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Has anyone here melted their cable yet? I see many ordering the Powerview II. Looks pretty dang nice!

It is full of compromises yes! But, with some re-pasting, with some tweaks in Throttle stop, it has turned into a butter smooth gaming beast where you find yourself just enjoying the experience of gaming or working, without seeing any limits the machines may have. See, it's okay to have a 4090-gaming laptop when you own a 5090-gaming desktop. I think if we can accept that laptops offer a lower level of performance compared to desktops, but they can provide a smooth portable experience, then we'll be okay with them. I owned an Intel ARC B580, and that thing absolutely sucked in comparison to my 4090 laptop GPU, they were many miles apart. So, it was far better than that was! lol. No VR support, horrible upscaling, weak performance in games. If I get tired of the laptop, I just walk over to my desktop. So, since I have a fallback system, I am okay with any downsides with the laptop has, and I think that is why some can bare it. If I do sell it, I probably won't get another laptop.

I do not remember using it with my Sager 15" 8086K laptop. I remember benching/gaming without any sort of phantom throttling. I was battling heat with that thing most of all. The biggest issue I have had with this laptop is not really throttling, but the bios is so locked down that I could not turn off the CPU power saving features. When I play games on it, Intel SpeedStep and C1E were just always working at their hardest. So, all of the CPU cores were flickering down/up/down/up/down to lo/high frequencies. All of the CPU core frequencies looked something like this graph below. And this was causing GPU usage to just tank. Since installing throttlestop, I have turned those features off, it has allowed me to change the max pwr limit some as well. It was also causing micro stuttering really bad. For the first time, the machine actually runs smooth. PS: I am running my default GPU bios again with full performance. I am not sure why its performance was gimped before. The machine is able to run normal 5.1-5.2Ghz in games, and 3.9-4.1Ghz on the E-Cores in games. I keep my 4090 undervolted to 2.1Ghz@800mv so the CPU always runs full speed in games, and those two are not fighting over power sharing.

That’s insane! I’m shocked by the MSI cable burning up on people, you won’t see me running one now with a shunted 1200w 5090fe though. But, I did run a MSI 1KW BABY PSU with yellow tip cable on my 4090 Gaming OC which had the 666w bios on it. Never had a single issue. I didn’t undervolt that card much, I just blasted it to the max 2,940Mhz daily that it would run in 4K. No issues with the yellow tip MSI 2x6-12v cable while I had it. I have been playing the new Mafia Old Country game lately with my 5090, I was playing for hours, decided to check MSI AB graph after closing the game out. Little did I know it’s chugging along at 900 watts during cut scenes. Little dinky Lian Li 2x6-12v cable is doing the job well though. They are plugged in completely. Power usage goes crazy when I’m not looking though, I don’t really keep an eye on it like that anymore. Definitely shocked to see a 9070xt burn like that, when my 4090 was excellent. These cables are nuts. I don’t understand it.

Yeah this thing is completely locked down. The only thing it has working in its favor right now is, I repasted it with TG putty and Supercool LM, did the whole shebang all up. So temps are great (compared to stock temps) And it feels like the 14900HK might be a good sample, but I’m speculating here. But, you can’t undervolt it. So it’s always just blasting away with auto voltage while it shoots upwards of 5,850 boost browsing around windows lol. 😂 (And apparently these chips degrade? ) it’s some how completely reliable though, and mine has not degraded. But if it’s gonna happen it’ll be in this exact scenario. #1 Hot CPU? CHECK! #2 Auto voltage going wild? CHECK! You do get what you pay for with MSI, and I keep hearing about Lenovo being really good as well. If I could pick a single option, it would be to have the ability to set tREFI manually to 262k, would probably opt for that instead of CPU voltage control. That alone would drastically boost gaming performance. These laptop manufacturers need better engineers/design teams.

Hey everyone. Man, throttle stop is amazing. Am I just learning how to use this tool, and what it’s actually for? What the heck is wrong with me lol. 😆 i have been over here dealing with some low GPU usage, and very weak CPU clocks, and poor 1% lows. Now I’m gaming and my 14900HX will nearly hold 5.2P/4.1E in most games FOREVER. After long duration, it’s still holding 4.9-5.1P, and eventually goes back to 5.2/4.1. I had reinstalled windows on my machine which was running very poorly. And speed step was kinda hindering its performance. I’m super impressed here with this 14900HX, never really liked it all that much until now I suppose.

Hey friends just a quick note. I used Microsoft Copilot to help with some more undervolting profiles. And it actually works very well and gives good numbers very quickly, it makes it a little faster too than testing each profile. So far this method works with my GPU. I told MS Copilot that my 5090 can run Furmark 4K at 3,082Mhz@940mv and it can run the same test at 3,322Mhz@1075mv. So then I can quickly ask it “what frequency” it can run at every other voltage point in between. It told me 3190@995mv, which also works perfectly fine. I type it in, and it runs it completely stable lol. It helps to know the top and low with your GPU of course. And you must be keying in 100% stable high/low profiles. You might have a profile that seems stable, but crashes in games after 3 or 4 hours.

Oh yeah I agree, I just enjoy dreaming from time to time, I personally cannot afford any of these CPU’s right now lol. Hopefully you find something soon though employment wise. I’m about to be right there with you. I’m ready to move jobs. I’ve been employed with same company for over 5 years now. Have been making the same money for the last 4 years of that, but my qualifications and workloads have changed substantially to doing more and more. It’s just not sustainable anymore.

New TRX50 Threadrippers are the absolute best chips available. Intel is supposed to be dropping their equivalent at some point. But nothing yet. I’d want one of the 9970X chips which are 32/64 cores. And don’t forget the Threadripper 9980X 64/128, people are hitting 150,000 in R23 with those chips on air cooling at just 5.1Ghz, and they can push MUCH more on ambient custom water cooling. For $4,500 USD street price. Now, if someone is gaming and needs lots of CPU power, the Threadripper 9980X kinda sucks. Too many cores. And not really viable. Games just don’t handle it as well. I think Process Lasso might fix this though. This is where the 9970X 32/64 comes in, these chips clock super high. And they absolutely throw down in gaming with performance comparable to the standard 9950X Ryzen chip, and some random outlier results with even better performance than the 9950X. This is where the 9970X will outpace the 9980X though. I have seen a comparison and it gets oddly obliterated in the 1% lows. Even in heavy multithreaded loads we see the 9970X pull ahead of the 9980X. This makes the 9980X only about +25% faster on average. So I really think the best balance is 9970X (32/64) I do not recommend the Threadripper pro chips at all for any gaming due to the OCTO channel memory which will double bandwidth, but also double the latency. (who would? lol)😂 I think the entry level TRX50 is excellent with amazing future upgrade ability for YEARS. I love these big brute systems. My current Dominus Extreme and w3175x performs great in gaming and all of my work apps. But that’s the end of the line. There is no newer higher core count drop in CPU which is unfortunate. And that’s where I think a TRX50 motherboard really shines. Someone could snag a 24/48 9960X for now, and in 5 years they could drop in a 9980X when it’s more in range price wise lol.

Absolutely lol. Those cheaper 90's will leak. I have seen some brand-new one's leak if any sideways pressure is applied due to weight of a hose or something, and the swivel gets STIFF. The last time I had one leak, I found a small puddle on the back of my 5090FE when it was on air cooling. The scary thing is, I am still using some of them in my build in random places lol. (Those have not shown any signs if leaking and my loop fortunately holds air, but if I could go back I probably would not have used the cheaper 90’s) @Reciever Maybe add another pump D5 with the basic top only in the near future in case one fails. The extra pressure and flow allow you to not depend on running 1 single pump at 100% for good performance. Those big rads like flow. Then you can run more pumps and lower speeds or on a PWM profile. Mine are setup where all (4) pumps fall to 20% speed when the CPU is below 50c. If CPU goes over 50c, it means my GPU is pushing some frames, or I am running a load lol. With 1 pump, you can run it on the auto/lower PWM RPM, let the water temp reach equilibrium under a full system load, then unplug the pumps PWM, the pump will shoot up to max RPM or max flow rate. You will then see the temps drop on all of your components. This alone tells us more flow will be beneficial. My system still does this with (4) pumps all running at a lower speed on auto with PWM plugged in. Then if I crank them to 100%, I will see everything fall in temps. That's a nice kit you have assembled in the cart though!

There is not, but I cannot count the tubes of standard liquid metal I have used over the years. And it does not last long. Of course it will last some time, but it loses its cooling ability. And the first sign is loss in stability. It feels just like degradation.

No more stickers! Looks Much better. I don’t know why I have always left those on laptops before.

Anyone using Liquid Metal needs to try some of the Supercool Liquid Metal. It has changed my mindset completely. The stuff just doesn’t degrade like other Liquid Metal’s do. It doesn’t perform quite as good as Conductonaut Extreme, but longevity is the best I have ever seen with Liquid Metal. And I will easily take the +2c worse temps for better longevity. This is one of the main reasons I have not hard lined my 5090. Radiator Fan speed really doesn’t matter if your delta sucks. And so far I have held 8c@400 watts and 12c@600 watts. This is +565@935mv the fans are all turning 1300rpm which results in a 38c GPU temps, with 30c water. It has already been 3 months since I applied the Liquid Metal. I have re-pasted Liquid Metal so many times, and degraded Liquid Metal so many times. This stuff is really a miracle TIM! I also re-pasted my Acer Predator 18” 4090 laptop with it too. Excellent LM. It’s like the mix is different on this LM, and drying out or any reaction from gallium and air is slowed or doesn’t happen at all. I’ll be curious to see what 6 months looks like. But typically for me at 3 months mark any other Liquid Metal would already be degraded and a loss in temps or instability is present at the previous overclocks.

The new Threadripper CPU’s are so awesome, been doing some reading on those lately. They have improved IPC so much so, that I do not think it’d be even worth picking up a prior gen Threadripper 7960/7970/7980. This is how the new chips stack up in Cinebench. TR 9960X CB R23: 59,000 stock TR 9970X CB R23: 77,000 stock TR 9980X CB R23: 113,000 stock (People with custom loops are overclocking 9980X 64/128 chips to 5.5Ghz on all cores which is just pure insane to imagine how crazy that is and how over the top beastly) Apparently the 9970X is the sweet spot. Now here’s where it gets interesting. These chips can run fast DDR5. People were already pushing DDR5 6200-7000 with the older 7960x/7970x/7980x. The new Threadripper 9000’s run DDR5 6400 natively and apparently the IMC is worlds better. And they can easily handle DDR5 7200 right out of the box. Tuning will probably net you closer DDR5 8000 or more. What a shame DDR5 prices have gone hay wire. Anyways, AMD Threadripper is sick.

I know man a 2TB iPhone is pretty wild. People do not believe this, but Verizon had a promotion and the 2TB model was $599.99 over 3yr period. 🤯 Anyways, I don’t think I’m gonna change my rig yet. I play 4K, so I’m always GPU bottlenecked anyways. But I’m gonna be watching the upcoming hardware. The 9950XD2, and 290K, and hopefully Intels new LGA1900 platform? I’m content for now at least.