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Hah it throttles immediately if i let it(give it more than 80-90w to pl2, each time ive re-pasted I notice the mount seems to be one sided, which might also explain my 15-20c spread between my hottest two cores that end up making the system throttle. Yea i watch my temps, clocks, and what is limiting my chip each run religiously.

Yeap that's what got me out of the 12ks. I am tempted to go and check what it says they are set to, I do have a SS of when I did it and it's identical to others I found on this thread but still I kinda yoloed them in without even checking to see if it would be diff for my system. On another note: I didn't realize Asus Has the Expertbook b6, maybe it'll do better, plus the Hp zbook fury g9 I'm looking to order says it might not be ready until the end of the year, plus it's a pain to access for egpu purposes, a whole process. I'm at the point of looking at amd laptops now.. hooray for 0 performance gains (7770 12950hx w/o ecores has officially hit parity with my 5700g when oc/thermally throttling! And 6900hs laptops! 🙃😭)

So I tried these with my e cores disabled, it closed the gap I was having bing consistently stuck at 13800 now I'm at 14250. No liquid metal just kryonaut. Only diff is I gave core 1/2 5ghz but it doesn't seem to affect my cb scores. With your config over my old one I held 3.55ghz for much longer, like 75% of the run compared to 20% and didn't even drop under 3.45ghz. It also scores 13500-13900 consistently on back to back runs. Before the last changes I made I hit 18k @ 85/100 with everything enabled. Will try all cores enabled later but I suspect Ill be holding 3.3ghz on the p cores. My chip is likely poop quality, I have the sunnon fan heatsink n all. Maybe I'll do a third repastes to see if I can help the one core that throttles my whole machine, but only a 20-15c disparity so I doubt it'll help more. Only thing left to do heatsink wise is to try to remove material. With HP saying I won't get a zbook fury g9 in my same config until a week before Christmas, I really want to part out my desktop while I have good returns but at this rate I might be waiting. Atleast the 64gb kit I got for $240 works like a charm. Also did you send your system back? As is this is as fast as my thermally limited 5700g desktop but for $700 it's a joke. It's like almost every non gaming i9 just throttles down to h series performance. I'd be just as good hunting for a last gen Intel laptop or a Ryzen laptop with two (or more) m.2. I'm going to give up getting anywhere close to 15-17k w/o ecores.

Nope, no dgpu here nearly same jazz.

Okay I have seen this one before but I passed because it was hp and I've had issues with their designs and build quality over the years, I didn't realize it has near full feature parity between the 7770. It's a bit more expensive than what I paid for the dell and only a little more than the Lenovo. Edit: After looking up the SSD placement, this has to be THE LEAST egpu friendly setup I've seen yet. Which puts me in between a rock and a hard place. Have you seen any data on the g9s cooling ability? If it is good enough it's still better for my use cases back cover needing to be removed or not. Also why 3 years specifically, warranty stuff?

This video by debauer shows me something funny, when he limits the new gen processors to 90w they performs like my 12950hx out of the box at 80-90w. Interesting video notheless cuz I'm sure some of y'all here are looking at these 13900k numbers drooling. Ik i am at times.

Yeap I did the loadline fix via grub as well as the oc/uv change, it got me from the mid 12ks to the mid/high 13ks. I have yet to play with it today, I was up till 4 am messing with it. I knew it was sunnons too the second I turned it on, it was quite quiet up until fan rpms pass the mid 2ks, then it was depressing the next 1k, not a turbo jet but definitely something that flies. Scores started regressing so I figured it was sleep time. I have played with blocking the sides of the fans to force the one fan on the inside to push air only through the heatsink and the outside fan to only push air through over the m.2/ram/heatsink along with some additional foam to stop airflow from passing over the heatpipes on the topside a little more. I do need to recheck clearances again for that stuff but it did alow me to boost 100-150mhz higher for 80% of a cb run. Gunna unblock the outside fan though, I'd like to hear less violent airflow and make full use of the extra two inches of heatpipe again. May take pics if I find it's actually effective and not just time in-between tests related flukes. I'm also having reason to believe for whatever reason I can't get my undervolting to apply, either that or my chip is a garbage bin, which kills me inside for the 6th pc component in a row. If I find anything else inside the week that gets me atleast to 17k and performance inside of other apps and the few games I've tested on the igpu (lol, nothing a 750ti couldn't run decently) isn't horrible then I'll keep it. If not I'd really like to see if the uglier p16 can atleast run things cooler. To be honest if I could get a quiet 15k I'd probably keep it just because it's the best fit. I really wish I had the time and rnd budget to make a shell that is ~50% thicker but crammed with cooling. I have a 3.0 dock on hand but I'm awaiting a new 4.0 dock(last one got dmged in shipping apparently, new one late Oct early nov), my 3.0 doesn't turn on my psu and I have killed a cute lil Rx 460 4gb with it so I'm not going to test it just to get proven lacking vs 3.0 x8 or 4.0 x4. (SATA power to 4 pin did it most likely, switched to molex and a 750ti performed w/o issue slot only power. Still a 6900xt will pull every amp the slot will give so no yolo here sir)

To add if things had even a little upside I would try to sand down my coolers baseplate, but I have reason to believe my pcore that is 15-20c higher than my lowest at peak is on the side of the heatpipes opposite of the fans. I have little hope of even a 2c reductions after a mod that should help any cooler with mounting eveness problems.

Welp I haven't even had mine for a whole day. The 7770 has the slot cover which makes it by far the most convenient for m.2 egpu setups but the throttling is so bad that it is worse than any zen 3/3+ based 8c mobile processors which is my bare minimum, I've side graded from a 3700x and 5700g to a worse (with e cores disabled and limited to 80w to avoid immediate heat throttling) 12950hx. I didn't even mind if it's a bit louder than my nhl9x65 cooled 5700g, who has no breathing room (~5mm gap behind GPU) so is loud af. I was hopping not having a dgpu would give enough headroom to boost past 3.5ghz consistently, wrong was I, I've been stuck at 3.25-3.375 depending on if I can keep my fans ramped. I've tested some basic mods to mess with airflow to no avail, still horrible. Power fix and underclocking helped but barely, difference between cbr23 mid 12k and mid 13k(again no ecores rn), which is right under my 5700g @ stock 65w, and that performance does not translate to every program, which only makes me want to toss this machine into the trash. It also seems like mounting pressure is uneven as hell, I've got one core hitting 100c, some in the mid 90s and two in the mid 80s. I've done two repastes with kryonaut and both performed ~2c better. I'm looking at the Lenovo p16 when it comes out as it's the only other system I saw configurable without a GPU and 12950hx, whilst only having two m.2 slots that means I'd have to squeeze onto my 2tb or upgrade to a 4tb, and have the other one for my egpu. This seems the be the next best deal, only a few hundred more than my 7770 after its %45 off. If not the p16 then I'll grab one of MSIs i9 (don't remember if they offer the 12950hx) laptops even though I'd basically disable the dgpu for non travel use (90% of my usage is docked) the dgpu, but would remove the requirement for a travel egpu. Atleast I know they will keep my 12950hx cool and maybe has enough headroom to boost higher if I disable the ecores. At this point I could've gotten a 5800x3d and a budget gaming laptop and been relatively fine up until I start doing alot (3-5 week+ long trips planned already, rip) of traveling next year.

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Got mine today, installing windows 11 currently. I hate myself for putting windows on a new system as arch/Manjaro or fedora would've been a better fit, even steam os 3.3 is a better fit. But I'm here to test CPU performance so my dual boot will have to wait until tomorrow.

Thanks! 🙏🏼

Are those with the stock pads? I've been eyeing some thermal grizzly minus pads and conductonaut but with your findings maybe just a $15 of kyronaut or maybe I'll try my big tube of nht1, which is sufficient for my 280mm aio (poorly) cooled 6900xt, would allow similar results for my laptop.

All i can think of mod wise is a m.2 heatsink or two on the heatpipes where the GPU would be and that could give a bit more thermal headroom before the heatpipe hit their peak thermal limits but probably to minimal effect. Watercooling the heatpipes would likely not give worthwhile gains and if I had a spare m.2/ram waterblock, rad, pump and time I would test it and normal water-cooling configurations, but I dont. Just enough time for simple, reversable mods. I just looked at some of their other configurations (ie the alienware stuff) and whilst some skus have lackluster cooling others in THE SAME PRICE BRACKET have MUCH better cooling configurations and not just for the cpu or gpu alone, but both. Most of which relocated alot of the io to the rear of the system allowing heatpipe arrays(6+ heatpipes vs fucking 2) and multiple fans on both the left and right side of the system with better vrm configs/vrm cooling. In the 7670/7770 configuration the second your gpu is running it would basically get ALL cooling priority, and even without a gpu its still not enough for basically any HX sku to hit its power/performance sweet spots to make them worthwhile over any h series or ryzen 8 core processor with any kind of decent cooling config. To add, the fact Dell decided that the top heatpipe no longer needs to extend across all of the heatsink array is even more disrespect, regardless of small percentile gains. And excuse me if that is just a 7670 vs 7770 discrepancy. Msi even has well cooled gaming laptops with 3 m.2 gen 4 and 1 m.2 gen 5 (could be useful for us egpu folk if signal integrity doesn't just fall off a cliff without a redriver every 5" (4.0 was 10-12")), not that I can configure them without a dgpu which is the 7770s 1st key selling point for me (just makes egpu stuff easier), 2nd being x4 4.0 m.2 slots. My 7770 has been build complete for nearly a week but the shipping date is still a month out. :( Even worse is i'm debating if its worth sending back immediately and just dealing with paying for a msi laptop with a dgpu I will disable 95% of the time but has a better cooling configuration that would more likely gain more performance via tweaks rather than needing tweaks to reclaim some of the stock performance at the cost of hot palms. Not my first rodeo but boy do they get annoying. Edit: just randomly on YouTube and guess what got suggested. Intel's 12th gen hx series validation platform gaming demo video. And even it's cooling config for the CPU is a magnitude better. Two big and one small heatpipes going to two heatsink arrays, with plenty of length for extra thermal mass. Not this thin and light style stuff. 7770 shouldn't offer anything above the h series in this cooling configuration. Workstation I think not. Like how many owners will even see this thread and see the hustle made to find the sweet spot to get 90% of the performance offered from that same piece of silicone with better cooling. How many will not see any gains over last gen Intel 8c16th or Ryzen 8c16th offerings from their new 16c24th processor? Sorry for my rant about a laptop I don't even have yet but these results are utterly disappointing.

Have a 12950hx version otw mid next month without a dgpu for egpu via pcie 4.0 laptop testing. Will try to remember to report back my findings once I open it up. Whilst i'm open to cooling mods, if it appears to require too much precision cad(custom heatsink/pipe work) work i'll be sending it back. Also testing Kingston Fury Impact DDR5 4800mhz cl38 sodimm 32gbx2 ecc kit. Yolo