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Man, I’m shocked on 5090 power…. I popped in the 5080 Astral to check things on the 9950X3D2 and grab some rendering video of it, since it’s being sold. Playing Crimson desert 4K leverages the 5090 to a new level completely… CRIMSON DESERT 4K, Cinematic graphics, DLSS Quality, Ray Reconstruction ON. RTX 5080 Astral fully MAX stable OC: 83-84 fps W/ 2X Frame Gen. RTX 5090 Astral fully MAX stable OC: 80-81 fps W/ 0X Frame Gen. (Frame Gen is off) 💀💀💀 PS: GPU Tweak III has a cool GPU hour counter that I actually use. Probably the coolest thing in the app.

Getting 1,000+ FPS is something I have never experienced before. Below is Ark Ascended doing just that on all low settings and 1080P. 6000c26 with 65k tREFI, all tuned to the max with 2167fclk. My son took a picture of me with my phone while I was in the bios breaking things (So posting it here! lol. 😂 )

Well I’m only running DDR5 6000c26 daily, so I don’t have to push high VDD’s like that. But yeah 7600c38 32k trefi needed like 1.700v when I was messing with it yesterday. 1.650 doesn’t work. This gave me the feeling that IMC is weak.

Seeing how well ram tuning posting and stability responds to adding memory voltage, I am definitely pointing to a weak IMC. It’s like 6000c26 boots fine with auto 11K tREFI with 1.435v VDD. EASY EASY. 32K tREFI? It won’t attempt to post, adding 32k tREFI puts a much heavier load on IMC, but adding voltage to VDD. Quick and easy bump up to 1.450v VDD gets it done! 65k tREFI fully tuned timings? Similar situation. I need 1.480v VDD. Probably can get away with 1.460vdd. But it’s all too familiar! And it put me right back in the seat of tuning on Intel with DDR5. Weak IMC’s loves high or too much VDD/ VDDQ. And that’s my system to a T lol. 😂 @Mr. Fox I’m going to swap it out for another. I’d like 2,200FCLK AS WELL. I’ll see how the next one runs. It’s a BEAST in games doing one thing at a time producing a high FPS though. That’s its main benefit. It’s not as fast as my Xeon doing brute work handling multiple things at a time. Like leaving a game minimized and doing other things simultaneously etc. it’s just not as fluid as my 28/56 Xeon 3175x is. That could be partly due to lower bandwidth, maybe higher latency, or merely due to being two CCD’s? Either way. Gaming performance is great! And that’s what I wanted to see.

I think my 9950X3D2 has a weak IMC. Different bios doesn’t help. Max 1:2 speed I can boot is DDR5 7600. Either weak IMC, or my 6000c30 A-die kit is just at the limits? I’ve tried like 1.5v VDDIO LOL 😂 1.300v VSOC UP to 1.650v VDD/VDDQ. Nothing helps. 7600 max, and that’s hit or miss, 7400 posting works every time. I tried to use some preset timings. And that did not help either. Is it possible to have a crazy weak IMC on my 9950X3D2?

Yeah this thing is funny, it likes those higher 1:1 speeds better than higher 1:2 speeds. Based on what I am reading, I am seeing that some of these IMC’s may like faster 1:1 speeds, while simultaneously NOT liking faster 1:2 speeds. 6600@1:1 is not actually stable. But I can try and see if I can get it stable, probably can’t. But maybe with voltage tuning, tuning timings etc. I was really pushing the FCLK, and I hear that also impacts your 1:1 max edge speeds stability as well. But I have been just gaming with running regular speeds. As far as easy stability goes like set and forget. 2167 fclk and 6000c26 @1.450v VDD, or 1.400 VDD with 32k tREFI works, with a 65,535 tREFI. This setup runs very easy without tuning voltages or anything. I may swap the CPU for another. But being honest. I don’t mind too much. I’m pretty much okay with how it performs even stock. If I return anything, I may try a 270K Plus as well! 😄

I almost bought that Vcolor kit! I thought it was suspiciously priced low. I suppose that’s why? Because it’s dual rank 16gigs? Have not tried the bios yet. But, I will soon. Being lazy. I am testing a 6600c28 though!

What about the faster 1:1 speeds? Im testing 6600c28 right now. How would those compare VS. like DDR5 8000+ in 1:2 speeds?

So I’m pushing 1:1 speeds to check IMC limit and fabric limits. I can run 2,167 fclk which seems to work well, and DDR5 6600c32 1:1. Right now I’m trying to dial down to C26 or maybe c28. The lil ram fan helps too lol!

Looks like fun to me! I almost went with one of these. Multithreaded performance is really good on these.

I’m shocked they started doing dual rank 16GB DDR5 sticks lol. That’s so cheap of them! Lol. 😂 So these sticks should be good for 8000 at least is what I was thinking, I’m going to try a different bios. If that does not help me, then I may exchange the motherboard and CPU at the same time, the 9950X3D2 has pretty high SP’s on both CCD’s. Whatever I get after that, I’m just going to roll with it. 😎

These are single rank sticks. I specifically bought these because they were Hynix A die 5.43.01. Hopefully they are alright OC wise.

Okay, I’m going to try that bios! And @electrosoft I may try another 9950X3D2. If I’m feeling up to it. Memory tuning is very fun. But I learned that it does not help much in real world gaming performance, I suppose IPC is the real king for high fps and pushing fast GPU’s. My Xeon w3175x is a memory performing beast. When I would run only 6x16GB (96GB total) I can do 1T stable, and this does like 172GB bandwidth and 45ns-46ns latency. And it just cannot hold up to anything modern with the words X3D even with a single stick of DDR5 4800 lol. It’s a powerful rig, and still did well in many titles especially those more uncommon “Well Optimized titles”. 😂😂😂 These X3D chips are ridiculous in gaming. I did not realize how many CPU limited games I do play. Almost everything is CPU limited with a 5090 Astral, even with 4K. Rust, Oblivion, Ark, blasting some crazy frame rates with 9950X3D2. @Mr. Fox Are you thinking my Dark Hero should also run 8000c34 just like your Apex can?

Okay! I will try that. Let me check the memory as well.

I don’t think 2200fclk works. But I haven’t tried really messing with it much either. I do see 2,167 fclk works at least. I feel like I really suck at messing with this thing lol. I saw DDR5 7600c34 posted up and works. But couldn’t get anymore. Need to loosen timing or add more VDD/VDDQ.

I cannot get any Gear 2 memory speeds beyond 6000 to run at all, just fails to post. What am I doing wrong? I have set these settings: Asynchronous mode fclk 2000 DDR5 6200/6400/6600/6800/7200/8000 etc. (I tried all these speeds slowly working down) bclk 1: 100.00Mhz bclk 2: Auto uclk Div1 mode=MEMCLK/2 loosest timings imaginable. I cannot get a post. CPU SOC Voltage: 1.200-1.260v tried these ranges. CPU VDDIO/IMC voltage 1.300-1.400v tried these ranges. @Mr. Fox EDIT: I got it!!! I just posted DDR5 7,000. Will slowly work up with some loose timings, then try to tighten. 2nd EDIT: I am having a hard time posting past 7,000 3rd EDIT: I GOT 7400c34 To post and train. 4th EDIT: I got 7600 posted. Still slowly working up in frequency.

I’ll mess with it some more. When I enabled high priority it does hit 46K at least. Not sure if that helps, as I’m just using a stock retail Win11 OS. Anyways, I’m messing with ram tuning right now. I just let the chip run stock for the most part trying to memorize and learn AMD things. Good news is my ram booted right up at 6000 CL26-36-36-36-96@1.435V. My motherboard seems to be responding a little bit better as time has gone on. It might be okay after all. I see training and posting with high tREFI is much easier with more VDD/VDDQ voltage. So, like 6000c30 with 65K tREFI won’t post with 1.400v VDD/VDDQ. But it will post with 1.435v VDD/VDDQ. I know how DDR5 was with Intel, and it was heavily dependent on your IMC quality. Like one CPU may do 6000c30@1.35v and another CPU wants 6000c30@1.400v. That’s what I learned with Intel anyways, the CPU IMC quality determines how much voltage your DDR5 rams would need. This made it incredibly difficult to bin ram sticks in my opinion. Because an amazing IMC would make average DDR5 look like super sticks or something.

Yes, I am using PBO. It does clock down in R23 to around 5.4Ghz on 1 CCD, and 5.3Ghz on the other CCD. When I was referring to these running hot, I remember many people reporting these Ryzen chips just run like 95C or something lol. Or I remember reading something about they intentionally run and target warm temps like that? I want to go tinkering in this bios. But this motherboard is a PAIN. I may wait until I get this swapped out first. But yeah, the platform is excellent. Several games that I play have never ran well on anything. Ark Ascended, or Oblivion Remastered. And these games are constantly skipping and dropping GPU usage. And seeing this 9950X3D2 run those smoothly at crazy high frame rates is shocking to me.

Mine is SP118. I’m not really sure if it’s good or not good. That’s about 30c idle in bios. I have it running R23 doing 44.2K at only 225 watts. And 67c max. I thought these bad boys were supposed to run hot or something. 😎 I’m liking this AMD platform though. Quirks aside. It’s obliterating FAST. Being honest about it, I wasn’t really all that excited immediately after buying the 9950X3D2+Dark Hero and I had the boxes sitting under my couch in my office. But dang! After running the system, I am over joyed by this system.

This AMD 9950X3D2 is madness! Excellent platform. I’m having some board troubles with this open box Dark hero, but I’m happy with the platform overall.

9950X3D2 is insanely fast! Multithreaded is more or less the same as my w3175x probably a little bit faster. But, I play a few games that are not the most optimized like: Oblivion remastered, Ark Ascended, just to name a few.. And what a difference there is! It really has perked things up. I’m seeing double on my 1% lows in these CPU limited titles. Unfortunately I’m having another issue... I cannot get EXPO to boot at all. It worked one time on the very first boot. And do not know what happen. 😭 I cleared the bios after fiddling around with things. And now EXPO fails to post. None of the EXPO’s will work. Tried Expo I, II, Tweaked, etc. I have to run DDR5 4800 to get the system to load windows or work at all.. I have cleared the bios, unplugged everything. EXPO just refuses work. For now DDR5 4800 is working, so I’m running that. I’ll try to update the bios and see if that helps. EDIT: Found the issue. CPU mounting pressure. My waterblock nuts were popping off the threads under tension. I’m going to have to address this block mounting. For now it’s working though. This is a picture of the system. It has a big thick chubba HWlab GTR 480mm cooling the CPU and single D5. 😀 The CPU is really beyond fast in gaming. Words cannot really describe how fast it is lol 😂 I could notice it in Oblivion without a frame counter. 1% lows in Oblivion have doubled. I wasn’t expecting that. AVG fps is about +40% higher in CPU limited games. It is seriously an outstanding gaming CPU. 💀

That doesn’t even make sense! The price is crazy!

Guys! This deal is insane! It really makes it hard to cope with a $899.99 9950X3D2 right now. 🤨 The 270K Plus is $264.99 on Amazon. That is an insane value. This price for essentially a mix of 14900KS gaming performance and 285K multithreaded performance is unheard of.

Coming together. Trying to swap over nothing at all from my main build except for the 5090. In case I don’t really care for the platform. Im hoping it exceeds my expectations though, and if it does it’ll be going in to the big case .

I’m putting it together on the test bench with a 480 and a single D5. My cat thinks so many dimm slots are only good for standing on easier. Also, don’t mind my ghetto waterblock mounting. It works!