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Is memory overclocking on Z890 similar to Z790? Also, did you sell your 5090? Are you running a 5080 and a 5090?

I was looking at PS5 and PS5 Pro specs as we near closer to GTA6 launch! Yeah lol. Console is locked in at 30fps with no performance modes available for 60fps even being an option. Apparently this limitation is due to the games CPU intensive scenarios. And since the PS5 Pro is running something similar to a Ryzen 3700x desktop 8/16 CPU but it’s clocked about 400-500Mhz slower, and only has 1/4 the L3 cache size of a standard Ryzen 3700X. This is why the 30fps cap is required on even the PS5 Pro. Anyways, I just found that interesting how weak-ish the PS5 Pro’s CPU really is.

I’m doing great! I hope you and your family are all good as well! Im still out of work, sleeping until 11am some days and hustling junk cars, hard to believe it’s been about 6 months now. Life is good! I started playing with Mvolt+ tonight, although I already had it, I haven’t really dug in to it. I just got the new one though, amazing app. My 5090 Astral has a pretty low Xbar like 2,490Mhz, so I focused my tuning there to try and gain some performance. I kept the card all stock for now 600w pwr, 0% voltage slider, auto fans, default memory +0 and default core clocks +0. I started adding voltage to my Xbar and saw performance degradation and Xbar even went down even lower lol. So then I started taking away Xbar voltage, I reached -20mv and the score improved slowly in Steel Nomad DX12, then I began adding Xbar clock frequency and reached +164. So I settled on a 15,500 Steel Nomad score on my 5090 Astral which is amazing. All stock power limit of 100%, and 0% voltage slider, no memory or core overclocking, or undervolting at all. So just with Xbar clocks going up. Then I undervolted the card to 900mv, OCed the memory +3,000, and it hit its 16,001 and even idling at 10 watts on the desktop. Not even really pushing the card at all. Great daily setup for air card.

Hey everyone! It’s been a while. Still rocking the same rig. One useful thing about the test bench is, we can move it to the living room! Ryzen 9950X3D2 (2200fclk) (2x16GB) Gskill DDR5 6000c26 kit @6400c26 with 1.500v VDD. X870 Strix motherboard 5090 astral. I run a Curve Optimizer per core on my 9950X3D2 which is tuned perfectly on each core. Some cores handle a -18 undervolt, and others can do a -33 undervolt. I found this worked best rather than setting a per CCD. I have considered water cooling my 5090 for the long haul since GPU’s have changed so much, but with the way they seem to be very limited inside the USA and even RMA issues being reported, I figured I probably won’t mess with any modifications at all. I’m not going to shunt mod it or even run the higher TGP bios. Probably not worth the risk with prices being what they are and at all. If it were a 5090FE that would be hard personally because they really need more power to compensate for the much softer “FE” bios. Anyways, 5090 Astral gets it done very well. I’m pretty sure it’s about 7 to 9% faster than a FE stock VS. stock.

Holy crap.. So that’s why the price shot up. I guess word got out about EOL. So maybe xx90 is gone forever and xx80 will be king again. I suppose it doesn’t hurt for 5090 owners right now. And maybe in the next gen, we will have a viable xx80 or xx80Ti that’s actually fast! This may be a good thing in a few years. AI has gotten ridiculous. And they are gobbling the 5090, so maybe they’ll be uninterested in 5080 or 6080 or 7080. Makes sense though, they want to sell more fresh releases RTX Pro 5500’s for MORE MONEY! And they need those 5090 cores! 💀

The 5090 pricing is really crazy right now for sure. I have not been tempted to sale my 5090 Astral, but my brother sure has been pestering me about selling it lol. Amazing GPU! I like it so much better than my FE, and I really liked my FE. But I think most of the likeness for the FE came from the low price and ability to actually get one fairly quickly after launch. I have decided to keep the 9950X3D2 that runs the 2,200fclk. The IMC has no issues stabilizing tuned 6400c26 with a mere 1.500v VDD, and 1.400v vddq. Using the new to me G.Skill 6000c26 sticks, and reducing VDDP voltage to 1.050v, has made its IMC feel just as strong as the other one. And now I actually got its tPHYRDL’s matching on both ram channels with both at 35, which is great! I noticed on AMD that they are sensitive to waterblock mounting pressure. And maybe this last mount last night swapping back to the 2,200fclk chip, must have gotten something perfect. I swapped between these two chips and unknown amount of times. I think I ran each one at least (3) times. This one also boosts higher in games. No PBO+ or anything like that is enabled. It’s running higher clocks on average by about 70-100Mhz. The AMD CCD0 and CCD1 in Windows is also quite good! I see my games typically use CCD0, while windows services are targeting the slower CCD1. It’s pretty amazing to see this work so well. For now I am hanging on to that 5090 Astral.

My new to me rams came!! MBPC.GG is totally legit. These bad boys were $429.99 which is amazing in today’s horrible hardware era. We shall play a game called “Limbo” and I’m going to run them at default 6000c26 Expo profile with merely a 65k tREFi and start taking voltage to see just how low they can go! @electrosoft After some testing on these 6000c26 rams with their stock Expo II timings and I only changed the tREFi to 65,535 I set 1.38v VDD and 1.35v VDDQ in bios and they are SOLID! They are definitely a decent enough bin. I will add this as well, this is with my weaker IMC X3D chip, my other CPU should run them with even lower VDD! Wow! 5090’s sale for $8,000-9,000 USD now.

I’m dying to know. Are you going to buy a $7,500-$8,500 dollar RTX 6090? 👀

I really wish this would happen. It’s crazy how CPU’s and motherboard are hardly impacted. I mean we have CPU’s like never before. We have the 270K plus which is super affordable. We can buy brand new or used X870 or Z890 Apex boards for dirt cheap. Even DDR5 is kinda do-able. Or we can find deals. My 6000c26 NEO kit for $430 bucks isn’t crazy at all. I think the PC hobby may just become one without a top tier GPU.

Yeah I just can’t see my self getting a RTX6090. I think of it like this, the RTX4090 cost $2,500+ so the RTX 5090 is at least +80% more expensive at $4,500 dollars. So we can only assume the RTX6090 at launch will be fetching $8,100+ dollars. And after it settles down probably closer to $7,000 dollars. So $7,000-$8,000 dollars. I cannot see anyway possible it would be less expensive than that. Are you going to get one? I think the gun hobby is the way! We could go buy a Barrett M82 50bmg instead! Or maybe automotive performance parts. Or even exotic unrealistic home improvements. High end GPU’s are dead forever it seems like. They’ll start building NVIDIA dealerships locally and we walk in and test drive the new RTX7090 and finance for 48-72 months with interest! 🤦‍♂️

This is disgusting. So sad to see end days of PC building. It’s becoming an ultra high end boutique hobby. Before long I will be changing hobbies. I think muscle cars or getting in to shooting more would be far better hobbies.

They did ship the memory. New ram kit will be here Monday! I did some research on the G.Skill 6000c26@1.400v and G.Skill 6000c26@1.450v kits. And read so much about both kits from the pro’s and extreme binning enthusiasts. So it’s literally just luck of the draw, but the 1.450v kit can be better than the 1.400v kit, and the 1.400v kit can be better than the 1.450v kit. But the 1.450v kits are not lesser than the 1.400v kits by default. But either kits are both equally binned and it’s completely luck of the draw with winning the memory silicon lottery with either kit. Some kits can do 6000c26@1.330vdd some need slightly more.

So 100% stability tested on all three tested 9950X3D2’s. (1) 2167fclk@6000c26 SP117 (Ultra Weak IMC) (This turd already went back) Ran this one on the Dark Hero open box I had. (2) 2200fclk@6200c26 SP118 (Cores use the least power of all, ultra efficient highest clocking chip, it uses the least pwr and has some very low temps. (I actually may have just stabilized 6400c26@1:1) I noticed a discrepancy in screenshots. The auto CLDO VDDP voltage was running at 1.150v stock, my other chip with the strong IMC will automatically run this at 1.045v. So I changed it on this one, and now it’s running VT3 at 6400c26 1:1. 🤷‍♂️ (3) 2167fclk@6400c26 SP118. The chip has such an easy going IMC, it’s just hard not to love it. But the cores don’t run as high although it’s still very good. I’ll probably be keeping chip #2. Further testing will be done with new G.Skill 6000c26 ram kit. Finally a high binned kit to test!

Nice kit! Ram is expensive! These prices are becoming normal is all, and something like that $595 price tag for 8400 G.Skill sticks feels like a good buy. For anyone interested, there is another kit just like @Mr. Fox bought on Jawa.gg they have a make an offer option. $650 OBO. https://www.jawa.gg/product/133577/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-ddr5intel-xmp-ddr5-8400-cl40-48gb-2x24gb

I was happy with the 5090FE for its price tag and base level 5090 performance. It was only $1,999.00, not even $1,999.99. 😂. So for that price tag it’s really good. I had it apart too many times and it held up great, but I was super careful. I didn’t like that I couldn’t flash the bios. But then again, my 5090 Astral OC runs the original stock 600w bios and it’s not even shunted, but I have tried the XOC bios once. I’m so much happier with the Astral though, I can’t exaggerate that enough, even though the Astral was $3700. It’s just a far better GPU. Performance is significantly better on the Astral too compared to a stock air-cooled FE. The Astral is freaking massive, and I do not like and would not trade for a 5090 FE. 😎