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I would like to report the successful installation of  FHD panel N156HCG-GT1 in my m4800 - good contrast and the lowest power consumption ever

5 hours ago, ssj92 said:

I am talking to them now, maybe I will buy one for testing and post results. 

then I'll wait for your results and save up my money😅

6 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Tempting...I messaged them LOL

I've been wanting one too, but tdp is stopping me for now)

x-vsion has the 4080/4090 options up on their website - only $680/910.
Those who want to take a chance can try
https://www.x-vsion.com/product/x-vsion-mxm-embedded-module-rtx-4080m/

11 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Yes but atleast we'll have full 8 PCIE on slave. It's a MXM A card with no offsets at all. You just need to trim the right part if needed. The 4070 8GB MXM costs 490-500USD with shipping.

I know about its characteristics. but in my mind for 500$ it's not worth it for systems with mxm b.
except for 7510-7520 upgrade and that if you find a video bios with lower tdp.

2 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Laptop has a workstation grade chipset so yeah. The seller sent me a GPU-z screenshot and he did get it to work on NON 4G DECODE bios.

Even if the slot on the laptop works in x16 mode the 4050-4070 graphics card itself is limited to 8 pcie lines

15 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

X-Vsion told me 40 series VBIOS aren't compatible with Alienware lol. They still don't answer to me if the 4070 VBIOS used 4G/Rebar or not...

They don't know if it's compatible or not, because they can't test it personally - they don't have such old hardware without 4g support. so they can only base it on feedback from those who bought it and tried it themselves.

15 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

The laptop does dual x16 speed.

Usually if a laptop uses 2 video cards in sli, bus is divided into x8 + x8 for each card actually as in m18x. to have 16 lines for each slot I have not seen.

10 hours ago, gluon said:

If you start testing, you'd like to have the 17" model. They're otherwise nearly identical, but the 17 G2 gives the MXM-lane ~115W. That matches the TPD of the 4060M.

thanks for the information.
interest is just in the 15 inch model and I plan to flash 4060 in 50-60 watt mode, but all video bios with this limitation require just 4g support. when I buy this laptop I will let you know).

18 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Hello, but I'll test the 4070 on a X79 based laptop with UEFI in the slave slot.

Well in your case 8 pci-e lines is justified, but the speed of the bus will be very small, especially since there will be data transfer from the processor to one GPU for processing and to another for displaying

10 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

X-Vsion sells a RTX 4070 MXM 3.0a GPU. Same PCB as the 4060. But the seller told me the card won't work on Alienware... Before they told me the 4060 won't work too... Then how did you get yours to work? Did you try any powerful 4070, 4080 cards on your Alienware?

no magic - bios with support for working without 4g decoding.
but 110 watts is too much for a card like mxm-a, so I tried to find something closer to 50-60 watts using the techpowerup bios database, but none of those video bios files (from laptops I guess) m17x r4 didn't want to start (apparently they require the 4g function in the system bios. The 4070 may well not have the original working video bios and you're just left with that card.
Plus, it has high elements on the right side of the chip, which prevents normal cooling pressure. and 8 pcie lines are not very encouraging either.

I don't really see the point in newer cards because there is a guaranteed problem with the bios and also with the quality of chinese boards, so for alienware I will probably limit myself to adlink's rtx5000 - a reasonable maximum for the processor.

17 hours ago, gluon said:

Out of the two, Above 4G seems crucial for Ampere support. This is because the card will always need proper MMIO. ReBar is a secondary function, which adds performance instead of compatibility.

I am very interested in your claim that the g2 has support for 4g decoding. if possible, I would like to see a screenshot from gpu-z with this feature active. if everything checks out, I will buy a used g2 to test chinese 4060m on it.

1 hour ago, loopster said:

The T2000 you linked is not an MXM card. I'd be quite amazed if he got that one running 🙂

8 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

For proof, it says on their Alibaba page that they have more than 20 years of experience and all of their MXM cards are out of stock uh

it's just cheap marketing

9 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

I think I need an Eurocom BIOS to get the module recognised. On eBay I bought that Crucial DDR3L 1600MHz 2Rx8 module for 25€. Originally, they cost between 50-80€...

You can try, but 1x16gb modules will not work on normal 3-4 generation intel laptops due to hardware limitations of the platform.

10 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Peladn is here since 20 years ago too

Any proof? Plus, they don't have the mhm modules on their official website.

9 hours ago, nforce4max said:

Someone here got 16gb modules working on an M6800

can I get a link to confirm that the m6800 was able to boot with this memory?

8 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

I got one on hand. It's detected on HWINFO but the bios won't take it.

I think there is a difference here plus do not forget that clevo x7200 is built on a desktop chipset, which is not typical for ordinary laptops including m4800|m6800.

1 hour ago, SuperMG3 said:

Isn't ZRT also a noname

No they are older than the other two companies and comparing the 4060 design of zrt it is in my opinion much better.

37 minutes ago, SuperMG3 said:

It's on Alibaba actually. They sell RTX 4060, 4070 all 60W 

This is a lottery game with the Chinese. if you are ready to lose the price of the card you can try, but no one will give you any guarantees even ghostly as in the case of x-vsion or zrt.

32 minutes ago, SuperMG3 said:

Hello okay. Do you have any experiences on PELADN MXM GPUs? They also sell RTX Ampere for a cheaper price.

No, I didn't see any mxm modules on their website.

2 hours ago, SuperMG3 said:

Hello. Did you manage to get your RTX 4060 MXM to work on your Dell Precision M4800 and on your M17X R4?

on m17x r4 4060m works well, on m4800 I didn't even try because the consumption of more than 100w is obviously too much for the latter. I tried all video bios with reduced tdp for 4060, but apparently they need 4g decoding which is not available on these laptops. maybe on 7520 the card would work like that.

8 hours ago, Reciever said:

Even then I believe those were only for desktops no? 

16 gigabyte ddr3 modules? no they are available for laptops, but the only problem is that 3rd and 4th generation intel does not want to work with them. amd processors of the same time can easily understand them.

53 minutes ago, Neoa_56 said:

If it only supports 2 channels, I'll just buy 2 16gb modules

and it will not work, because ddr3 modules for 16gb do not work on the 4th generation intel. you need at least broadwell and that depends on the implementation of the bios of a particular laptop.
so count on 16 gigabytes maximum in case of 4890hq

3 hours ago, Neoa_56 said:

Why did you need to remove 2 sticks of ram ? I'm also looking to put either a 4980hq or a 4940mx in my m4800

needed to remove 2 memory modules because 4980hq does not work with more than 2 memory modules due to the design of the adapter (there are rumors that someone saw that there are exceptions, but I have not seen any real evidence)
about 4940 I do not know - I personally enough 4910 - they have no differences except for slightly higher frequencies.

If we are talking about 4980hq from aliexpress you should be prepared that it is a lottery. I personally received one non-working, one partially working with one memory channel.

I would not consider alienware laptops on the haswell platform (ranger & viking) because there are possible power limitations of video cards.
so I would choose between m18x r2 (better possible CPU cooling, possible nvme in the second mxm slot, but 8 pcie lines for video card) and m17x r4 (slightly worse CPU cooling, but slightly more compact and mxm slot for 16 pcie lines).

10 hours ago, Yarema said:

i found you 160W RTX 3080TI

I think 160 watts is too much

2 hours ago, Anton_lvanov said:

May not work,because the M4700 only supports LVDS screens

through optimus should work