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20k on 30min test? That's amazing. One test missing is 30 minutes throttle post LM repaste but without adjusting voltages. At least I don't see that on previous page.. I presume you're already through :- ). Looking at the chart, it's effectively just -125mV offset? Are the Power Limits on second chart necessary?

Thanks for all the photos and write-up ! Well, that is dissappointing, but the photos really say it all. That's a very small amount of copper in total, looks smaller than XPS17 and Razer Blade, for laptop that is twice as thick. And no vapor chamber despite being the highest config cpu+gpu wise. And it throttles without GPU even being engaged, meaning mixed workloads are even worse. Yeah this is nothing repasting or faster fans could have fixed... There was no point in putting HX range into these models sadly outside of marketing.

That's just insane tutorial :- ) Even without the e-cores catch, that's far too much of risk for production device.

I am looking for potential issues of accidently bricking expensive device :- ) Any issues with removing heatsink? Interesting the paste was that hard, I wonder if the body was in some state of semi-completness for months while chassis and display issues were being resolved.

If you'll get to repasting your 7670, would you mind taking pictures along way? I thought these CPUs can't be undervolted, are HX exception to this? I should really look through bios. Or do you plan to use Throttlestop?

Well since I already have 7670, I am "staying" from others already :- ). I wondered about the Z17 because that is their slim laptop, so I wonder how it would fare. It's possible they still paid better attention to cooling so it will still perform better than Precisions. It also gets bested by RazerBlade17 with 2 less cores, I have 10th gen of that laptop, and it's just so thin compared to 7670 performance chassis. And still lost.. It's just not a great look for Dell.

Hoho.. that is solid result. That is the absolutely outlandish looking one with cooling extended past display right? Is that kinda the pro version of the GE67? That kind of performance puts it into different light.. those are crazy differences. Really makes me think whether it's something I will consider. Even ugly things can become loved after certain time. I wonder how their Z17 would fare.

That is pretty brutal review.. Gaming laptops (particularly one as massive as the MSI GE67) have quite often better cooling, but to be able to score as much as 40perc. faster in throttle loop of CB23 is well.. something.

Are you sure you set it up correctly? You have to choose Advanced but after that still select minimum duration to=off. 1 pass takes less than minute. I used Dell's Power Management app set to mode "Ultra". I didn't want to play more with it further today so I didn't test all the profiles in single-pass. It might probably make much bigger difference than it does on default 10 minute throttle test. Will test tomorrow.

18K is actually fantastic result. Even the Asus Strix SE only reaches 21K (150W power draw) in its most extreme settings (From today's KitGuru review). Just to make sure, everyone is quoting the default 10 minute loop CB23 or single-pass ? Edit: 18K for single-pass in my 26C room ambient. 12850X. Honestly can imagine 21 if I take it to balcony :- ). Yeah my room is too hot but I have 1KW workstation going on under table and my windows is open all the time.. It does settle shortly into +/- 130W as well, so it can't sustain the 150+ for too long. I presume the Asus can since it has 21K. But reviewers really need to define what benchmark settings were used, CB23 is the first which has throttle test as stock default option. Further benching revealed no power limits for me either, boosts easily into 160W short-term, sustains 75-80W for 2 minute benchmarks (Corona). So just thermal limits and throttling. I am really pondering repaste more.. Adding Liquid Metal (Conductonaut) to my Razer Blade, will see how much it helped there and will decide after whether the risk is worth it. Perhaps interesting tidbit for someone: The 128GB CAMM module I have features dies of the same 2400MHz (4800 MT/s) memory, so it's just memory profile that limits it to 3600 MT/s. Theoretically, if someone has specific bandwidth limited process, they can disable two modules and set the frequency to 4800 MT/s. Not something I will be testing as I don't have any such workloads. @Easa: Indeed, fellow man from Bratislava/SK :- )

Looks like the Display is wired to iGPU instead of dedicated? After disabling the iGPU (so that I could run novideo_srgb clamp tool instead of Dell Premier color), I lose control over brightness. Hmm.

Hi, I'll write more further, but just quickly to confirm what the youtube review (2 samples!) and everyone else got, my 12850X score on new 7670 (with 128GB CAMM module, thus running only 3600 MT/s memory), is between 14k to 15k on CB23 depending on power profile. I haven't unfortunately got time to play more with this due to my work but I'll get to this soon. I received my laptop officially from Intel as sponsored CGI artist, but my opinions are my own, I am neither reviewer nor social media person :- ). My hunch is that there isn't problematic heatsink, but just usual shoddy paste job and conservative power settings. Yes, Win32asmguy's score improved, but, even by virtue of replacing heatsink, you are also repasting, so I wouldn't put that towards the heatsink alone. While I am decently confident in repasting, I am not sure I want to do that on brand new 8k Euro laptop. I will investigate more. If it's purely because of power management, that is ok with me since I like my laptop to be configured that way to run silent (and my 7670 is amazingly silent). But if it's indeed due to thermal constraints, that would be regrettable since this is very heavy&thick laptop, so there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to handle much higher thermal headroom. I have no complaints about anything though, it's very well built. No XPS-like trackpad issues, all sturdy solid, amazing OLED display. Best, Juraj