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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Get out lol What's the wattage of your chiller? 2kW or something? What's the coolant temp? -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Off the top of my head: gpu 1100 thank you post card for Jensen, draw something nice 5 cpu 700 Arctic LFII AIO 100 Mobo 250 psu 200 ram 200 case 100 monitor 200 (ok, had to check the 1440p thing: https://www.newegg.com/p/15Z-0038-000T1?Description=1440p monitor&cm_re=1440p_monitor-_-15Z-0038-000T1-_-Product ) keyboard and mouse 100 SSD 100 $3055. Sure some compromises would have to be made, but the system would be faster than the $2800 laptop, in addition to being cooler, more robust, upgradeable and repairable. A different class of device basically. You can potentially cut that spend significantly using second hand parts (although the strategy is not risk free, depending on the source). Nice. What were the GPU temps? Can't see a blue line on the graph with the positive scale there :) -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Hardly surprising. Shunt-modded? 25400 TS graphics on the 3090Ti: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/29439566 -
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The complaint is more around their general marketing practices. Gimped product re-releases, ever more gimped VRAM bandwidth, "4090" half the speed of the real thing. At the very least they should have slapped an M or Max-Q on. BTW Last time I checked my 3090 Ti FE scored around 23k in TS Graphics with some very mild OC (that Micron VRAM makes me nervous lol). Clearly, it would go further on air alone if I made any serious effort (case fans were idle-ish I think), not to mention inside a water block with a chiller attached. Not even going into shunt modding. -
I find GB to be a bit of an insult to geeks. It's very short, therefore the results are quite noisy and thus somewhat unreliable. Otherwise, always good to see AMD breathing down Intel's neck, and pushing them to do more hardcore work for us :)
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
People say that "4090" mobile is equivalent to 3090 Ti, and that's roughly true from the casual gamer's perspective, although I would take 3090 Ti desktop every time since it 8 GB more VRAM, NVLink and I imagine still runs cooler. Not to mention that a laptop GPU is really inappropriate for any extended work, since all you are thinking about, once you actually manage to gather your thoughts over the shrieking laptop fan noise, is "when exactly will the whole thing fail". The 3090 Ti also edges "4090" out in many benchmarks and games at 4K: https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3090-Ti-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.635434.0.html Basically, "4090 mobile" is another recent example of deceptive and misleading marketing by NGreedia. Not only is the thing seriously power-limited, but the memory bandwidth is half that of a 3090 Ti. That level of mutilation is not even funny. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090-mobile.c3949 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3090-ti.c3829 Same, with theoretical performance - gimped vs the 3090Ti, and by a large margin. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Wow. a WCed turdbook. I thought that was a cool idea, until I realised the most likely outcome under serious load would be similar to this: $2800 down the drain, that could have gone into an entry level Sapphire Rapids Xeon :) -
Some areas just need more vodka apparently (or much much less, whichever is easier).
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Particularly from a broader point of reference yes, but people can't do that easily (e.g. change the scope of one's 'tribe' to 'humanity'), if at all. A grand global cause, ideally one that would not involve a threat of mass extinction, would help with that, but none is in sight at present unfortunately and things are regressing overall. I'm not sure Twitter is helping, at any rate - it seems to be doing less lately, which is probably for the best.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
One of the most appealing features of that board is the support for octa-channel memory. If I understand correctly, Z690/790 are dual-channel (quad-channel internally), which leads tuo difficulties with 4 sticks. If W790 is octa (hexa internally) the a board with 8 sticks would run one channel per stick, meaning that high density modules would operate not only in parallel, but also at full speed.. https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/workstation/pro-ws-w790e-sage-se/techspec/ There is a flaw though: neither of the Asus W790 boards support Thunderbolt. Did Intel cut that out of Sapphire Rapids? Thst would be an interesting move, given that the platform is aimed at professionals and creators. Edit: TB supported by an ASRock board: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/W790 WS/index.asp Nothing from MSI yet. -
A lot of social media as well as the content of reddit and various forums is tribal, for the very simple reason that most humans are are wired to be strongly tribal. Thankfully, there is also public space for well formulated and community-moderated statements of fact free of tribalism: Wikipedia. While I'm not entirely sure what the exact scope of the algo in question is, it does seem to be at the core of Twitter operations, so normally the complete implementation might contain non-trivial fine detail of competitive value. Perhaps another reason it might be open sourced (as hinted at by the tweet above), is to just reveal it because he plans to deprecate it, but also with this many leavers, any material IP is on the street already.
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/** The Twitter Algo v 1.2 RTFC hardcore until at least 4a.m. - Elon */ (Edit: apparently, most of Twitter is written in Ruby. Good luck finding Ruby devs to read that stuff I guess, adds another level of weirdness to the mass firings)
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There may be are a number of different reasons for which a company would consider open-sourcing proprietary software, and they don't apply in all circumstances, e.g. iD Software open sourced Quake code mostly for educational purposes when it became completely obsolete. Sounds like this is more of a combination of a desire to engage community and make Twitter a "people's platform", a publicity stunt really, with a potential to engage some free external resources, given the systematic extermination of the internal talent pool... The flip-side of course is that this algorithm can probably be considered Twitter's secret sauce, i.e. IP, therefore by open-sourcing it he is destroying some of that value, and informing potential competing platforms. That's of course assuming that what is released (if it is released), is the actual current algorithm. I know, I know - Elon promised, but on the other hand Elon is Elon :)
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How is open sourcing the algorithm going to help, apart from greatly facilitating the development of fake news bots?
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yeah, they obviously have to minimise the die area of the consumer chips to maximise yield, although I do wonder if just using a larger IHS would help? I guess they want to make the consumer CPUs work with small mini ITX boards or something. Also why not use an IHS technology such that delidding no longer serves any purpose? I guess reliability. The Xeons have to carry a huge premium because of a) much larger die area, b) being sold in much lower volumes, so all the fixed costs including R&D need to be covered by probably 10-1000x fewer units. From purely performance/price viewpoint they are a poor deal unless > 128GB, or ECC memory etc are required, or the work cannot be distributed across multiple machines. Of course, none of that reasoning applies if satisfying a need for benching domination is the goal :) -
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Not even twice as fast as 13900K at $1k including the motherboard lol. Not to mention that the 56 core CPU he tested won't even be available in retail. Yeah, PCWorld - the paid advocates of AW and NVidia. -
All that said, Linux distros are quite different to what they were 20 years ago. A user with basic requirements such as running off the shelf apps will rarely, if ever, need to tinker. I would think about something like Ubuntu or PopOS as unlocked ChromeOS. Yes, you can dive in deeper, but if all you need is a ChromeOS experience + games via Steam then you are unlikely to ever need to touch shell. I have family member who uses Ubuntu this way, the only questions I get are "hey, do I upgrade the OS as per the popup?"
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
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The pad is very thin and obviously has plastic cover on both sides. I removed one side and applied the pad sort of as you would a screen protector (easy to end up with bubbles!). Once the pad is on the CPU, removing the plastic on the other side without ripping the actual pad off proved tricky. Will keep you posted. Is your pad Honeywell-branded BTW?
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BTW -h on commands such as ls, df, du shows file sizes in human-readable format, e.g. 2KB, 5MB. Also tne above is the results of ls -al, which is verbose. ls just prints file names by default :)
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Thanks guys. Wow, my knowledge of formatting was really stuck. Full format used to work the way I described... a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, i.e. on floppy drives and early hard drives which required low-level formatting... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting @Reciever I also blame Windows here lol The legacy name "format" used in then DOS and now Windows is misleading. Linux has a better name for the command: mkfs This makes it clearer you are just "making" the filesystem, not physically formatting the underlying block device! -
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Technically only true in case of the quick format. Full format will overwrite all data and unused space. True these days, thanks! Either way there wouldn't be any dlls for us to go delete manually afterwards as far as the OS is concerned :) -
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Sure. Just a small correction: if if format a harddrive, everything on it, including any .dlls will be gone already - otherwise a solid plan bro :) -
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Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
This is a wild ride, even by @ryan's impressive standards lol -
The pad. I paid off a local ebay scalper so delivery was quick - shame on me :( Tricky to apply, glad I ordered a 80x40mm sheet, I ruined the first half. The application kit was helpful. Performance was poor initially (275W max power in CB23) and then the magic started happening, each CB23 run the max power draw started climbing - went up to 335W, which is the highest I can remember. Now fell off to 320W which is still good compared to other pastes after a few days. Fingers crossed. I have to note that the pad I received was not Honeywell branded, just a generic PTM7950. Have another one coming from China just in case. I don't really see a reason to try the paste, however, might do if this fails.