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Same happened to me when I put up a few looking for hardware posts over there. Same MO. They create accounts (or use pre-existing) always having "a friend" that happens to have exactly what you're looking for and to email them. I just ignore them. Agreed. I went and checked the top 30 and our friend @johnksss is #8 with his Astral, dayum! @tps3443 has to bust out the chiller to really let that 5090FE sing at least for a bit! From the jump, 5090FE was on my top 3 list for the price and aesthetics/engineering. I know many crap all over it, but it is gorgeous. Same goes for the 4090FE. That was a thick slab of beauty. 5080FE was gobsmackingly beautiful in person and the 5070FE is a smaller version of its beauty. I just wish the logo lit up like the 5080 and 5090 versions. I ended up putting the 5070 FE in my wife's system replacing her 3080. It is a definite upgrade. I have it overclocked and it's running around 3200mhz pulling so much less, much quieter, running faster.

Looking good bro! Time to dust off the chiller to really let it fly and see where it takes you! I did say weeks or months ago with the 5090 when all is said and done, all roads lead to Rome. 🫡

Are we going to have this argument again about overclocked vs stock not being applicable??!! 🤣 Is it gonna be 2080ti vs 3090 all over again for us? 🤣 Looking forward to the benches though. 🙂

As reported, Nvidia this generation really is pulling an Intel. Basically zero IPC gains vs Ada and I suspect if retro compared to Ada it would be the same too or close too it. Just a bunch of surrounding technologies added and/or enhanced (IE DLSS, FG, AI, etc...). The big gains from 3000 to 4000 was the node shrink allowing packing more cuda's in there and frequency increase. Then we have AMD quietly making serious inroads in IPC both raster and ray tracing with the 9000 setting the stage for next gen. Nvidia vs AMD architecture improvements last vs current gen: GPU IPC Showdown: NVIDIA Blackwell vs Ada Lovelace; AMD RDNA 4 vs RDNA 3 | TechPowerUp Next gen AMD UDNA shaping up quite nicely: HUGE gains expected from AMD UDNA GPU architecture - OC3D AMD has also massively improved their FSR/FG each generation too and of course they're all in on AI (insert "A" "EYE" roll here) You also have them locking down Sony and M$ for future consoles along with making serious inroads market wise with the 9000 series across the board. Nintendo is, of course, all in with Nvidia.... This feels a bit like AMD vs Intel all over again...... Nvidia better be innovating their asses off for 6000 series because the 5090 is a power sucking, monolithic monstrosity last gasp on this node to retain superiority overall especially if AMD drops a 9080xt/9090xt drawing equal with the 5080.... We still have Intel with the B580 keeping the sub $250 sector honest. One reason I think Nvidia is dropping a 5050 this time around.... That's fair. Let me know how much you're asking for it. Probably too much to make it worth my while to pick up yours and return the Gaming (or put it in the wife's system and return the 5070) but you never know. Nice pics! Now let's see some benchmarks.... 6000 vs 5090 FE. Seeing 13% uplift at 4k on some games. Someone needs to shunt mod and ghetto WB cool this thing ASAP just for superiority fun:

Well let's get it rockin' and rollin' Elvis! 🤣 Phase 2 tomorrow! Time for some benchmarkin' bro! Time to stretch her legs.... Awwww, back to Nvidia only again? 🙂 Problem with Gigabyte cards (the blessing and the curse) is they come right out of the box firing on all cylinders. Elite has a bigger heatsink than the Gaming which is actually one of the smallest 9070xt's on the market. You repadded and repasted it but it still runs toasty? Pics and lighting are very nice. Feels likes a scene out of Sin City or 300. If I hadn't picked up a set of those 8400 sticks you recommended, I would be all over the 2x24GB sticks. That is good pricing on all three sets. They won't last long.

Yeah go for soft tubing for testing/validation and once you're happy with everything then do a couple hardline runs.

I had posited months ago that one big fear was an XOC Bios that required a hardware checksum of sort for verification and it looks like so far our worst fears are potentially realized. The ultimate insult would be their cards requiring an proprietary attached dongle or hardware device of some sort to be able to flash it successfully that can then be removed afterward. That would be game over for it ever making it into the wild unlike previous cards along with custom flashed cards only being distributed from the AIBs to the master overclockers (tongue in cheek) to then flex with as they climb the charts. Luckily shunting still works but I fear the day they eventually find a way to shut that down too.

Same for Birkin Bags and other highly sought after items for the rich and stupid in those circles. You have to buy and/or be a regular customer for high end boutiques/dealerships buying expensive stuff on the regular to even make a lwait list to have the "privilege" of buying one of their overpriced exclusive items. Imagine if Nvidia had such a program where you could queue up for their most sought after products and perhaps played favoritism to previous buyers of their products especially high end... 🤔 In Nvidia's (not AIB's) defense, their pricing was announced in January and has stayed the same since January so kudos to Nvidia on that part. Also kudos to Nvidia for keeping the 5070FE and 5080FE pricing the same as last gen's counterparts in the face of inflation and still giving a touch of a performance bump on top of it. Thumbs down on 5090 pricing starting with the FE. 5090 should have been ~$1799.99 this time around for an FE at most but at this point it is what it is and at least they didn't jack the prices up while AIBs did. Also thumbs down for mediocre generation to generation uplift on all their cards below the xx90. If I was @Papusan I would have sold it, but he values his collection of GPUs and in that case the HOF 4090 is a definite showpiece. We're waiting on YOU bro! Let's get it crackin'! 🤣 You really have to test yourself these days especially if it is a game you're intimately familiar with but it works best if you have both GPUs on hand to test everything as even and controlled as possible. One problem I have with Techtubers and some credible sites is posting historical data compared to newer benchmarks when retesting should be done each and every time. Too many variables at play that can skew the data.

Makes no difference. It's like offering a super expensive sports car for $250k and limiting or cutting production when sales slow down. If there is no audience for it at that price since those with more $$$ than sense bought the ones they wanted already, they will languish and eventually be marked down while still retaining a smaller profit margin. You also have to factor in defective chips that can only work for 5090/5090DD or below. AI market is a non starter for them in the current mold. It's not like those lower yields are going anywhere else except maybe even lower yields that will go to 5080ti class cards. There's a reason prices came down quicker in the non US markets and now the US market pricing is coming down along with a sudden rash of open box GPUs. Chalk those up to resellers stockpiling returns to focus on the higher end new sales before (and now trying to move those open box items to buyers who perceive themselves getting a "better" price) and/or a rash of returns because common sense kicked in along with scalpers realizing the party is over for the most part. Like I said, even open box pricing was cut even further in several models than the initial open box pricing. In the end, either AIBs will lower their prices and accept smaller profit margins or sit on inventory. And do not confuse AIBs with Nvidia who has never raised the price on their FE cards through all the supply issues and tariffs uncertainties and they continue to sell out at that price across the 5070, 5080 and 5090. -------------- AMD has repeatedly reported surprise at how well their 9070xt and 9070 have sold but they, too, will eventually come down in price closer to MSRP. I don't think we'll ever see launch pricing again from either company, but prices will trend down based on buyer demand at certain price points. MSRP vs MSRP, 9070xt is a banger, period. Once you start throwing in AIB pricing, gouging and more the whole picture gets cloudy\ but look at any cost per frame analysis at MSRP and there's a reason the 9070xt places so high. For someone who plays World of Warcraft, I'd recommend the 9070xt over the 5070ti all day everyday and to a degree even the 5080. If price is no object of course you gotta go for the big dog 5090. 🙂

Every single model except the Windforce (cheapest one Gigabyte makes at $2639) is in stock along with a crapton of open box versions of numerous 5090s. Aorus Master Open box has now dropped to $2589.99 open box at Newegg from $2699.99.which is almost back to launch MSRP new of $2499.99... Windforce and Gaming open box are both $2549.99. MC is flush with 5090s..... BB basically has never gone out of stock with the Aorus white or black Master 5090.... ----------------------------------- Numerous 9070xt's are in stock and several are now "on sale" with decent price reductions Open box Taichi's went from $849 to $749 $919 XFX 9070xt on BB has basically been in stock for weeks now because that price is stupid. ------------------------------------- For quite awhile Newegg was holding the line and having several 7900xtx's priced at $999 open box / refurb but now they're all coming down in price to sub $800 including Taichi's.

No doubt the 5090 is an absolute beast depending on game/task. Just a conditional hot and heavy pricey wrecking ball.... I know I was seriously impressed in WoW compared to my 4090, 5080, and 9070xt. How does it do when you turn off dlss and fg?

It's getting close! Looking forward to results late tomorrow when I get back from a night on the town with the wife and daughter! @tps3443 tomorrow waiting for FedEx 🤣 And that is good pricing!

It doesn't change anything. You are not going to compel those who do not want to spend $2.6k+ for a GPU to spend it just because the prices won't come down to sanity. If the end game is AIBs slow production for the USA to keep prices inflated, so be it but it doesn't change the basic laws of price driven demand. There's a disconnect somewhere when Astrals are continuing to come into stock into retailers but not the Asus store. Even BB gets them on the regular and many MC's are sitting on them (and just about every other AIB model). I was reading up on this earlier. Intel w/ 16 P-cores and 32 E-cores? Yes please. I didn't even bother using schedulers. Literally less than two minutes on boot to just turn off the non 3D CCD in BIOS and reap the benefits of the binned 3D CCD. Game all I wanted then turn the other back on as needed. Was the price always $769.99? Because that is what it is now which isn't great when $729.99 Gaming OC's come into stock somewhat regularly on BB and $699 Steel Legends pop up on MC.

Hmmm, I mean it's free to me so I'll definitely give it a fair and proper look, but your experience does not bode well. I've tested numerous Acer units and actually liked them very much but the last one (Nitro V ANV15-41-R2Y3 ) I tested last year was not good at all in every way and I felt like their build quality, component choice and cooling noise had slipped considerably. They were charging too much and cutting too many corners. It was also the first time using an Acer out of the box that was loaded down with bloatware where in the past I was used to a minimal amount.

A forced shortage won't make a difference if no one wants to pay the prices. On the other hand, Nvidia is having no problems selling their FE editions for $2k. They are constantly sold out so there is a price point that is clearly viable at this moment. What this will tell AIBs is to adjust down their margins from the cash grab they enjoyed the last 5 months to head back to their original launch MSRPs or close enough. Somewhere a price point will be established where consumers will purchase 5090s but now that the initial wave of "price be damned" buyers is sated, we will see where that lands.