jaybee83

unfortunately i cant use native cables, still rocking 2x8pin on the PSU side 😄 but this sounds like a nifty lil feature!

nope havent tested those yet. ive actually just reseated the cable i was using before (Seasonic) and the current imbalance is gone, crazy how that works. i got 3 our of the 5 ordered backup cables on hand, 2 still on the way. 3 of them Seasonic, 2 from Asus.

thats how i roll 😄 nah man, 100% hands off. WVPII totally provides peace of mind, let it run in the background and do its thing until an alarm gets triggered 🙂

ok so i figured since im having so much fun with RE Requiem and it draws an insane amount of wattage ill test my current GPU cable connection thoroughly and provide you the summary for comparison / reference sake. so total of 5 gaming sessions recorded with HWInfo64, threw out all data points below 95% gpu core load and anything below 600W for both total gpu power, as well as 12VHPWR only. that left me with approx. 7.5h of data with a monitoring frequency of 1s (27,215 data points total). the game was maxed out with RT and PT at 4K, no FG and DLSS set to Quality. as mentioned before im rocking the matrix vbios as a daily driver with a 24/7 stable OC of 34Gbps vRAM and +130 on the core, that gives me gaming clocks in the range of approx. 3060 Mhz +/- 30. ambient temps are currently quite high, were talking about 27-28C in my little "dad corner" 😄 gpu core is in the range of 68-73C under load, vRAM hotspot a tad higher at 70-76C and GPU hotspot approx. 85C on avg. with short spikes up to 93-94C (top 10% are in the range of 88-90C). FPS avg 102.9 1%% low 72.4 0.1% low 67.8 Total GPU Power avg 703W 10% high 761W 1% high 775W MAX 799W 12VHPWR Power avg 688W 10% high 744W 1% high 753W MAX 758W (interesting to see that as 12VHPWR wattage approaches the vbios limit at 800W, the gap to the total gpu power widens, thus the PCIe slot starts to draw more and more power, on avg. only 15W but the max spike is at 41W). Max Delta Current across 6 pins avg 1.06 A 10% high 1.99 A 1 % high 2.57 A MAX 3.3 A (stock setting for alarm in WVPII software is 4A) Max Delta Current across 6 pins (%) avg +11% 10% high +22% 1% high +29% MAX +35% (stock setting for alarm in WVPII software is +40%) this is how it should be, with even the absolute max individual data points still below the alarm threshold (which only comes into play if you get repeated, sequential limit breaches in a row, so a single data point spike aint enough to trigger it). this will provide a nice baseline once this cable inevitably gives out on me an ill need to test a fresh install / cable to compare 😄

so guys, seems like HWInfo is already on it with Blackwell hotspot readouts:

absolutely, planning to keep all 5 replacement cables for now. i managed to correct the current imbalance by reseating the original cable i had been using since the 4090. now the current is super even and good timing too! just finished playing black myth wukong and started with resident evil requiem: that game uses the full 800W envelope, absolutely insane! first time ive seen a game push the 5090 that high, also for temps: while im usually around low to mid 60 on avg temp, im now reaching high 60s to low 70s 😅 i think its time to have a look at the hotspot temps via the mods u linked above... yeah really a shame about the match vs. england, was the first world cup match i actually watched this time around 😄 youd think with all that new fancy tech, sensors inside the ball, VAR, etc. the game would be and feel more fair but somehow the opposite is true... 6C in mid july?! wth...i remember my time in trondheim in summer, me fully covered like an inuit while the natives were jumping around half naked at like 12C 😂

agreed just dont want one of the usual suspects to win AGAIN! argentina, spain, france, gtfo 😋 england, norway, switzerland, go right ahead!

btw wanted to leave this for bro @Papusan, RO NORGE! lets go, show them english whos boss! wouldnt mind to have a viking world champion 😁

yep i got three bottom 140mm fans blowing directly into the GPU fans, that in turn push the air up to the top of the case before its pushed out via the push/pull on the radiator. got another 140mm fan on top of the gpu backplate cooling RAM and SSDs directly, but also provides airflow to the WVPII / gpu connector in front of the fan. for context, gpu temps are in the low to mid 60s with the matrix vbios and max stable OC applied, with the temp sensor in the WVPII never having breached 60C. im more in the mid 50s with the inbuilt WVPII fan barely spinning at like 20%. im suspecting it has something to do with uneven cable pin seating, since im getting fluctuating results based on installs. just now i switched back to the original cable that i used for my 4090 previously (since the backup seems to be even worse) and currently running BMW as a stress test in the background: whaddayaknow, the six pins show super even current load again. while i switched out the cables i also reseated the WVPII and now used two different 8 pin sockets on the PSU. ill hold on to the 5 additional cables i ordered, can never have enough of these crappy cables it seems... ill let it run for a while now and analyse the results via HWInfo64. will report back. compared to smoking the 5090 which currently goes for like 4-4.5k € new i dont mind spending 110 bucks total on 5 cables to have in reserve LOL

your guess is as good as any. whatever the case may be, environmental conditions inside "normal" values shouldnt have such an immense impact. i mean, its not like were in the tropics / desert / arctic circle here...

nope thats with the matrix 800W vbios, although in BMW the wattage barely breaks 600W, maybe goes to max. 620-630 at most. seen much higher wattages in other titles or benchmarks. duuude im SO happy i got the WVPII, bringing those "invisible" failure points to my attention! edit: aight, ordered 5 different cables from 3 different sources, lets get our cable binning ON! lulz at least im glad to see that the variable really seems to be the cable and not the GPU, the WVPII or the PSU, that would suck even more. wish me luck guys!

welp FML, the WVP II alarms have returned while playing BMW, back with a vengeance! still current imbalance issues. so i swapped out the cable i had been using on my 4090 before and now on the 5090, installed the WVPII and the backup cable anew, and guess what?! THE BACKUP CABLE IS EVEN WORSE! installed it twice and pushed in so hard i thought id break through the case back panel lol. so now the plan is to go all out and order like 5 cables and bin them.....this connector is SO trash, unbelieveable. but yeah, the WVPII has already paid for itself! both cable connectors and gpu power socket are still in mint condition btw, so all is well. u guys got any recommendations other than seasonic stock cables and cablemod?

exactly what bro @electrosoft said, my LFIII Pro with Noctua IPPC3000 fans in push/pull is a beast but im already itching when im seeing these crazy Noctua AIO results 😄 definitely added to my wishlist for a potential future upgrade. for now, im happy with my setup and just glad to be gaming again after months and months of RAM and GPU tuning 😛 CPU is STILL stock aside from the RAM tweaks, couldnt be bothered to OC it yet 😄

well ill be damned, here i thought i had the only 5090 with max core 1.02V in existence LOL (actually 1,025V but whos counting....) good to see it was user fault and not something that went awry due to the board or connector design. lulz @samsung, bitching about "costly bonus war" when the employees only wanted their fair share of the insane amount of profits....how dare they! still chugging along nicely here with black myth wukong, got 27h into the game, lotsa fun 🙂 correction on my previous claim of getting 70+ FPS at native 4K: seems like the graphics settings sometimes dont stick, so need to reapply and restart the game. settled at 89% 4K res (BMW can actually finetune exact percentages for scaled resolutions, pretty nice), which gives me solid 60-70 FPS, everything else maxed. this is on the matrix vbios btw. havent encountered any more connector imbalance issues on the amperage front, all good for now *fingers crossed*

so, opened up my case last night and adjusted the cable connection for both the WVP II into the GPU, as well as the cable into the WVP II (a.k.a. rammed both inside like theres no tomorrow 😄) still saw some imbalance peaks but not enough anymore to trigger the alarm in Alan Wake 2. Started with Black Myth Wukong today, I must say I was surprised to be able and max everything out completely including max RT and DLSS DLAA, running smoothly in the range of 70-80 FPS, with short peaks & dips to 90 and 60 here and there. I guess thats what tuning, OC and a higher power budget gives you 😄 according to all the reviews ive seen they werent able to get more than like 40-50 FPS with everything maxed out, thus DLSS Quality was required, at the least. in any case, thus far i havent seen any imbalance spikes, although power spikes arent as pronounced here as with AW2 before, im almost always voltage limited, rather than power limited. in any case, its been fun thus far, looking forward to dive more into this game with tons of eye candy 🙂 PS: just to be on the safe side, ive got my three other GPU cables at the ready to check and see if any of them would fare better if those imbalance issues start returning....

yeah thats hat im afraid of, that its gonna hit me sooner or later, ugh.... aside from the segotep titanload cable that doesnt yet seem to be available anywhere, anyone got suggestions for high quality power cables, preferably with higher than standard amperage rating / AWG? open for suggestions 🙂 otherwise im just gonna stock up with several more seasonic cables and start "binning" them LOL

yeah naturally i also increased mine with the matrix vbios. as long as temps are in check overcurrent is not an issue, just the imbalance getting my attention.

Sooooo ive had the first incident detected by the WVP II (it already paid for itself just for that!), i was playing Alan Wake II at 4K maxed out with Pathtracing and DLSS Quality and getting a smooth 70-100fps on the matrix vbios. GPU wattage was usually in the range of 650+W, so nothing crazy. GPU temps were fine in the low to mid 60s, with vram hotspot in the low 70s, so far so good. but then the WVP II started beeping, pin current imbalance detected! some crazy values, lowest pin at like 5A with max. at 12-13A O.o alt-tabbed out of the game, checked monitoring data (had hwinfo running in the background), let everything cool off and tried again, got the alarm for a second time. then on the third try pin currents were even and stable again, super weird! cable connector was fine tempwise, saw a max of like mid 50s, nothing to worry about. plus ive got high airflow inside the case going over the gpu connector and the thermal putty applied on the connector pcb location for thermal conductance via the metal backplate. nothing was touched, altered, fidgeted with or changed in any way. rammed that cable into the gpu like theres no tomorrow to ensure full connection and then literally case closed 😋 my usual min-max current gap is in the range of 0,8-1,2A, with some rare instances going to 1,5-1,8 (were talking to like a second each). but never above 2A. and ive been playing and testing with alan wake 2 on the matrix vbios for hours and hours by now, never any issues. this is such an annoying connector! ugh now on the lookout for a potential cable replacement, might as well go with one of the higher rated ones, but definitely not the asus crap 🤣 doesnt make sense though, ive also checked my vdroop and its not even breaching 300mV, its like 220 or so (12.1V at idle to 11.9 under load approx.) from what ive seen on overclock.net thats pretty darn good (seasonic quality, after all). y'all gotten any alerts yet from your WVP Ii? please share!

welp the listed hardware specs for that tier are pretty old and weak, anyways....guessing they wanna make sure they can sell their game to as many hardware-starved kiddos as possible 😆 it was just a question of when not if they would be starting to use DLSS and framegen as crutches.... finally back to gaming here, finished high on life 1 + dlc yesterday, now playing through alan wake 2 DLCs 🙂 after that not sure yet, maybe black myth wukong or star trek voyager across the unknown?

was thinking the same thing 😄 sticking to my seasonic original cables, im at 1 amp max difference and in the low to mid 50s max. cable connector temp with the matrix vbios 🙂

awesome! ive been using process lasso thus far, will give this a whirl 🙂 holy crap, i didnt see that one coming!

welp that was a quickie, the lightning Z vbioses only let me run one of the three fans 😄 wont bother testing the XOC versions, so Matrix it is for D2D now 🙂

oh cmon, why even bother to attack our cozy little forum here....

Finished testing the Matrix 800W vBios yesterday, basically grabbed top spot in all included benches except for like 2 or so, very consistently beating the Gigachad vBios! All in all, Im currently looking at +71-72% above 4090 stock and roughly +16-17% above 5090 stock, not bad! Gotta love the upgradeability and tuning ability of desktop systems 😄 Now moving on to the Lightning vBios versions, not sure yet if ill also test the XOC versions from Asus and MSI... Monitoring and logging via the WVPII makes things way more relaxed tbh 😄 so far looking good, connector stays very cool, max ive seen thus far was like in the mid 50s, with the inbuilt fan barely starting to spin at that point. still have to do a deepdive on the data collected for the Matrix vBios, gonna do that for every vBios tested so I have a good overview of what kinda wattage my cooling could manage long term 🙂

congratz on the new phone, shes a beaut! 🙂 and lulz thats funny timing, i actually just switched the other way around and went back from custom to full stock 😄 just dont have the time to tinker with custom roms anymore... yeaaaaaaah.....nope