me. Very happy puchase. I accidentally cracked the corner of my display bezel during removal. It's just a hairline crack but it bothers me I think I may order a new replacement bezel from parts people too. Then one of the bezel magnets fell out and I couldn't figure out where it was supposed to go. So I reassembled it without the magnet, but then I learned the laptop uses the magnet to know when the lid is closed. I figured it out eventually here is where it goes if anyone else is slow like me: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitje Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, ygohome said: It also has really good vibrant colors. I only use these for coding so I'm no color expert, but it looks great to me. Very happy puchase. It's extremely good. And Notebookcheck reviewed a Schenker with the panel. It shouldn't have PWM so it should be really easy on the eyes. 1 Dell Precision 7540 (Delta fans equipped) | Not in use: HP Elitebook 8470P, ThinkPad X131e, ThinkPad T61, Dell Precision M4800 (dead), HP Zbook 15 G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuentincc Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 You are not forced to use any screen SKU, you can buy anything you want/like, just check the specs on panelook before hand (that's how I found and then bought used the superb BOE NE156QUM-N6C my 7550 is currently running with) Desktop / I7 12700K @5/4GHz 1.24v / MSI Z690 Edge Wifi DDR4 / 32GB DDR4 B-die @4000c15 / RTX 3080 EVGA XC3 Ultra / Triple 27" 4k120 + 2*4k60 XPS 9500 / I7 10750H @3.2GHz all-core / 32GB DDR4 2400MHz / GTX 1650Ti 4GB (upgrade to 8GB planned) @50W / 15.6" UHD / NVME / 86Wh XPS 9570 / I7 8750H @3.2GHz all-core / 32GB DDR4 2666MHz / GTX 1050 Ti 4GB @50W / 15.6" UHD touch / NVME / 97Wh Precision 7550 / I9 10885H @4.6GHz all-core / 32GB DDR4 2933MHz / Quadro RTX3000 6GB (upgrade to RTX5000 core + 16GB planned) @80W / 15.6" FHD IPS 500nits / NVME / 95Wh I was the one that run an overclocked I7 3920XM @4.2GHz all-core in a M6700 with 32GB 2133MHz DDR3L, a Quadro P4000 and a 4k eDP display (also did dual LVDS/eDP internal display) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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