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1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Here you go. Nothing optimized, just running with other programs and things active during work. For some reason I could not get the upload to associate with my UL account. It appears to be associated with no one. I tried to upload it again and it got rejected as a duplicate.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/36499097/spy/54229331/spy/40812238#

 

Here's a quick tune on 7900 XTX / 5800X3D for reference. Daily driver, no pruning.

9 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1XZy7xt3LH/

 

https://imgur.com/a/jZYQXiC

Let me know if you end up splitting off that 3090Ti, might be interested in snapping it up.

Last high-end EVGA card, worth keeping in the "family" in my book.

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Just delete the post. From now on we should only post about benches and results in this thread. Not about coming hardware. Or other HW news for this hobby. That's fine for me.

Diverse threads grants more exposure for the forum, and allows for threads to retain their topics. Only posting them to 2-3 threads reduces visibility and muddies the waters for parent threads. 

You clearly put in a lot of effort in posting news, All that I ask is that you make the attempt to put it where it can go.

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

  

And, the good part is that you don''t even have to install LTSC/ioT Enterprise. (I hate how that sounds so stupid... LTSC was a more intelligent name, but we're talking about the Redmond Retards, so I digress.) Just convert to LTSC/ioT Enterprise with a PowerShell script and you're good to go. https://massgrave.dev/#Method_1_-_PowerShell

Awesome stuff,  brother. Is the 3D printing less expensive?  See below

It's everything relating to tech now, but GPUs are the worst example of it. I am about fed up now. Very seriously considering selling off the Z790 Apex build entirely, including the MO-RA radiator/pumps assembly, 5 gallon reservoir and water chiller. I know if I do it will be a massive loss. I can't ship all this stuff because it is all too huge and extremely heavy. Some will have to drive here and take it away. I spent all day yesterday getting my work PC ready to sell (the Edge build with the direct die EK AIO) and assembling my new "work PC" to replace it. I got a cheap B850 AORUS Elite and 9950X to go with the 9070 XT. I feel very fortunate to have purchased the GPU at the appropriate price and the mobo dirt cheap. More to follow once I get done and ready for work tomorrow. Still have to finish setting up the new work PC and clean up the mess before tomorrow.

 

I am also seriously considering putting the air coolers back on both 4090s and using a cheap AIO. If it doesn't cool well enough I will just run stock or at a lower overclock.

 

I cancelled the X870E Apex pre-order. I got to thinking about it and it's kind of pointless with a Ryzen CPU. Judging between the Gene and the cheap B850 AORUS Elite, there is really no difference to speak of because AMD has limited overclocking capacity either deliberately or the architecture itself is limited. Why pay $800 for an awesome board if the outcome is going to be the same as a POS motherboard?

I look at it this way, if the current stuff is boring then it gives you a chance to go back and experiment with the older stuff, maybe pick up a tip or trick here and there which might serve you well in future XOC experiments.

I have mostly been tied up with homelab related stuff but I still keep looking for stuff from 10-15 years ago to pick up. Hard to believe a 4870 x2 is around 200+ right now lol, but it ebbs and flows I suppose.

I might pick up a single 5870 just for some tri-fire. Common knowledge of the era is Crossfire will be stronger than a 5970, perhaps the arctic cooler can allow me to OC it to make it a better pair with an HD 5870 at least until I can source another Arctic Cooling heatsink for another 5970.

Welcome to the Forums! 

57 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Here you can see how important China/Asia region is for  big US tech companies. Their first press release/special event come here in China and not in the western continent with US or Europe. Increased tariffs imposed from US governments or not doensn't really matter. Because the consumers in the western regions will pay the price increase from the tariff war/trade barriers.

 

Intel lists Panther Lake listed as Q1 2026 launch, but early enablement will start this year

 

During a special event in China, Intel presented its latest Core Ultra products as well as the current roadmap. The company claims to be launching the Core Ultra series, codenamed “Panther Lake,” in Q1 2026.

 

 

Post it in the news section

A bit of a bummer of the current GPU market is that it has even inflated the prices of older GPU's as well. 

Every now and then I like to look around for random older GPU's that I missed out on when I was younger or cards I had back in the day. Couple of years ago I bought a GTX 295 for 25 USD, now they want around 100 USD, GTX 590 at best is the same price. Cant even see that many HD 6990's.

Settled for a Arctic Accelero Xtreme 5970 cooler for one of my 5970's for now. Was able to get a couple of arctic coolers for my GTX 690's a while back so I guess until GPU prices come down i'll revisit aftermarket coolers. 

13 hours ago, saturnotaku said:

Compal? That's a name I haven't read about in at least a dozen years. Had no idea they were still kicking around.

Same here, blast from the past

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

7900xtx is still a beast, period.

 

Still trading blows with the 4080 and 5080 in raster and the 9070xt at best can match it but usually loses in raster plus you get 24GB.

 

Blocking and pushing 600w? Definitely let's see those results. 🙂

 

 

 

It would certainly be more interesting for me. Most of my finances have been tied up rebuilding my pseudo server rack but more importantly adding 4x 12TB drives and moving my data around + 10Gbps networking. Though I can only seem to hit around 6.1-6.5Gbps, using an NVME to PCIE adapter + ribbon extension likely the culprit, I can live on 6Gbps for Unraid OS. Its been my outlet of late while the GPU hellscape seems to endure for a while.

Most of the expenses for going water for me likely would be the rad and fans, I use a Window AC unit which keeps temps really low, around 55c @ 430w so perhaps initial testing may not dictate going water immediately. In which case its probably around 50 bucks.

I think I'll just sit pretty with my 5800X3D and 7900 XTX. 

If anything if I were to pour money into this hobby on the gaming side I'll probably get that ElmorLabs EVC2SE, waterblock and vBIOS to see if I could daily 600w on the Red Devil 7900 XTX. 

recently picked up some PTM7950 to see how well it reduces the hotspot temps, might do that this weekend.

Also repurposed the 10850K to be my unraid server :)

Welcome to the Forum! 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

This motherboard how it sits in the photo weights 15.2 pounds. 🤯 

 

It is 14”x14” and 192GB DDR4, CPU block, VRM block installed. It’s a massive 15+ pound chunk! 

 

Beautiful board! 

Steer the topic back towards the threads topic please. Thanks Everyone

I didnt realize how bad the market has gotten in the last few months. 

The Red Devil 7900 XTX that I traded plus cash for seems to be selling for double? Thats nuts

Also returning my 3rd 12TB drive, seems people are trying to offload junk on ebay/amazon

22 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yep. And it will be even worse. 

Microsoft removes Windows 11 24H2 official support on 8th 9th 10th Gen Intel CPUs

Sayan Sen · 9 hours ago

Microsoft has finally added the official CPU support list for Windows 11 version 24H2, and the company has strangely removed several Intel processors from it.

From what I understand this is for SI's, this changes nothing for DIY.

19 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I've never heard of it but I'll have to check it out. Thanks for sharing.

Its basically a NAS OS, the license is tied to the UID of the flash drive that its loaded on. The application they have for loading it on the drive is IMHO not the greatest but there are ways around it to accomplish effectively the same thing.

I was able to use a container, which required two other containers (RAM Cache + DB) for Manga, then another container for metadata to build the library. Same thing for my Anime library and the media server that it lives on. I was also able to build a mesh network with TailScale so my friend can access the same libraries without deliberately exposing my whole server to the internet. recently started toying with backups with UrBackup which was fairly easy to setup and get running.

One of my drives seemed to have either got unplugged or potentially failing last night.
 

Parity is already rebuilding that drive, that being said these drives all have 6+ years of on-time so its time to start phasing some of them out and getting a second parity drive.

Then you also have cache pools where logically they are all in the same location but physically pending how you set it up you set it up the behavior of the cache changes. For one you can have media cache just sit in the cache pool so that its quick and snappy. You can also transfer files to the Array that goes to the cache first (So that its super fast) and gets moved automatically or manually at a later time.

I have been debating moving the whole thing into the 10850K platform you sold me some time ago. Its currently on a Dell 7810 w/ 2667v3's but the threads are getting fully saturated from time to time pending what I am doing. 

The advent of Docker containers into a NAS OS is admittedly more fun that I originally thought it would be, I need to use something like Gemini from time to time to help me connect the dots as the containers dont always say what they need to operate. 


The other thing I want to better understand is ZFS. My understanding is that it uses RAM to cache files so that accessing them is faster. I wasnt able to get it to cache more than 16GB when there are many reports of people caching 256GB+ so I may try that again as I have 64GB in this current system but my 2 other towers have 128GB each and havent been using as much recently.

Going to try my hand at what people call the arr stack, basically its a fully automated process flow for media management, media metadata and integration into plex

10 hours ago, kojack said:

Ahhh gotcha!

Here's one way to fix it.

Good Evening All, 

Hiew had been lecturing me for some time now to get Unraid since I had so much random hardware laying around and got to say I should have done so sooner. Even bought a license after the trial ended, its been a lot of fun playing with the different docker containers to see what I can get working and for what purposes.

Anyone else dabble in Unraid? 

On 2/11/2025 at 8:50 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Hey Bros. Tomorrow morning I have my first brachytherapy procedure, with the second scheduled for 2/27. So, having me in your thoughts and prayers would be cherished. 

 

 

 

God Speed sir, we'll be here when you get back.

Dont sweat the double post, its taken care of. 

6 hours ago, johnksss said:

4090 is not needed to game on realistic settings.

"Rant"

It's more about the bragging factor when I see people actually talking about it. And as mentioned before, their KD's usually sucks. Kind of a reality for most because of showboating and not really having the skills to back up owning a high end card. No amount of a gazillion frames is going to help that person get better. You will get respect for owning one, but if you are trash.... Then the jokes will flow.

"End Rant"

We do not know for sure or at least until January 30th when all the NDA's for general public expire, but he was looking into to PNY, which Microcenter usually carries.

 

 

I so wish I would have went, but my mother took ill so I didn't make it, but I sure as hell would have done like I did the last time I went and that is tried to benchmark these new GPU's on the spot. To see for myself and get a real world perspective.

I hope your mothers health has improved! 

"Rant"

I felt similar, I would consider myself "Above Average" in FPS and a bit better in strategy. Its why I enjoyed the early days of R6 Siege, but then UBI geared it towards E-Sports and I always lose out to competent twitchy shooter types. Add in the mindless screeching from dead team mates telling me what to do, as well as UBI deleting my account for inactivity, all but killed any competitive spirit I had for the genre. 

These days I have fun with Monster Hunter and Unraid of all things. I must be getting older. 
"End Rant"



For everyone however, I would appreciate less pontification about politics. Talk tech? Sure, go ham. Speculation on what the US President is going do? keep it in a PM.

On 1/10/2025 at 7:42 PM, Papusan said:

 

You never know when you will be next on the melting list. But some  of the AIB partners have done the same what Galax did 2 years ago for the HOF. Asus followed up with the Matrix later. A chip to stop the melting. This should be the minimum with the stupid tiny power connector for <nvidia graphics. This should be a  minimum for a card that cost +1000$

 

Maybe stupid. But it is what it is. Bling bling, and not cheap but choices here home is low for faster 48GB stics. I never opted for Intel's failure (Arrow Lake) so I invest in old Raptor Lake. Higher speed memory means people will buy it in the used market when I move on (when, I don't know). I can just turn the RGB to all white. I wanted 2 x 24 GB Teamgroup T-Force Xtreem 8200 but as usual these have never been a choice here home. I have the nickel plated EK-Quantum Velocity² so it will fit well with the sticks https://www.proshop.no/RAM/GSkill-Trident-Z5-Royal-DDR5-8400-48GB-CL40-Dual-Channel-2-pcs-Intel-XMP-Soelv-med-RGB/3275216

 

 

Edit. The forum speed sucks @Reciever

 

Btw. I hope Trump  have the balls to  stop Nvidia....

 

Nvidia and SIA fire back at US gov's new export restrictions on AI GPUs to China

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/nvidia-and-sia-fire-back-at-u-s-govs-new-export-restrictions-on-ai-gpus-to-china

Forum is behaving as expected on my own :(

Lazy people bother me more than they should.

I don't mean lazy like hit the snooze four times but lazy to the point of repeated self inflicted career suicide. 

You are in the right spot! Welcome to the Forums

Do not double-triple post, or cross post. Continue this behavior and you will lose posting privileges. 

Is it possible to extend the heatpipes to the secondary GPU heatsink to create more dissipation for the CPU? 

Always wondered why I hadnt seen anything like that so perhaps there are some obstructions? Or perhaps make it harder to service? 

I love it! 

I only had the Ranger and did some mad scientist stuff to it but never dabbled with making a loop.

In any case, Welcome to the Forums!