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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Looking at the Steam July survey data, Windows 11 absolutely dominates Windows 10 ~60% to ~35% 16GB wins with ~42% but 32GB is gaining speed with ~35% 6 and 8 core CPUs dominate the chart with ~29% and ~25% respectively As for GPUs.... The only other desktop GPU that comes close to the 4.44% of the 3060 (which went UP +0.02%) is the 4060 with 4.20%. 9070 and 9070xt have yet to gain enough traction to not be classified as "other" Highest rated discrete AMD GPU? 6600 with 0.88%...... 🫢 Intel ARC finally getting its own listing at a whopping 0.25% but zero discrete variants.... Meanwhile 5070 (1.28%), 5080 (0.62%), 5070ti (0.60%), 5060 (0.57%), 5060ti (0.56%) and 5090 (0.21%), have all made enough penetration on Steam to have their own percentage listings with the 5070 dominating every other GPU in the 5000 class. ------------------------------- I spent the last several days running tests between the 5080 and 9070xt and with the newest drivers on both, I'm switching back to Nvidia. The newest Nvidia drivers are much smoother, getting better fps and fixed the sporadic RT issues. A lot of that lower threshold chunk is gone so I'm sticking with the 5080 for now. $825 was a KILLER price with a bang for buck that crushes everything in sight including 5080/5090FE pricing and being able to run the Astral 450w vBIOS makes up for the 5080FE Fail not being able to cross flash vBIOSes on the FE cards. The transition in motion. MSI 5080 to my system and now my 9070xt to my wife's to replace her 5070FE and the 5070FE goes back to BB tomorrow. She also gets a clean install and recert on her components. With the 9070xt, her display will spend its time locked at its max 165hz 1440p in WoW. I'll turn RT off to basically leave her running silky smooth everywhere capped out. I was going to upgrade her PSU, but I forgot I had put a Seasonic 1000w in there a few years ago.... 9070xt will be running on the wife's tuned SP109 14900KS @ 59/45/50 on air as always. Chip is a beast and running just as well as it did when I picked it up over a year ago tuned properly for AIO duty. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Was fortunate enough to pick up a used MSI Shadow 3x OC 5080 for $825 shipped. Currently running the Asus 5080 Astral vBIOS. Zero coil whine again. I'm seriously starting to think it is the triplite + 1600w EVGA I installed at the same time in August 2022 that is helping out more than I realize. The odds of scoring ~12 GPUs in a row both AMD and Nvidia tested with various MBs and CPUs in the mix all producing low to no coil whine can't be a massive streak of luck. 🤔 It's pulling more and scoring more in WoW and fps have gone up by ~17% in my testing spot (that's good for anything not a 5090) vs 5080FE at launch: 5080 FE at 99% 4k Ultra max scoring ~122fps stock launch drivers: MSI 5080 Shadow 3x OC running Astral 450w vBIOS stock 577 drivers scoring 143fps: Driver refinements also adding in too. I could always install launch drivers and see how they compare to really differentiate the two. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
3090 vs 4090 vs 5090.... that 3090->4090 uplift was crazy but 5090 is still good too.... @Talon Jarrod really loves the Acer Predator Helios 16S 275hx + 5070ti ...... 🤣 5070ti is capped to 115w as is the CPU to ~95w and a 230w PSU tops comes with it. It scores lower across the board vs similar, bigger, stronger versions of that same combo. Curious to see what the 5060 version has in it and what it is capped to on the GPU when it finally arrives. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Happy anniversary @Papusan! You are right, time does fly by. 35 years is a wonderful milestone! Slow down and smell the roses and enjoy every day with your loved ones. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
This is exactly what I was implying/asking in one of my posts. What changed? It went from serious restrictions to a personal meeting with Jensen at the white house to even less restrictions on Nvidia than even the Biden era and trump literally singing Jensen's praises at an AI summit. What changed? -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Agreed, MSI 4k panel just ended it for me along with apparently a poor panel overall. The IPS panel on their lesser model seems to be better. The $5k sticker price also is a deal breaker and like he found out in the review, the fans can have a mind of their own and are aggressive. ECO Mode helps a bit though. In the overall scheme of things, we're talking not much of a difference between the 4090 and 5090 mobile when the CPUs are allowing a last gen GPU to catch up and make it a wash with a current gen GPU. Hopefully the OC options on the Alienware will be decent or at least enable XTU. I agree. I still very much like Jarrod's reviews and he's my go to for laptop reviews now hands down. It was just that instance of most likely OEM/Intel pressure or restrictions causing him to eliminate any 7945HX3D gaming results in his comparisons because he did include 7945HX3D results in his other graphs just not gaming. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
X3D laptop dominance overall on average at 1600p: When you have the 7945HX3D + 4090 basically matching non X3D + 5090 laptops in gaming and then winning 1% lows against all of them accept the 9955HX3D + 5090 model. Again, it makes sense why Jarrod conveniently omitted 7945HX3D results numerous times when testing the 5090 models for gaming benchmarks. I asked a few times why with no response....I lost a lot of respect for him about that. He's right about the keyboard on MSI's though. Steelseries is average at best. I greatly preferred the NH55 keyboard and the Alienware keyboard Then again, I think Apple's Macbook Pro Mx 16 series of keyboards are garbage too. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I'll take a look later when I get a chance to really play with it hopefully sooner than later. Not really sure it needs any type of repaste atm but we will see. For example, just recently had the chance to meaningfully put the Raider through the ringer from top to bottom with the new July BIOS and newest MSI Center to get the fans under better control but it may need a repaste/PTM because the CPU runs pretty toasty. On the other hand, this Alienware is running ice cold in comparison. Even in full overdrive mode pulling as much as it wants, it caps out at ~170w, temps cap out at 68 and it scores 38368. Compare that to the Raider w/ a 285k out of the box needing some love. Overheating like crazy, pulling 200w+ and only scoring ~35k in R23. Could be cooling, TIM and a bit of silicon lottery at play on my end. Timespy balanced with fans not even really reving up CPU topped out at 80 pulling ~102w and GPU topped out at 62c pulling 175w. Real test is when I settle in for an extended session of WoW and FO76 where I expect the Raider to beat it clearly in WoW and flat out trounce it in FO76 because of X3D and FO76 ideal combo is X3D + Nvidia. I would need overheating/high temps to even want to repaste with the temps I'm getting. Running in balanced and gaming, I am just gobsmacked at how quiet it is even with the 5070ti pulling 175w. Just seems odd that before recently meeting with trump, trump wanted to break up Nvidia, enforce pre-existing restrictions from the previous admin (which was an addition to his term one restrtictions) and add more down the line. But after the meeting? Singing his praises, lifted pre-existing H20 AI restrictions and is buddy buddy with him including at a recent AI summit....why is that? So which is it right now in this scenario? Is Jensen the problem? trump the problem? both? Maybe a bit too much anti-china sentiment? It isn't logical or objective thinking to think you can just shut down a country economically with a blunt instrument like China which is massive. Looking at Jensen's background, he barely spent any meaningful time in Taiwan before moving out of the country with his family as a child. I wouldn't attack him on his upbringing or origins, but corporate greed? That's fair game. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Looking around this Alienware's BIOS and it looks like it has some overclocking functionality. I flipped the switch to see if it was enabled and it is so that's the next fun time seeing how stupidly cool this CPU runs even in overdrive mode. Dial in the CPU and AB and see where this modest 5070ti (aka 4080) can go. No option to disable BIOS updates (just option to disable downgrades), so for now I'll have to put a stop to that through update settings. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I've been dual booting for years now with originally RH and then mint and using Kali as needed for work. I prefer a pure Windows environment when needed and a pure linux environment as needed but I can see also using Linux primarily and Windoze in a VM too. Point is to use Linux whenever possible IMHO and WIndows whenever necessary. -
I agree. I had their old chunky black models years ago and tablet mode was the way to go with Windows 8. I then tried a Surface Pro 7 back on 2020 and it was better but still nowhere near the seamless perfected iOS (now iPadOS) at the time. So five years pass and I'm test driving the Surface 12 2025 and first thing I look for is its "tablet mode" and it's not there so now it just feels like an odd Windows laptop that can't run a crapton of software out there. On it's own, it is just like I said "clunky"
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Good 9955HX3D vs 275HX shootout. As expected, X3D is a beast. Figures considering 7945HX3D w/ 4090 is beating 5090 equipped systems in gaming benchmarks on the regular to the point Notebookreview AND Jarrod conveniently omitted the results from their 275hx 5090 initial reviews. Jarrod has done it multiple times now. I'm sure they'll be back for his 9955HX3D reviews 🙄 Their 275HX is getting 39603 at ~210w in CB23 but those are some great temps at 78c. @win32asmguy what are you getting in R23? -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Intel needs something for a 2025 refresh...... On the other hand, this is classic Intel seeing as the 12900KS, 13900KS and 14900KS were all just binned chips with slightly higher clocks.... Might as well call this Ultra 9 285KS Edition.... @tps3443 was thinking of shunt modding his Acer Predator 4090 18" Maybe this will push him over the edge to truly unleash the beast to see where it lands in comparison? -
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Alienware pulling 175w on 5070ti GPU in Balanced mode: Alienware pulling ~170w CPU in Overdrive mode: -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yeah I watched this last night. I absolutely refuse to use Armory Crate. Last time was on the wife's system and pure laziness setting it up decided to give it another chance. She kept getting stutters and freezing in games and random BSODs. It was a clean install and the only difference was Armory Crate. I removed it and everything went back to working like normal. I installed it again as a test and the crashing and game issues returned. This was with as minimal of an install as I could get on there for RGB controls. I ended up just nuking the whole thing again and used SignalRGB and smooth sailing since. You definitely need AWCC to control the power modes. Balanced is king. CPU is almost to max and the 5070ti pulls 175w. I didn't even know a 5070ti could be rated this high. I thought it was 140w. In Overdrive mode the CPU pulls 170w+ and the GPU drops down to 140w. Everything just stays so cool. Hardware wise, Dell knocked it out the park this time but I agree with the forced updates. I'll have to check to see if there is an option in BIOS to disable BIOS updates. The redesigned AWCC isn't that mad or intrusive. What is intrusive is all the other Dell custom software crammed on there as always. The 5070ti in there performs like a 4080 mobile even down to the benchmarks. I used an Asus Strix 18 with a 13980hx in it and a 4080 before so performance is good. It can't touch the MSI A18 Raider's 23k+ 4090 Timespy with it's 18k+, but still gets it done. I wish they offered an 18" version of the Hydroc. I see it will have a 9955HX3D option soon which is nice! I expect the 9955HX3D to come in like the 7945HX3D and rule the roost..... 9955HX vs 275HX is a wash. Both are fantastic mobile chips: