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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
People say that "4090" mobile is equivalent to 3090 Ti, and that's roughly true from the casual gamer's perspective, although I would take 3090 Ti desktop every time since it 8 GB more VRAM, NVLink and I imagine still runs cooler. Not to mention that a laptop GPU is really inappropriate for any extended work, since all you are thinking about, once you actually manage to gather your thoughts over the shrieking laptop fan noise, is "when exactly will the whole thing fail". The 3090 Ti also edges "4090" out in many benchmarks and games at 4K: https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3090-Ti-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.635434.0.html Basically, "4090 mobile" is another recent example of deceptive and misleading marketing by NGreedia. Not only is the thing seriously power-limited, but the memory bandwidth is half that of a 3090 Ti. That level of mutilation is not even funny. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4090-mobile.c3949 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3090-ti.c3829 Same, with theoretical performance - gimped vs the 3090Ti, and by a large margin. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Wow. a WCed turdbook. I thought that was a cool idea, until I realised the most likely outcome under serious load would be similar to this: $2800 down the drain, that could have gone into an entry level Sapphire Rapids Xeon :) -
Some areas just need more vodka apparently (or much much less, whichever is easier).
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Particularly from a broader point of reference yes, but people can't do that easily (e.g. change the scope of one's 'tribe' to 'humanity'), if at all. A grand global cause, ideally one that would not involve a threat of mass extinction, would help with that, but none is in sight at present unfortunately and things are regressing overall. I'm not sure Twitter is helping, at any rate - it seems to be doing less lately, which is probably for the best.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
One of the most appealing features of that board is the support for octa-channel memory. If I understand correctly, Z690/790 are dual-channel (quad-channel internally), which leads tuo difficulties with 4 sticks. If W790 is octa (hexa internally) the a board with 8 sticks would run one channel per stick, meaning that high density modules would operate not only in parallel, but also at full speed.. https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/workstation/pro-ws-w790e-sage-se/techspec/ There is a flaw though: neither of the Asus W790 boards support Thunderbolt. Did Intel cut that out of Sapphire Rapids? Thst would be an interesting move, given that the platform is aimed at professionals and creators. Edit: TB supported by an ASRock board: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/W790 WS/index.asp Nothing from MSI yet. -
A lot of social media as well as the content of reddit and various forums is tribal, for the very simple reason that most humans are are wired to be strongly tribal. Thankfully, there is also public space for well formulated and community-moderated statements of fact free of tribalism: Wikipedia. While I'm not entirely sure what the exact scope of the algo in question is, it does seem to be at the core of Twitter operations, so normally the complete implementation might contain non-trivial fine detail of competitive value. Perhaps another reason it might be open sourced (as hinted at by the tweet above), is to just reveal it because he plans to deprecate it, but also with this many leavers, any material IP is on the street already.
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/** The Twitter Algo v 1.2 RTFC hardcore until at least 4a.m. - Elon */ (Edit: apparently, most of Twitter is written in Ruby. Good luck finding Ruby devs to read that stuff I guess, adds another level of weirdness to the mass firings)
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There may be are a number of different reasons for which a company would consider open-sourcing proprietary software, and they don't apply in all circumstances, e.g. iD Software open sourced Quake code mostly for educational purposes when it became completely obsolete. Sounds like this is more of a combination of a desire to engage community and make Twitter a "people's platform", a publicity stunt really, with a potential to engage some free external resources, given the systematic extermination of the internal talent pool... The flip-side of course is that this algorithm can probably be considered Twitter's secret sauce, i.e. IP, therefore by open-sourcing it he is destroying some of that value, and informing potential competing platforms. That's of course assuming that what is released (if it is released), is the actual current algorithm. I know, I know - Elon promised, but on the other hand Elon is Elon :)
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How is open sourcing the algorithm going to help, apart from greatly facilitating the development of fake news bots?
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yeah, they obviously have to minimise the die area of the consumer chips to maximise yield, although I do wonder if just using a larger IHS would help? I guess they want to make the consumer CPUs work with small mini ITX boards or something. Also why not use an IHS technology such that delidding no longer serves any purpose? I guess reliability. The Xeons have to carry a huge premium because of a) much larger die area, b) being sold in much lower volumes, so all the fixed costs including R&D need to be covered by probably 10-1000x fewer units. From purely performance/price viewpoint they are a poor deal unless > 128GB, or ECC memory etc are required, or the work cannot be distributed across multiple machines. Of course, none of that reasoning applies if satisfying a need for benching domination is the goal :) -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Not even twice as fast as 13900K at $1k including the motherboard lol. Not to mention that the 56 core CPU he tested won't even be available in retail. Yeah, PCWorld - the paid advocates of AW and NVidia. -
All that said, Linux distros are quite different to what they were 20 years ago. A user with basic requirements such as running off the shelf apps will rarely, if ever, need to tinker. I would think about something like Ubuntu or PopOS as unlocked ChromeOS. Yes, you can dive in deeper, but if all you need is a ChromeOS experience + games via Steam then you are unlikely to ever need to touch shell. I have family member who uses Ubuntu this way, the only questions I get are "hey, do I upgrade the OS as per the popup?"
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
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The pad is very thin and obviously has plastic cover on both sides. I removed one side and applied the pad sort of as you would a screen protector (easy to end up with bubbles!). Once the pad is on the CPU, removing the plastic on the other side without ripping the actual pad off proved tricky. Will keep you posted. Is your pad Honeywell-branded BTW?
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BTW -h on commands such as ls, df, du shows file sizes in human-readable format, e.g. 2KB, 5MB. Also tne above is the results of ls -al, which is verbose. ls just prints file names by default :)
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Thanks guys. Wow, my knowledge of formatting was really stuck. Full format used to work the way I described... a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, i.e. on floppy drives and early hard drives which required low-level formatting... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting @Reciever I also blame Windows here lol The legacy name "format" used in then DOS and now Windows is misleading. Linux has a better name for the command: mkfs This makes it clearer you are just "making" the filesystem, not physically formatting the underlying block device! -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Technically only true in case of the quick format. Full format will overwrite all data and unused space. True these days, thanks! Either way there wouldn't be any dlls for us to go delete manually afterwards as far as the OS is concerned :) -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Sure. Just a small correction: if if format a harddrive, everything on it, including any .dlls will be gone already - otherwise a solid plan bro :) -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Etern4l replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
This is a wild ride, even by @ryan's impressive standards lol -
The pad. I paid off a local ebay scalper so delivery was quick - shame on me :( Tricky to apply, glad I ordered a 80x40mm sheet, I ruined the first half. The application kit was helpful. Performance was poor initially (275W max power in CB23) and then the magic started happening, each CB23 run the max power draw started climbing - went up to 335W, which is the highest I can remember. Now fell off to 320W which is still good compared to other pastes after a few days. Fingers crossed. I have to note that the pad I received was not Honeywell branded, just a generic PTM7950. Have another one coming from China just in case. I don't really see a reason to try the paste, however, might do if this fails.
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I don't think it's realistic to expect Linux to be as easy as Windows for someone migrating from Windows (sort of by definition of migration, and again, mind you: many people find Windows confusing, or certainly aren't super-comfortable with all the features). Using Linux is not necessarily that much more complicated, were you to start from scratch, just unfamiliar if you are coming from Windows. A newcomer needs to learn to do things differently, same as they would if they were getting started with MacOS. Here are some examples: Windows -> Linux Windows window manager - > one of several window managers available on Linux: KDE, Gnome, Mate, Xfce etc. (pretty straightforward except for maybe KDE) Windows filesystem layout -> UNIX/GNU/Linux filesystem layout (and filesystem features such as links and symlinks which are very rarely used on Windows) Drive letters -> C: is the root "/" + flexible mounting of drives/volumes anywhere you want Registry -> Config files Devices in device manager -> Devices in /dev Windows app store -> Linux Software Manager apps (generally distro specific) + package managers, flatpaks etc. if you want to understand what's happening under the hood There are also things which will be largely alien to an average Windows user, but are not uncommon on LInux (although a new user can certainly do without): * Building software from source (after all most things are open source) - doesn't really require any programming knowledge, usually just one command copied from README file * Using shell/terminal on a regular basis (so one needs to learn the GNU system commands and basics of say bash) If I were to start now, I would probably read a book, or at least google and go through some tutorials. People with more of a tech background, might be tempted to do a short course, e.g.: https://www.coursera.org/learn/linux-fundamentals#syllabus Trying to wing it might prove frustrating. So the question is why, and here are several benefits to be realised, depending on one's priorities: * Much improved privacy (although Windows can be hacked to somewhat mitigate privacy issues) * Improved security * Lower software cost * Supporting the idea of an open system * Improved system/application performance (more of an advanced topic - it's not a given that things will just run faster on any Linux distro, however, in certain domains pretty much a guarantee) * Not supporting MS and its direction of travel under the current leadership, if that's an attractive proposition * Access to native GNU environment * Developing new tech skills around Linux * Reduced RAM utilization / making some older hardware (think a <= 4GB RAM laptop) great again - something like Ubuntu MATE requires about 1GB of RAM after boot while looking like a Mac pro (and there are even lighter options)
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Fail. I looked at the perf comparison chart, but the 2060 there was the desktop variant....
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Yeah, the Turing RTX 3000 (confusingly, Nvidia will have soon released like 4 different chips under the same name) is actually about 20% behind 2060, but still if you got the whole laptop for about a grand, that sounds like a decent deal. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-rtx-3000-mobile.c3428
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Precisions are reliably said to be solid machines, but obviously RTX 3000 is an entry level GPU that would probably disappoint in gaming.