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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I'm so glad the damage was material only and everyone is safe and sound @Papusan!! Material items can be replaced / covered. Loved ones can not. Good fortune it didn't hit the house or do even worse. By chance, was your collection of Crocs maybe caught under the tree? Maybe? 🙂 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Claims of turning a 9070 into a 9070xt have been greatly exaggerated.....as always..... Agreed, the juice isn't worth the squeeze on that one. Eventually a time will come around where you might have a scenario where you can test it in transit, but with everything set up as now? Nope. So both the 9950X and memory are retail rolling the dice? Good luck! My experience with EXPO is similar with some kits. They work as rated, but if you lower the frequency, they suddenly become unstable. This was the case with a Crucial 6400 kit and G.Skill 6000 kit. I've also had several needing more voltage on the Aorus B650i than rated versus the x870e Hero. I can see why kits get returned with such unstable variability. In the end, I just end up dialing each and every kit in manually. Same as I did for years on Intel. That, in turn, shows the variance between even "same" kits which made me realize (you too obviously) that binning also exists with memory kits too to go along with CPUs, GPUs and depending on how hard you're pushing even motherboards. Ugh... 🤣 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Can the Strix run 8200 looser or caps out at 8000 regardless? -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Overall trend from makers like Thermalrite and ID Cooling and more along with even MSI and Phanteks offering excellent 360mm AIOs for $100 or below. Go to PCpartpicker and the sheer amount of 360mm AIOs available for sub $60 is refreshing to view. Even 360mm models with LCD displays now can be had for sub $100. This flies in the face of Asus and NZXT trying to pass off display enabled AIOs for $440 and $300 respectively. Insane and truly made for the idiots out there. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Most modern users, even over on OC, all prefer clean runs to their 5090s and below. Most are either using the supplied PSU 12vhpwr cable or custom ordering one for their PSU with the connector included. Just about every model in the Nvidia consumer stack now uses it. Who in this forum are using the tentacle and running it to 4x PCIe 8 pin connectors to the 5090 besides me? Unfortunately we're three generations in now on Nvidia and the 12vhpwr connector. Nvidia dominates the market so it makes sense that PSU makers are starting to default to having one on their PSU What I would like to see though is always having at least 4x 8 pin connectors too along side it especially on models 850w+ and up but the bean counters have run their numbers and some models are sacrificing them for $$$. For lesser wattage models I can kind of give it a pass. So far we've only seen two AMD models with it: The Taichi and the Nitro+ 9070xt models. I suspect more will adopt it for future models. 😞 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
What the hell man!!!! Et Tu @Raiderman?!?! 🤢 On the other hand, the system looks great as long as you remove that abomination from the foreground.... 🤣 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Decent video showing once again the power of X3D but more importantly the overall futility of 6000 vs 6400 vs 8000 for AM5 along with the strength of 2DPC boards vs 1DPC with 800 series chipsets.... I'd like to see this run back on non X3D chips.... -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I forgot to add in I have those Kingspec 8400 sticks too that are currently running tight CL28 2000/6000 on the B650i I'll also test. Sheesh, my local MC has 25+ of those 5080s in stock for $899.99. I'm still waiting for 9070xt's to bottom out a bit more to pick up another one for my SFF for testing. I have and will continue to avoid Furmark like the plague, but always fun to see others run it for shiggles. Whew, CPU still toasty? What was your final analysis of the Alienware 18 5090 you have (had?) overall and in comparison. WoW on both systems? Full W10 support on the newest hardware is nice! I didn't realize it came with the 285HX either. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Nice! I'll have to give these a once over and see what they do on my Hero x870e and 9800X3D w/ T-Force 8200 sticks and B650i Aorus Ultra (1DPC) and 9600x. I've just been running 2200/6400 (Hero) and 2000/6000 (Aorus). -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I'm not surprised. Targeted and blanket marketing across many companies and spectrums, like many things nefarious, will use the tools available to them and now it happens to be AI and bots. Still sad to see from MSI 😞 (Hugs Vanguard while rocking back and forth and asking MSI 'Why? WHY?") 😂 Best bet is to have a games only install of W11/10 if you're that concerned with nothing else of value installed. The low level access afforded to anti-cheat measures is pretty alarming, but it shows the extent some gamers and companies will go to cheat. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
That's beautiful and...AND plenty of space for more GPUs to go up on the wall.... 😍 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Seeing as AMD offers a complete vertical offering with CPU and GPUs, it makes sense even if it makes me feel a lot of icky. I suspect over time, based on how things go, Nvidia will continue to purchase more of Intel and could actually acquire a majority stake if not buy them outright at some point. This is the logical conclusion and AMD vs Nvidia is headed to final boss mode showdown. Heck, maybe Nvidia can right their CPU division down the road. Let's not forget Nvidia is an American company too as is AMD. A lot of this is on Intel.... And a lot of this is on AMD.... -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Only one way to find out @tps3443. Give it a whirl. If it works, that would rock as you could run the gigachad! ---- Gigabyte Windforce 5090 on sale at MC atm for $1999.99. I know my local MC has 5 in stock. Best Buy had a small drop of 5090 TUFs for $1999.99 drop today. They're all sold out in my region though. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
As predicted by mid Sept at the latest, price drops bottomed out on the 5090 (don't say I didn't tell ya a month or so ago), and now stock is slowly drying up on several models and prices are slowly trending back up on several models especially with MSI cards where they are also out of stock across many models everywhere on several models including the Vanguard which has gone back up from $2499 to $2599/$2669. Even the Ventus is back up to $2399.99. On the plus side, Asus Astral has dropped to $3199.99 (yay?) at Da Egg and Amazon atm.... 9070xt's continue to come down in price and a few models are back to their MSRP including the Taichi 9070xt at Microcenter for $729.99. With MCC discount, $693.50. I might snag one of these as they have the most robust build yet again this time around for my Jonsbo Z20 fun times and my sff testing is rocking a dirt cheap, open box Cool Master 850 SFX w/ 12vhpwr connector. ------------------------------------------------- Glad to see you check in @Rage Set! Hope everything is going well in life and yeah 5090s and 4090s even are still commanding a pretty penny. As stated above, prices are slowly trending back up on 5090s in the retail channel along with stock dropping. I'm seeing a lot of out of stock on many 5090 models at Newegg and Microcenter now where a month ago almost all of the models were in stock everywhere. ------------------------------------------------------- Funny to see China sour on Nvidia a bit lately especially with all the improper channels to get cards into the country at better prices. As long as they can memory mod the 4090s and 5090s in tandem with the cost for a 6000D, Nvidia will win out in the end either way. They can just slow production and redirect dies elsewhere as needed. Two points here. #1. The Japanese Yen is very weak atm so I would expect higher costs. #2. Making a better / more robust version of something doesn't mean the original isn't still competent. Look at the tiers of PSUs when Gold is more than enough in the face of Platinum and Titanium. Look at their tiers of GPUs all with the same die in there and the price variance based on the surrounding components. This is no different. On the other hand, this is Asus...... 🤣 All you have to do is use DLSS and FG..... (massive eye roll here) but in all seriousness, this is how it goes (sans poor coding/optimizations). Devs push the boundaries in upper end settings. Modern cards struggle to run it as is pushing high end settings (4k, High/Ultra settings, etc...). As time passes, what was once nearly impossible to run will eventually run with ease as hardware advances over X amount of years I like to call this the 'Crysis Paradox' 🤑 ----------------------- At this rate, you're going to be in competition with @Papusan for collecting and benching older cards! Do either of you have a dedicated wall kind of like JayZ2C has for his EVGA card collection for your collections?