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It might be related to having a LVDS display port versus eDP port. I think the GTX 1070 only works with eDP displays.

It should work. I have a P4200 in my P177SMA.

Well, I added a TPM chip to my P177SM motherboard... so it should work.

I can't entirely agree that GPUs need more and more power with each generation. The high-end models sure do, but if you stick to a particular thermal envelope, you can use the same standard across multiple generations. The limitation will be that if you bought a GTX 1070 at 100W, then for the next generation, you can only upgrade to, say, an RTX 3060 because that one is now 100W. I use an ancient P177SM-A with standard MXM cards. I have upgraded this laptop to a P4200 Max-Q that works around 85W. I can further upgrade to an RTX 4000 Max-Q, which also comes in MXM format and is 85W: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-rtx-4000-max-q.c3427

There are a couple of things to consider regarding the high cost: 1. You need to get a new CPU. Used ones may not work as they don't survive very well the desoldering process. This, in turn, limits the number of CPUs available for purchase. On the other hand, it also limits the demand as not many people will go through the upgrade process. 2. The high upgrade cost is mostly due to the labour of getting it done. The labour cost is the same regardless of the CPU, so it might make sense if you upgrade from an i5 to an i9. The guys at the repair shop checked the laptop schematics beforehand. They told me about experiences like your situation, where even though the socket is compatible, the laptop might now accept the upgrade. Apparently the BIOS must also white list the CPU model on particular laptops.

Just wanted to share with you guys that I have managed to succesfully upgrade a soldered laptop. It's a second hand HP Elite X2 G4, with still 3 months of warranty left. I got with a i7 - 8565U and upgraded it to a i7 - 8665U. The costs in itself doesn't make much sense, but I was curious if it was possible. I specifically wanted something cheap which I didn't mind much if it broke. The costs: - brand new CPU from China - about 210 USD including shipping and VAT (150 without shipping and VAT) - CPU socket mask - about 4 USD including shipping and VAT - expert repair shop fee for doing the job + 3 months warranty on their work - 190 USD including VAT Total cost: 404 USD Not sure what to do with the old CPU that I was left with. I felt I needed to share this with you, since I know most of you are here are fond of socketed CPUs. But it seems there is a path to upgrade even for soldered CPUs.

You can probably find the replacement motherboard on Aliexpress. 2 years ago I managed to find one for an P177SM-A . I strongly recommend you get the official tehnician manual of the laptop, check the code of the part number you need, and search it up on the internet. I am fairly certain you will find a replacement unit. I have a Clevo M570TU bought in 2009 which still works. I had to replace the GPU twice though.

I think compatibility is FCC related. All devices that are delivered with 3/4/5 G capabilities need to go through the FCC's approval in the combination of WWAN card + device. For this reason, most laptops that come preinstalled with WWAN cards have a white list in the BIOS that only allows them to use a few, specific WWAN cards, the ones that were approved by the FCC in combination with that laptop model. Now, as far as I know, Clevo has no white list for its WWAN cards, so in theory any WWAN card should work just fine. Also, they never sold the P650HS with a WWAN card in the US, so they never had to go through the FCC for 4/5G approval and thus also need not implement a white list system for the WWAN cards. My guess is that would should be able to put any WWAN card inside that laptop.

DONE! The listing should be fine now.

Ok, will do, thanks.

Do my 3dmark tests count? https://www.3dmark.com/spy/26922397 https://www.3dmark.com/tsst/2656582 If not, I will upload a photo later today.

Sold the card to @Csupati via eBay. Price: 300 euro Condition: Like new Warranty: 30 days Reason for sale: Upgraded to P4200 Payment: PayPal Item location: Bucharest Romania Shipping: FREE International shipping: FREE Handling time: 3-7 days Feedback: had some nice feedback on NBR, https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/notebro Specification: Nvidia Quadro P3200 6GB DDR5 MXM 3.0 Type B for Clevo MSI - N18E-Q1-KC-A1 Max-Q Proof of ownership: Time Stamped pictures I bought this MXM card from someone in Greece but it didn't work due to not having a vBIOS chip. After a bit of research, I found the vBIOS chip and vBIOS file that is compatible with this card. Unfortunetly, it took some time to find a laptop repair shop which could solder and flash the vBIOS chip. In the mean time I bought another MXM card. The vBIOS used is Dell 86.04.8A.00.65 To install drivers, use NV-clean install. You can find it on Techpowerup website. The card is now working flawlessly: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/26922397 https://www.3dmark.com/tsst/2656582 Here are the full specs of the vide card: Name: Nvidia Quadro P3200 Launch date: 2018-02-21 Chipset: GP104 Litography: 16 nm Base clock speed: 1328 Mhz Memory speed: 7012 Mhz Chipset structure: 1792:112:64 Pixel rate: 98.8 GPixel/s Texture Rate: 172.8 GTexel/s Memory size: 6144 MB Memory bandwidth: 168 GB/s Memory type: GDDR5 Memory bus: 192 bit FP32 performance: 5.530 TFLOPS DirectX version: 12.1 OpenGLversion: 4.6 CUDA version: 6.1 TDP: 75 W

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Keep me in the loop with this. 🙂 My last upgrade to P4200 worked nicely in my aging P177SM. I suspect any semi-standard MXM card will work in my system.