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Excessive coil whine is an instant return/sell off no matter the card. Remember when 3090s were so hard to get on launch and I scored that 3090FE from BB? It was good for about a month then suddenly developed the most insane coil whine I've ever heard. I sold it off near cost just to get it out of my face and limped along with a 3060 for months till I got my 3090KPE. That is how much I can't do excessive coil whine..... I would probably take that EVGA P+ 1300 outside and go Office Space on it like it was a copier...... 🤣

That's a good idea using that invoice for warranty work unless the original buyer registered it already..... Newegg has bundle deals for the "limited edition" Asus Matrix 5090 if you want to continue spending that stupid money ranging from ~4900 to ~6100 before tax.... https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=601469153 100007709 8000 50001315&d=5090+matrix&Order=2 Scary thing is this is MSRP..... Rev three needs a locking fold over clamp that can't move over time or a complete redesign would be even better.... X3D is the magic sauce especially at lower resolutions and on laptops where memory is so gimped. It is even worse in Fallout 76. I tested an open box Asus 16" with a 9955X3D and 5070ti against my Alienware at QHD and even with a 5070ti it just stomped that 275hx into the ground on laptops vs the 275hx. It isn't even fair. You are absolutely right. On Desktop with tuned clocks and especially memory, WoW on Arrowlake, especially at 4k, is a smooth ride. I'm expecting Nova Lake to couple Intel's overall superiority with finally admitting a big cache makes a huge difference. I haven't been this excited for a new architecture since Alderlake. If Intel REALLY wants to make us happy, offer a special edition 8, 10 or 12 P core only monolithic variant of Nova with that monster cache and watch gamers flock back to Intel in droves. I've been using 4.11. Definitely re creating with 4.14.... It shouldn't be this hard and seems a tad morally sus to keep pounding useless features (aka data collection and more) down our throats when we simply want the option to NOT want it and categorize it properly as "optional" and not have to use it. Forced account creation Tying One Drive more and more to the ecosystem Store features rammed down our throats data collection everywhere "Cloud everywhere!" AI propagation everywhere.... I want Windows to be Windows 7 levels of tied to M$ and that's it. I'd prefer XP levels, but I'll compromise at 7. You are an OS first and foremost, be one. My M$ account was recently reset due to suspicious behavior. 2FA was the wall they slammed up against in the end. Easy enough to recover, but this is why I have nothing and I do mean NOTHING tied to my M$ account and nothing of importance ever gets done through Edge, ever. If someone was actually able to login and gain access to it even briefly, I know their initial elation was immediately followed by groans of disappointment in the barren ghost town that are my online repositories. Most of my family and friends are fully doubled down in the M$ cloud and One Drive, but I jettisoned that eons ago when Windows Phone died a painful death and I went back to iPhone. You'll be back soon enough..... 🙂

Best possible outcome. Feels like when my EVGA 1600w P2 started to falter a few months ago and I couldn't lock down where the failures or sporadic errors were coming from and had to start from the ground up to isolate the PSU. The cables really are the weakest link this time around. I know with my 4090 and 5090 I kept the pigtail plugged in at all times even when swapping out. Many times for motherboard upgrades I would remove the GPU from the slot and lay it still connected on the lower part of the case. Could have been just the absolute pounding you gave that cable and the limited times you have to plug and unplug it before it starts to degrade.....which is insane to think on a cable meant to handle 600w+..... Gigabyte Gaming OC cards in general are not built that great. Master and Elite cards get the love. Glad you're back up and running! Let us know which one is the superior GPU. I'm curious to see vmax, best OC, best UV and overall temps head to head. The only real way to do it now is to use the dreaded tentacle for a few reasons to bench multiple cards: #1. You can keep the 12vfail connector connected at all times #2. It makes it easy to bench and test traditional 8-pin PCIE GPUs since you have 4x 8-pin leads at your disposal.

The fact you suffered several small strokes and escaped relatively unscathed is such a blessing. Your body is telling you to get that stress and blood pressure under control ASAP. Even if your BP runs high the medicines will greatly slow stiffening of the arteries and sudden spikes. That is the real magic of them for potential strokes and heart attacks. My mom had a small stroke at 59 because her sugars were high (A1c = 13+), cholesterol through the roof (300+) and blood pressure through the roof (190/100+) daily due to no exercise and a horrific diet along with bad medicine management and genetics. She figured she could eat whatever she wanted and just had to slam a needle full of insulin into her leg and that would do the trick. She actually went into a coma for two weeks. Testing showed she had suffered many small strokes undetected at the time. Came out scared, followed the program religiously dropped weight, got much healthier then 4 months later fell off and went back to her old habits even though was on her like cold on ice but to no avail. Gained back all the weight plus some extra. A year later she suffered a major stroke, lost all function of her left side, impaired speech and passed away a few months later. She was 60. This is the time you take control brother. Genetics are what they are, but you control how you move and what you eat. If you're a smoker, time to quit. Heavy drinker? Time to cut back. Time to get that diet under control, get your medicines sorted out and come back as @Papusan 2.0 meaner and grumpier! 🤣❤️

"Like New" Asus Z890 Maximus Hero with thermal paste everywhere and a fully bent back pin in the top right corner....smudges all over the place and the secondary heatsink has stripped screws somehow that won't allow it to be lifted off...... Well played Amazon Resale....well played..... Less than 20min after receipt drop off return set for our local Staples.... --------------------------------------------------------- Might as well take it apart and take a look then. Might be a thermal compound placement issue, stress issue or something else you can see. The fact it even lets you game for ~10 minutes is encouraging. Make sure to run individual stress tests on the VRAM and Core separately. If it is defective, hopefully it is a memory module at worse or a minor board issue. Did you at least reach back out to the seller since he's local? -------------------------------------------------------------- Looking good? I just saw 1.0.6 of the WVP2 software is available while I was giving my system the ultra clean install / updates. I do have a question, do other 5090 owners get a default driver from M$ for their 5090s? I never have for my Vanguard and can't remember if I got one for my Astral or Ventus in the past on clean install and letting Windows run its updates. It's always M$ Basic Video Adapter which works for me.

Back to the seller it goes! How did you pay for it? Zotac warranties are non-transferable last I checked so hopefully you can return it.

Managed to get the tax liability down by 40% and since the mrs's Altima literally died in the driveway I gave my Rogue to the wife to drive for work since she commutes 90 min a day. I spent a considerable amount of time shopping minivans then realized I did not want another one (this would have been my third) I picked up a shiny new (to me) Nissan Armada because I've always wanted one. Thought about the 2025+ new design and did not care for it once seeing and sitting in one vs the 2021-2024 design along with how much value it would lose driving it off the lot (one reason I usually buy ~3-4yr old cars). Found a killer price on a certified pre-owned and the wife and daughter both said, "dad, you deserve it. You're always so frugal with yourself." I think they just want to ride around in it.... Thing is huge compared to my Rogue. Feel like I'm driving my old Lincoln Navigator from 25+ years ago again.... 🤣 --------------------------------------------------------- Anyone looking to dabble in ArrowLake, Amazon had ~50 Asus z890 Maximus Hero boards "like new" for $209 + 15% off for prime members yesterday + 6% rewards = ~$188 to my door for a board that originally retailed for $700+. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DGWWRTPV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&th=1 They're currently down to 28 left in stock. You can pair this with the 270k which after the initial hype is back to realistic pricing and $319.99 on Newegg and includes a the game bundle AND an MSI 240mm AIO ($84.99 value) --------------------------------------- I was this close to making the swap to the Z890-A strix + 270k, but now I'll wait and dial in the Hero and see where it lands with the 270k and if all is right, sell off the Z890-A Strix + 265k before swapping it in to ride Arrowlake meaningfully till the fall as my main rig unless it gives me a reason ASAP to switch back to the Crosshair x870e + 9800X3D. Sounds familiar with my 34yr old daughter..... one moment no interest then suddenly they want some decent hardware and rediscover their steam library as if it were lost.... Trickle down Graphicsnomics that actually works! Pros of having a great dad/granddad at the helm @Mr. Fox! Crazy it was that close. Did he try to press for Zelle or F&F? I know he listed G&S too, but a lot of times they use that as an entry point. Then "something goes wrong" with the transaction on their end and they immediately refund you which gives you a sense of good faith and try to get you to resend it via Zelle or F&F and disappear with your funds.... Good call all around. Man, I would have LOVED to have been a fly on the wall when your wife caught wind and you almost caught hands! 🤣 Sold the Laptop for 1500, 5090 for 2350 so almost 4k in your pocket and a quarter of that lands you a nice Zotac 5080 which is a killer card on its own and 3k still in your pocket AND a happy wife? That is a win win.... My laptops at home are either for tinkering, aux usage when my desktop is down for tinkering/upgrades/needed files/ drivers or vacation. All other times, it is usually on the shelf which is 95% of the time. No way am I gaming primarily on a laptop when I can have a good desktop running. 5090 are still monsters though but the pricing now is insane....$1k 5080 slaughters it bang for buck easily. On a personal note, still amazed that WoW Midnight is giving the 5090 an actual workout with semi frequent dips into the 90+ utilization zone and the 9070xt is gasping at 100% utilization most times everywhere. This is all at 4k. I had to drop the wife's internal render back to ~1600p to get the 9070xt to spit out decent fps at 4k. You ended up with a fantastic scenario. Early verification purchase from Nvidia, used it for over a year and got back everything from it. Could you have maybe sold it for more? Sure, but sometimes you count your blessings and keep it moving. I'd like to think a lucky user is using it right now in their loop, but I have this sneaky suspicion that small PCB was torn asunder as they ripped the core and memory off and slapped it on a blower compliant PCB and it is churning away in an AI shop somewhere.....

So Sorry to hear @Papusan 😞 Speedy recovery brother. Forums wouldn't be the same without you. ❤️

They keep trying.....sheesh. Glad @tps3443 didn't get zinged but $2500 for an Astral should be the first warning sign.....

Subbed...looking forward to more vids! Same ole Same ole...... Currently on the Arrow Lake fun times.... 5090 still crazy priced with lowest tiered prices starting at $3300 and up. Memory, SSDs still crazy priced. CPUs are supposedly next..... Hope all is well with you and the new business is booming!

This is my approach atm too. That SP85 270k from you is better (understatement) than my SP83 265k and runs cooler overall to boot which was a pleasant surprise considering I thought that SP83 265k ran so much cooler and better than that trash SP77 265k I sold off. I'm not sure there is much where else to go from here unless on water and/or delid at this point. I am eagerly awaiting Nova and I think I'm going to shut down any/all CPU purchases till then unless a stupidly binned 270k/285k suddenly rears its head and even then....meh. Prices are coming down fast after the initial rush. Newegg has them for $322 and that includes the game AND an Asrock  Pro 850w PSU. Microcenter has a decent bundle deal that has dropped now to $599.99 from the original $649.99 including the 270k + Gigabyte Eagle Wifi 7 Z890 MB + 2x16GB 6400 Crucial kit.

Cheapest 9070xt = 689.99 (Asrock Challenger) (MC) Cheapest 5070ti = 969.99 (Zotac Solid) (MC) ------------------------------------------------- I'm just not seeing the value in any way, shape or form with this $50 cable. I'd rather apply that towards a WVP2 and bin some cheaper cables if needed. -------------------------------------------------- I don't hate FG or DLSS if...IF it can and continues to be backported to older cards allowing those with weaker hardware to at least play modern'esque games decently. What I do not want are devs using it as the first line of fps optimization vs good ole fashion tight code. I am sure some dev studios are being, um "incentivized" to include these technologies as much as possible to slowly shift the gaming scene to make these features standard going forward and shift the narrative from raster to an amalgamation of RT/PT meets AI fueled DLSS/FG as the heavy lifter and minimize raster as much as possible as the entry point of generation and then hand it all off. ------------------------------------------------------ If you're able to eventually (I am unsure of the state of Bartlett with good Z790 boards atm) tune the snot out of the 273PQE like a 14900KS, that would seem to be the way to go for many reasons. if not for peak 14th gen chip. How did the 270k binning go and where did you end up chip quality wise?

Glad to know the GPU side is very well designed, but.... Ugh, skimping on the PSU side on a $50 cable.... As we move on, unless something changes I can see OCP PSUs being the future across the board as a standard feature on all high tier PSUs. Now we have this to bounce off of @de8auer's incoming break down and analysis of the cable too.... ----------------- Sugi finally went full chiller hybrid setup. I like how the rad / chiller are in their own separate place aka balcony.....

It was tripping the WVP2 and all three samples had a bad balance on at least one pin. He is going to do a deeper dive in the next one, but on the surface I'm not seeing the value except out of the ultra stiff connector and no bend till after the Asus choke. Definitely not worth $50 atm.... (if ever)

A valid comparison would me 9700x vs 9800X3D to really see what X3D brings to the table. I do know in FO76 the 9800X3D toasted the 9600x I tested worse than the 14900KS so X3D is magic sauce for some games. Still haven't had time to work with the 270k I picked up from @Talon but I'll get to it soon. The testing I did on the 265k and 5090 was so smooth closer to 13th/14th gen. At 4k the lows are, as always, equal or better than X3D. That has always remained consistent in WoW but not Fallout 76. My wife took my Alienware 4k OLED as an upgrade from her 1440p Asus IPS and I started using a new 3rd gen Asus flat matte OLED which I prefer over glossy curved (she actually prefers curved). So having been running WoW at 4k on both, even with details dialed down the 9070xt is almost constantly pegged at 99-100% everywhere in WoW but what I do notice also is the 5090 spends a lot of time well above 80% utilization and many times close to 90% so WoW is definitely giving it a workout on the level that would make a 4090 or below GPU bound at 4k in many instances. The 9950X3D2 is useless for WoW and DOA for the vast majority of price/performance tasks. $900 for 2-3% better performance on average over a 9950X3D..... At this stage of the game, 270k is the price/performance king overall and depending on games/resolution and some tuning, it is even the better pick over X3D chips for gaming (situational gaming scenarios notwithstanding of course). It isn't pretty over here..... I keep exacting YoY budgets and the cost difference from 2024 to 2026 in what I'm paying across the board is pretty telling from groceries to eating out and more. Yeah, I used PL on my 7950X3D and MSI 7955HX3D. Never heard of CPUSetSetter since I haven't been on a dual CCD in quite some time. Let's see how AM6 pans out..... Looks like Galax might be safe.....was always part of Palit since 2007... https://videocardz.com/newz/palit-releases-statement-galax-kfa2-and-hof-brands-are-to-stay