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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Pretty simple, test using game/program taking between 90 to 100% usage of GPU, check GPU core temp with Msi Afterburner and if core temp is lower than 90 celsius, any sudden shutdown means power delivery overheat. Not all GPUs, especially those in laptop, lets you check those. I checked height of original heatsink and compared that to mine.- 97 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
It was windows update that corrupted my me region along with bios .... I used windows 10 ssd for using nvflashk for vBIOS flash (it was faster than learning how to do same in ubuntu), used it for like 4 minutes, after successful flash I restarted... "WAIT FOR UPDATES BEING DONE" During those few seconds before I pull plug, it made so much destruction. I had to use different flash chip and search for original bios dump!! ME region destroyed laptop entered manufacture mode! And I used Windows Update blocker on that drive (it was "emergency safe win10" external ssd). Now it is working again. But let it be warning for everyone =] TL;DR - using Win10 for vBIOS flash broke my laptop BIOS. GPU is fine- 97 replies
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Tried different distros, finally stayed on one seemed most known to me (I had experience since version 8.04 was considered new). I always had given up on learning and using it as daily driver, now I sometimes have some problems, but lefty loosy - righty tighty and still not going back anymore to Windows.. especially after last 3 buggy reinstalls in 2 weeks.. EDIT: It is Ubuntu, 24.10 And Arch also known as SteamOS on my SD.
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FS: HP nVIDIA Quadro P5200 16GB GDDR5 MXM-B
GuitarG replied to triturbo's topic in Computer Components
It could be sign of not compatible GPU core temperature sensor. Laptop enters panic mode, fans goes with max speed and turns off after minute. There was one guy, to whom I sold my P5200, that described problem (here on forum) and solved it. Then P5200 worked flawless with his Clevo. You have to look for throttle reason (in Throttle stop) and I suspect it could be power limit (because of not compatible temp sensor). PCI gen 2 wouldn't limit wattage given to GPU -
Nice mod ! I modded my Eee PC a little too, it ran everything I threw at it, every retro game from DOS to Win 98 era. It was 900 series model.
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
As good as it can get now, benchmarks after "another patch":- 97 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
True, best and very costly way, I got quoted almost 150$ for one ! And then is even bigger problem, heatpipes. It wasnt possible for me to set them up like I imagined. That is because of laptop non-negotiable dimensions like battery or RAM slots. Sadly. I circled two troublesome VRM's protrusions, depth for coil cooling is also different Now hardest part comes - to solder it. And if works like intended - paint job.- 97 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Thanks ! Still ironing heatsink out, I forgot about different thermal pads dimensions. It shame I don't have some nice CNC machine. I played for a while and temps were up to 90C turbo CPU and GPU 70-80C depending on load. VRM or VRAM overheated once after 30 minutes, so I'm making corrections What PCB do you have in mind ? If first photo, it is donor board+case cutted up for aligning heatsink with highest homemade precision 🙂 I use damaged CPU and GPU board, screw heatsink on and clamp heatpipes.- 97 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Secret for success is to align first, then push harder second time. After baking like this first, then its screwed harder and heatsink only for max efficiency Now time for final tests, touch and black paint- 97 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
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I have same model & revision, so that one seems more safe choice. Differences are much more stable behavior, hardware bugs fixed. Using my P5200 as example, in rev A that card would burn its power delivery if used with +90W bios. With rev D it could use 110W for long time with no problem. Model and revision says about board, not core used. It is true about perfomance loss in SG, up to 15%. For that alienware it seems you may have two options: 1. two board versions, one for edp other for lvds 2. one board version using single connector and two different lcd cables (like my HP). With eDP you would have much more LCD panels to choose from (LVDS is on its last breath). DP signals are different than embededd DP, eDP drives with PWM internal LCD brightness, use of closed-lid hall effect swtich for turning it off when closed, most important ones.
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Quadro cards are (or at least were) a lot more tested for high quality and reliability. They are made from better silicon dies than consumer grade chips. My previous Quadro P5200 had almost a non existent resistance on VCore, it was much more efficient than typical GPU. For your question, it depends on how your laptop generate graphical output. There are generally 2 ways, using internal GPU as internal display driver or dedicated GPU only. With first one you can safely assume most GPUs will work. With second options, you have to be careful. Mxm card have to use correct vbios and drive internal display. On schematic you can read that laptop can output in serveral ways, you can disable Intel iGPU and use eDP-dGPU only. Quality Samples may don't have *final* specs - in worst case you may have downclocked GPU, no Nvidia PhysX, Raytracing etc. It depends
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HP one is Quality Sample, because it is "Model 0MB" and additionaly first Rev (A). HP Quadro RTX surely supports eDP, though. I'm using one taken from Zbook 17 G6 in my 8570W. Remember that you have a lot of modification to do with it. X clamp is 5mm offset, so are two mounting points too. As for green RTX I don't know anything I could help with.
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
New board, new approach. This time results satisfy me more Soldered two pieces of metal to original mounting points, holds very hard and screws RTX very nicely. Now I have to sort, dissasembly and test a lot of copper pipes. And lastly, solder whole heatsink assembly- 97 replies
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HP Elitebook 8570W - is it still good ? Hardware modifications
GuitarG replied to GuitarG's topic in Custom Builds
Interesting setup spotted in Asus laptop - third fan. It is funny to see similar approach to temperature problem as my second fan blowing additional air to GPU cooler- 97 replies