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hmmm interesting, will have to look into these 🙂 yeah Roman gave up on providing any kind of W/mK data for his cooling products, i.e. pastes, liquid metal, thermal pads, etc. since these are so highly variable and dependent on testing setup. thx bud, appreciate the screenshots 🙂 yeah just seeing how super tight the SP ratings are between CPUs but at the same time u seeing such big differences in overclocking ability just goes to show that the conclusions are not that significant at the end of the day. greetz from italy to everyone btw, enjoying a vacay with my two ladies 🙂

function over form my friend, function over form 😛

LOL i had no idea, now i feel like a moron 😄 thanks for the tip! ill try it next time in BIOS 🙂

be sure to post ur VF curves, as well (9950X and X3D). lets get some comparisons going here to put some proper context to the curves 🙂

and THAT, my friend, is the crux of the hardware enthusiast reality 😄 haha nice that reminds me of the high tech toilets i saw in japan 😄 7950X = lemme see if i can find an old bios screenshot / post about this First 9950X3D = SP 120 Second 9950X3D = SP 120 (120.44 across all cores), V/F curve below. in general, both the IMC and CCDs seem to be stronger on this one vs. the first. unfortunately, i dont have any screens of the VF curves for the first 9950X3D or the 7950X. sorry about the awkwardly slanted screenshot, this is due to my curved monitor 😄 plus had to stitch together two pics cuz the low Bios res doesnt allow all 16 cores to be shown at the same time.

daaaaaamn, bro Fox will be basically moving into the new MC as a permanent resident 😄

ah yes please, id like to have one of those 😄 RTX 5090 with higher vRAM by Nvidia themselves...it better be a 5090 Ti or Titan Blackwell! btw guys, cmon now, we dont really need to be defending 8GB cards in 2025....dont come up with artificial use cases here, just vote with ur wallet and let them die out already.

i can see that 5090 budget burning a hole in your wallet hahaha i for one am done with hardware purchases for the time being, back to tuning the installed hardware (finish RAM and havent even started with the CPU yet!) and also more gaming! just finished Deliver Us Mars and also discovered a third installment is already in the making (Deliver Us Home). Now I am starting with Doom Eternal + Ancient Gods, first time ive tried it. Lets see how it compares to Doom 3 and Doom 2016 🙂

ooooh joining the X3D club? nice, looking forward to your findings vs. the regular 9950X.

thats really impressive for that pricing! no way i could compete with those speeds / timings tho lol. i for one am just happy i finally got 8000 stable. i finished tuning the primary timings: 8000-40-47-49-76 is the best i can get in my D2D OC stability tests. secondary and tertiary timings to follow, ofc but that will take a while 😛 still, nothing to sneer at, considering 8000CL40 is the same latency ratio as my previous 7600CLC38 or the universally recommended 6000CL30, but at much higher overall bandwidth. curious to see where my results will land once ive gotten all the timings dialed in.

welp this was a nothing burger 😄 turns out, once u insert TWO sticks instead of one the rules change completely. the 1.30V kit that was previously stable at 8000 is still king. while testing the two best 1.35V sticks i couldnt actually get them stable at 8000 with the same settings 😄 sooo anyways, RAM binning done, will keep the 1.30V kit and see which speed will give me the best bandwidth / latency performance 🙂 thatll take another while.... RAM OC rabbit hole is real 😄

haha i get it though, bro @tps3443 is just happy with his purchase and is screaming it out into the forum void 😄 sooo ive gone through all 8 new sticks individually with loose timings and maxxed out voltages, and here are the results: 5 sticks max out at DDR5-8500 and error out instantly at DDR5-8600 2 sticks max out at DDR5-8500 and error out about a third of the way through the stress test at DDR5-8600 1 stick maxes out at DDR5-8600 and errors out instantly at DDR5-8700 now doing the same settings with the kit that was stable at 8000, but testing the sticks individually. they do seem do be significantly weaker, at least the first one cant do 8500 stable, currently testing 8400. ill be testing the sticks that can work their way through completely or for a good chunk at 8600 and do all permutations of two sticks with more stringent settings. in the end im hoping ill be able to achieve 8200 with respectable timings, that would be grand 🙂

w00t w00t! we got separation! 🙂 Stick No. 5 of kit 3 is stable at DDR5-8600 😄 Fun fact: this is one of the open box items, thus significantly cheaper than the new kits 😛 now off to 8700...

currently on the third stick, so far theyre all maxing out at 8500. seems like these kits are more narrowly binned than the others. curious to see how they perform in pairs, maybe then ill have more of a spread. id definitely welcome it, since ill need to decide which ones to return 😄 nice! looks like ill be holding off on upgrading my lady's machine until Bartlett Lake shows what it can do 🙂 also hoping for additional fixes to stave off silicon degradation. when it comes to my lady, stability is everything! us hardware nerds can live with a bit of instability when it means MOAR POWAH 😛

i guess it all comes down to optimization by the mobo manufacturer. in my case i havent had any luck with EXPO kits, but XMP kits work quite nicely. AHA! "finally" errored out at 8600 😄 now for a full 8500 stress test to dial this stick in and then off to the others. should go more quicklly now that i have a rough idea of where to start testing.