*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[ryan]

thanks for the likes mr fox and paps.

 

 

i dont think ill be getting 9k again with these temps, heard good things from @Talon about the phase change pads..hes able to max the clocks and still be in the 70s

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, ryan said:

thanks for the likes mr fox and paps.

 

 

i dont think ill be getting 9k again with these temps, heard good things from @Talon about the phase change pads..hes able to max the clocks and still be in the 70s

You're welcome. You earned them. And, who needs benchmarks when you have cheerleaders. 🤣

[ryan]

dude I forgot that pic had the raiders in the background im a big football fan. can't stand missing the action. but honestly I might need your guys help with overclocking. im an old overclocker back when things were simple, now theirs dynamic boost and temps to worry about. I just want to recreate the 9200 in timespy or even better top it. Im pretty sure the people scoring 10k are using 130w parts vs my 115w part but 9200 should be possible again as I recall i was averaging exactly 60fps in crysis maxed at 1080p and 30fps at 4k. which is important for my non important endeavours

[ryan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I still haven't forgiven myself for that and I am not enthusiastic about repeating that mistake. 4090 performance is compelling, but the pricing is as repulsive as it was with 3090. While I believe the 3090 KPE is a fantastic overbuilt GPU, I still regret paying what I did for it and still kind of feel like I got screwed over. I am somewhat disappointed with it and have been since the day it arrived. I do not find it remarkably better than an 3090 FTW3 in terms of performance. The only thing about it that I consider "great" is that it is an EVGA product and backed by their industry-leading service and support.

 

What makes it worse now is that a plain vanilla cracker jack 4090 (sold by a company that I know will be a huge pain in the butt to deal with if I need warranty support) is priced like it is a Kingpin-level halo product. 

It is sad how seldom anyone leaves feedback for me on eBay. I go out of my way to communicate with them, ship immediately, provide additional information to them about the product after the sale, and give the buyer good feedback. I hear nothing more. I have pinged them numerous times with a message to ask if they received the product and everything was as expected, and they will often reply that they are very happy and thank me, but still leave no feedback.

 

I generally only use eBay as a last resort when my efforts to sell something have failed in another venue. I was going to look at selling on jawa.gg for PC parts, but when I went to sign up it seemed like a real hassle, so I never finished the sign-up process.

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Pretty chintzy MSI GPU...

 

holy smokes this guy is thorough. I have never seen someone do this and now i have mad respect. how on earth did you find this video

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

dude I forgot that pic had the raiders in the background im a big football fan. can't stand missing the action. but honestly I might need your guys help with overclocking. im an old overclocker back when things were simple, now theirs dynamic boost and temps to worry about. I just want to recreate the 9200 in timespy or even better top it. Im pretty sure the people scoring 10k are using 130w parts vs my 115w part but 9200 should be possible again as I recall i was averaging exactly 60fps in crysis maxed at 1080p and 30fps at 4k. which is important for my non important endeavours

Since you are in Canada and it is cold outside, set your max overclock and max out the fans and bench it outside. I bet you will break 9K. The GPU is going to be thermally limited long before it actually ever gets hot. Even the high end desktop GPUs suffer from this idiotic and sucky firmware algorithm. The colder you can get that GPU the higher it is going to boost using the applied overclock offset.

13 minutes ago, ryan said:

holy smokes this guy is thorough. I have never seen someone do this and now i have mad respect. how on earth did you find this video

I post his videos often in this thread. He is really amazing. Check out the other videos on his YouTube channel. Since I subscribe to his channel I see his new videos the day they are posted.

 

I had him replace a bad memory chip on the 2080 Ti FTW3 that I recently sold. He was fast and very reasonable on the pricing. He is near Seattle, WA.

[ryan]

I will try it outside as long as It wont blow up lol....pretty cold here in alberta. 3 days ago we had a wind chill of -50c/paps cant touch that. or can he. yeah as for the video I was impressed very well done. seattle isnt far away if I have issues with anything I would love to get him as a vendor.

 

if my gpu is hovering around 80c to 70c why is it the same at 90c? shouldnt it boost higher, whats the sweet spot -90

[Raiderman]

16 minutes ago, ryan said:

I will try it outside as long as It wont blow up lol....pretty cold here in alberta. 3 days ago we had a wind chill of -50c/paps cant touch that. or can he. yeah as for the video I was impressed very well done. seattle isnt far away if I have issues with anything I would love to get him as a vendor.

 

if my gpu is hovering around 80c to 70c why is it the same at 90c? shouldnt it boost higher, whats the sweet spot -90

You dont even really need to go outside. I live in Idaho, and I would open the window, and have a fan sucking in the cold air from outside. I would just close the door to my office, and let the temp drop.

If you have a garage or shop, that might be a good way to go also. 😄

[ryan]

I dont have a shop just an apartment. but I opened the window and its pretty cold 15c and the temps dont seem to be affected. I will move it closer to the window but I cant see getting 9200 and I dont see the point if I have to freeze my ass off to attain it.

[Raiderman]

10 minutes ago, ryan said:

I dont have a shop just an apartment. but I opened the window and its pretty cold 15c and the temps dont seem to be affected. I will move it closer to the window but I cant see getting 9200 and I dont see the point if I have to freeze my ass off to attain it.

We live north from most people, so taking advantage when its cold is a good thing. Make sure the side is off of your case to allow a good amount of air flow in. I could get ~10c drop in gpu  temps doing it this way. If you can get the temps down, you should be able to raise clock and voltage to a point where you couldnt before.

[ryan]

thanks for that im topping 8600 gpu with windows open and laptop close by. im not sure what to do more this side of liquid nitrogen

[Papusan]

 

9 hours ago, ryan said:

if my gpu is hovering around 80c to 70c why is it the same at 90c? shouldnt it boost higher, whats the sweet spot -90

Sweet spot... Around 40C. Imagine we had the same idiocy tech with newer processors😀 Intel was damn close with 8ht gen ulocked BGA where max boost clocks started drop around 55C.

NVIDIA Boost behavior for 30 series cards, seems like RETARDED!!!! 

 

Edit. Look at the stupidity....

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080/29.html

13 hours ago, electrosoft said:

As for "sheeple" 😅 let us not forget many of us dropped $2k on 3090s and I initially dropped 2.5k on a 3090ti (lucky to have gotten back everything back paid in though with EVGA refund and keeping my 1600w P2 PSU). I suspect many of us would have lined up for a KPE 4090 too.....

This is the custom cards model. What nvidia have done now is to increase MSRP for the absolute cheapes cards (FE). 

 

There is different types "sheeple". Pay +1200$ for a card that should be priced at max $800 is somewhat different. 

 

Edit.
Intel shelves Raja Koduri, out of the GPU unit, back to Chief Architect position

Intel has announced that its former boss of the AXG graphics division will be shelved, moving back to his previous role as Intel Chief Architect... a sign that the GPU division of Intel is in serious trouble.

 

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I will let it run for an hour more, then call it a day. My son has already gamed on the machine a couple of days without a hiccup so I think its all good. Passed also TM5.

 

[Etern4l]

Arguably the rational policy would be to defer any $1k+ GPU purchase for now (limited supply + peak demand), unless there is actually a hard requirement behind it, if only to take a stand and send a message to those exploitative manufacturers. 

Unfortunately, rather than being rational (as some old and naive economic theories used to assume), people tend to be impulse buyers, addiction to new tech is real, as is the herd instinct which prompts people to follow the "upgrade leaders" for fear of missing out. Plus, let's face it: for many people $2k is hardly a prohibitive sum, especially compared to the cost of housing or even cars, and consequently the requisite cash is in many cases basically lying around waiting for NVidia to grab. Additionally, it's easy to rationalize the cost away by comparing it to irrelevant reference points such as last year's crypto boom prices ($2k for a 4090 is only a great deal if you have a time machine which you can use to take the device back to 2021 and sell it for $4k), or by factoring in meaningless in this context generic inflation numbers. NVidia knows all this very well, they don't make those pricing decisions on a whim, but based on a wealth of historical data regarding consumer behaviour. Unlike the consumers, they are very rational and are just ruthlessly using the data and their dominant position to optimally exploit the by and large helpless market.

[Mr. Fox]

8 hours ago, Etern4l said:

Arguably the rational policy would be to defer any $1k+ GPU purchase for now (limited supply + peak demand), unless there is actually a hard requirement behind it, if only to take a stand and send a message to those exploitative manufacturers. 

Unfortunately, rather than being rational (as some old and naive economic theories used to assume), people tend to be impulse buyers, addiction to new tech is real, as is the herd instinct which prompts people to follow the "upgrade leaders" for fear of missing out. Plus, let's face it: for many people $2k is hardly a prohibitive sum, especially compared to the cost of housing or even cars, and consequently the requisite cash is in many cases basically lying around waiting for NVidia to grab. Additionally, it's easy to rationalize the cost away by comparing it to irrelevant reference points such as last year's crypto boom prices ($2k for a 4090 is only a great deal if you have a time machine which you can use to take the device back to 2021 and sell it for $4k), or by factoring in meaningless in this context generic inflation numbers. NVidia knows all this very well, they don't make those pricing decisions on a whim, but based on a wealth of historical data regarding consumer behaviour. Unlike the consumers, they are very rational and are just ruthlessly using the data and their dominant position to optimally exploit the by and large helpless market.

Most people make irrational decisions involving money because our priorities get all jacked up. We are all guilty of it to some extent. Some struggle with it more than others. NVIDIA and the other jokers playing in the retail space know this well and they're not bashful about exploiting that human character flaw. If we're honest, there is going to be something we find to be a nearly irresistible shiny object. Resistance requires a deliberate exercise of self-control.

[Papusan]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Most people make irrational decisions involving money because our priorities get all jacked up. We are all guilty of it to some extent. Some struggle with it more than others. NVIDIA and the other jokers playing in the retail space know this well and they're not bashful about exploiting that human character flaw. If we're honest, there is going to be something we find to be a nearly irresistible shiny object. Resistance a requires deliberate exercise of self-control.

I don't upgrade every year so I can't say I feed Nvidia with loads of money time after time again. So I'm good. 1800$ / 4 years for a 4090 is more like $450 a year. I spend more money on the rest of the PC platforms or my car each year. But I don't want to pay +-1000$ on a mid high end card. New or old doesn't matter. Thats too stupid. Either go all in for the top of the line and keep it for awhile or just see if you can find a cheap old used. Even real gamers can have fun with the not so new. This way, we would see Nvidia and AMD had to change their price policy. Low or almost no sales of products will force a change. 

[Mr. Fox]

23 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I don't upgrade every year so I can't say I feed Nvidia with loads of money time after time again. So I'm good. 1800$ / 4 years for a 4090 is more like $450 a year. I spend more money on the rest of the PC platforms or my car each year. But I don't want to pay +-1000$ on a mid high end card. New or old doesn't matter. Thats too stupid. Either go all in for the top of the line and keep it for awhile or just see if you can find a cheap old used. Even real gamers can have fun with the not so new. This way, we would see Nvidia and AMD had to change their price policy. Low or almost no sales of products will force a change. 

Agree. Personally, I think it is better to get the best or go with a lower-budget option. The stuff in the middle is kind of a disgusting compromise to me.

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Agree. Personally, I think it is better to get the best or go with a lower-budget option. The stuff in the middle is kind of a disgusting compromise to me.

Even the high end can be disgusting....

 

AMD Locked Radeon RX 7000 Series Power Play Tables, Limiting Overclocking

 

Overclocking expert @Buildzoid1 on Twitter recently shared a post discussing his frustrations with AMD's overclocking capabilities on the RX 7000 series. Apparently, AMD has locked power play table manipulation on its new GPUs, preventing enthusiasts from customizing power and frequency curves outside their official specifications.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5154651_papusan_gpupi___1b_geforce_rtx_3070_4sec_885ms

 

@Mr. FoxLOOOL 

 

 

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/222448-benchhate-pentium-gold-g7400-3700mhz-99826-cb-cinebench-r23-multi-core-with-benchmate/

[electrosoft]

10 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I still haven't forgiven myself for that and I am not enthusiastic about repeating that mistake. 4090 performance is compelling, but the pricing is as repulsive as it was with 3090. While I believe the 3090 KPE is a fantastic overbuilt GPU, I still regret paying what I did for it and still kind of feel like I got screwed over. I am somewhat disappointed with it and have been since the day it arrived. I do not find it remarkably better than an 3090 FTW3 in terms of performance. The only thing about it that I consider "great" is that it is an EVGA product and backed by their industry-leading service and support.

 

What makes it worse now is that a plain vanilla cracker jack 4090 (sold by a company that I know will be a huge pain in the butt to deal with if I need warranty support) is priced like it is a Kingpin-level halo product. 

It is sad how seldom anyone leaves feedback for me on eBay. I go out of my way to communicate with them, ship immediately, provide additional information to them about the product after the sale, and give the buyer good feedback. I hear nothing more. I have pinged them numerous times with a message to ask if they received the product and everything was as expected, and they will often reply that they are very happy and thank me, but still leave no feedback.

 

I generally only use eBay as a last resort when my efforts to sell something have failed in another venue. I was going to look at selling on jawa.gg for PC parts, but when I went to sign up it seemed like a real hassle, so I never finished the sign-up process.

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Pretty chintzy MSI GPU...

 

 

With the way Ampere and ADL is designed, the only real way to hit those next tiers is with next level cooling which is what the KPE 3090 was designed around and setting world records like the top tier HOF cards. Outside of that, meh, silicon lottery comes into play and it is what it is. 😞 If I picked up a 4090, it is going to be a $1599.99 model same as a 4080 $1199.99 model but if you're an Asus fan and want to pony up $1549 for a 4080 or $1999 for a 4090? Meh, it's your money have at it. 🙂

 

The one trend I've found in regards to feedback consistently is those who both buy and sell tend to leave feedback more often. Straight buyers view ebay like they view Amazon or Best Buy and tend to not leave feedback same as they tend to not leave reviews. It is frustrating sometimes especially if you don't sell often and your feedback can slide off the 12 month window.

 

As for eBay selling, I used to do my due diligence on local forums but the much smaller pool of buyers simply do not want to pay what most products can and do command for re-sale. Factor in ebay fees even and you can still get back more (sometimes much more) than selling on local boards. eBay having moved the entire buy/sell chain in house and extended security checks does make it a touch more safer for sellers and vastly safer for buyers but in the end outside of cash and carry, bank transfer or to a degree FnF with PP, you are still at the whim of the buyer in many cases. At least with eBay you can establish a track record of sorts in case something happens that will give individual cases more scrutiny than standard CC protection.

 

 

4 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 NVidia knows all this very well, they don't make those pricing decisions on a whim, but based on a wealth of historical data regarding consumer behaviour. Unlike the consumers, they are very rational and are just ruthlessly using the data and their dominant position to optimally exploit the by and large helpless market.

 

Very solid truth right here unfortunately.

 

[Etern4l]

7 hours ago, Papusan said:

I don't upgrade every year so I can't say I feed Nvidia with loads of money time after time again. So I'm good. 1800$ / 4 years for a 4090 is more like $450 a year. I spend more money on the rest of the PC platforms or my car each year. But I don't want to pay +-1000$ on a mid high end card. New or old doesn't matter. Thats too stupid. Either go all in for the top of the line and keep it for awhile or just see if you can find a cheap old used. Even real gamers can have fun with the not so new. This way, we would see Nvidia and AMD had to change their price policy. Low or almost no sales of products will force a change. 

 

I think it depends on the use case and the pricing. For instance, with Ampere, would it make sense for a pure gamer to get a 3090 over 3080? It used to be that the premium for the top tier model was excessive. Now, Nvidia cleverly manipulated the pricing such that the 4080 looks like a shit deal. All they really did is jacked up the price of the second-best model, actually nerfed it, and as a result they are extracting "crypto boom" money for the top tier model. Brilliant. Chances are the 4090 will get significantly cheaper as we progress through 2023, once they have harvested the premium on all the enthusiasts and early adopters. If people recognised this as an adverserial strategy by a monopolist, and actively "voted with their wallets" against such practices, the strategy would backfire, but again - apparently they know their customers well enough not to worry about this.

 

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Resistance a requires deliberate exercise of self-control.

 

Exactly. Self-evidently a rare commodity.

 

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Agree. Personally, I think it is better to get the best or go with a lower-budget option. The stuff in the middle is kind of a disgusting compromise to me.

 

It really depends on the pricing and requirements. The lower-tier stuff could be too slow in some cases, whereas the top-tier models could be an overkill. Seems hard to generalise. With ADL, NVidia made the 4090 look like the best thing since sliced bread compared to everything else, but in terms of performance/price Ampere is actually holding its own, which we know is a problem for them. If not for all the Ampere stock, they would have hiked the AL launch prices even more.

[Raiderman]

9 hours ago, Etern4l said:

Arguably the rational policy would be to defer any $1k+ GPU purchase for now (limited supply + peak demand), unless there is actually a hard requirement behind it, if only to take a stand and send a message to those exploitative manufacturers. 

Unfortunately, rather than being rational (as some old and naive economic theories used to assume), people tend to be impulse buyers, addiction to new tech is real, as is the herd instinct which prompts people to follow the "upgrade leaders" for fear of missing out. Plus, let's face it: for many people $2k is hardly a prohibitive sum, especially compared to the cost of housing or even cars, and consequently the requisite cash is in many cases basically lying around waiting for NVidia to grab. Additionally, it's easy to rationalize the cost away by comparing it to irrelevant reference points such as last year's crypto boom prices ($2k for a 4090 is only a great deal if you have a time machine which you can use to take the device back to 2021 and sell it for $4k), or by factoring in meaningless in this context generic inflation numbers. NVidia knows all this very well, they don't make those pricing decisions on a whim, but based on a wealth of historical data regarding consumer behaviour. Unlike the consumers, they are very rational and are just ruthlessly using the data and their dominant position to optimally exploit the by and large helpless market.

Ive been addicted to hardware from the day I put that NVIDIA Riva tnt, and Sound blaster expansion cards in my 1997 E-Machines budget desktop that I paid $300 bucks for at Best Buy. Boasting a mind boggling Intel Celeron 266mhz cpu, and a 15" crt monitor. When I took it to Lan parties,(yes that was a thing) the guys had to throw memory, and video cards my way so that I could play Unreal tournament....Now I think of it as more of a hobby I guess. Its better than huffing gasoline rags, or smoking crack. Choose your addiction wisely my friends 😄

[Etern4l]

2 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Ive been addicted to hardware from the day I put that NVIDIA Riva tnt, and Sound blaster expansion cards in my 1997 E-Machines budget desktop that I paid $300 bucks for at Best Buy. Boasting a mind boggling Intel Celeron 266mhz cpu, and a 15" crt monitor. When I took it to Lan parties,(yes that was a thing) the guys had to throw memory, and video cards my way so that I could play Unreal tournament....Now I think of it as more of a hobby I guess. Its better than huffing gasoline rags, or smoking crack. Choose your addiction wisely my friends 😄

 

I hear you, have been to LAN parties myself, and love PC hardware. The difference with many other hobbies I can think of is that in the other areas you are not really a slave to a single company. In contrast, we have realistic (and often slightly mind-boggling) choice in terms of any PC component but the GPU. I would push against getting fleeced on that basis.

Actually, it's not just about the exploitative pricing, it's also the artificially suppressed stock in order to get Ampere moving and at the same time support the price - this in turn fuels scalping. The only people who can teach Nvidia The Abusive Monopolist a lesson at the moment are the consumers. Unfortunately, those who are best placed to do something about it typically care the least. Do people really need to play Cyberpunk in 4K@120 right now or would 60 fps actually do for a few more months? 

[Raiderman]

40 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

I hear you, have been to LAN parties myself, and love PC hardware. The difference with many other hobbies I can think of is that in the other areas you are not really a slave to a single company. In contrast, we have realistic (and often slightly mind-boggling) choice in terms of any PC component but the GPU. I would push against getting fleeced on that basis.

Actually, it's not just about the exploitative pricing, it's also the artificially suppressed stock in order to get Ampere moving and at the same time support the price - this in turn fuels scalping. The only people who can teach Nvidia The Abusive Monopolist a lesson at the moment are the consumers. Unfortunately, those who are best placed to do something about it typically care the least. Do people really need to play Cyberpunk in 4K@120Hz right now or would 60Hz actually do for a few more months? 

I agree, having choices is a good thing. As I stated in an earlier post, choices are being removed in every aspect of our lives. We are truly living in the times of "The demolition man". Your only choices for take out are Taco Bell, beef is considered bad, and sex via a neuro link are just around the corner.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Etern4l said:

 

I hear you, have been to LAN parties myself, and love PC hardware. The difference with many other hobbies I can think of is that in the other areas you are not really a slave to a single company. In contrast, we have realistic (and often slightly mind-boggling) choice in terms of any PC component but the GPU. I would push against getting fleeced on that basis.

Actually, it's not just about the exploitative pricing, it's also the artificially suppressed stock in order to get Ampere moving and at the same time support the price - this in turn fuels scalping. The only people who can teach Nvidia The Abusive Monopolist a lesson at the moment are the consumers. Unfortunately, those who are best placed to do something about it typically care the least. Do people really need to play Cyberpunk in 4K@120Hz right now or would 60Hz actually do for a few more months? 

We (all people) tend to use the word "need" in place of "want" without giving a lot of thought to the meaning of it. Nothing wrong with wanting more or accepting only the best. There is an element of computing that typically focuses on actual needs where business is involved, and wants where a hobby is involved. Thank God for hobbies, or many of us would find life boring if not difficult. Being a PC enthusiast is not nearly as expensive as many of the other testosterone-fueled hobbies to choose from, but we do tend to shoot ourselves in the feet by throwing caution to the wind and exercising poor judgment when it involves our wants. I think there are even some PC enthusiasts that make a hobby out of spending the least amount of money they possibly can to achieve a minimum level of functionality. I can't relate to it personally, but if doing that makes them happy or gives them a sense of accomplishment, then I would call it a legit hobby.  At any rate, we are our own worst enemy when it comes to feeding the monster. To a large degree, we have only ourselves to blame for the retarded GPU prices. There was a point in time where the crypto-morons were driving it, but right now we have to look no further than the closest mirror to identify the reason.  NVIDIA can't set a bad example for AMD on how to rape consumers  with inflated prices if consumers refuse to purchase overpriced junk. Getting everyone on the same page with a mass exodus, mutiny or boycott is like herding cats. Many are too selfish to even care about being part of a solution versus contributing to the problem, and it is not beneficial in terms of a solution when a tiny minority of consumers take a stand on principle, even when doing so is the right thing to do. All it does is make them a target for the Kool-Aid drinkers that look for ways to legitimize stupidity.

17 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

I agree, having choices is a good thing. As I stated in an earlier post, choices are being removed in every aspect of our lives. We are truly living in the times of "The demolition man". Your only choices for take out are Taco Bell, beef is considered bad, and sex via a neuro link are just around the corner.

And, if you refuse to fall in line with the totalitarian mindset you are an extremist that gets tagged with a list of totally bogus labels by rabid sheeple and their imbecile zombie squad commanders.

[1610ftw]

Don't forget to play this while test driving the new beastly 666W 4090 bios:

 

[1610ftw]

14 hours ago, ryan said:

I dont have a shop just an apartment. but I opened the window and its pretty cold 15c and the temps dont seem to be affected. I will move it closer to the window but I cant see getting 9200 and I dont see the point if I have to freeze my ass off to attain it.

 

 

Don't do it then unless you want to break into the top listings on 3DMark or elsewhere.

 

If this is about usability and everyday performance then I would rather try to optimize temps in a setting where you actually would use your laptop - that will probably not be outside when it is freezing 😄

 

[Papusan]

On 12/27/2022 at 7:59 AM, Mr. Fox said:

Interesting... if we were asking Azor he would say this is "normal" LOL.

 

It seems Azor's former job at Dell gaming division, have big influence on AMD🤮 He is already come a long way make his name in stone at AMD HQ. 

 

Remember what AMD said... No need for a huge cooler or the new 600w Nvidia power connector as Nvidia because we go with a more power efficient GPU design and can cut costs due our engineering  decision for the GPU reference design. And due the lower GPU's TGP we can now do "cost cutting" on the mounting on the GPU cooler. The shorter time each fabric worker spend on each card.... More profits to AMD.

 

On AMD's own Reddit page, nero1338 writes that he tried to make a warranty claim on his Radeon RX 7900 XTX, but that it was denied by AMD, who in an email reply briefly stated that "temperatures are normal". Barely a day after the post was published, an AMD employee contacted the user and wrote that they wanted to examine the graphics card, whereupon nero1338 was asked to send it to AMD's office in Canada.

 

AMD denies warranty case on overheating Radeon RX 7900 XTX

• Graphics card
• yesterday 14:13

 

Users report that their Radeon RX 7900 XTX tops out at 110 degrees, the fan runs high, and performance drops.

 

It is currently not known what AMD is doing to curb the problems and whether they will start accepting RMA cases on the Radeon RX 7900 XTX that uses the company's reference design MBA. Worth noting is that the owner of an RX 7900 XTX does not need to worry about the high temperatures, as the worst that happens is that the clock frequencies are lowered precisely to prevent overheating and that the hardware is damaged.

 

110 °C is certainly the limit of what a chip can be expected to do. The performance is already throttled here, which of course is unacceptable for a card that costs more than 1,000 euros. Unfortunately, our samples have not yet had such high values. Apparently only the MBA designs are affected - regardless of whether they are sold directly by AMD or by a board partner. The cards run off the same assembly line anyway.

On 12/27/2022 at 8:53 AM, Papusan said:

You mean the above 100C ? Long time since I have seen graphics cards reaching the boiling point for eggs😀

 

Tested a bit with the new build. GPU could run a bit colder but the 12900K is around 50C in games so thats fine results. Far away from Azor's "this is fine" HW temp target, LOOL

 

New is better... Always

 

 

14 hours ago, Papusan said:

@Mr. FoxLOOOL 

 

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/222448-benchhate-pentium-gold-g7400-3700mhz-99826-cb-cinebench-r23-multi-core-with-benchmate/

Nice. Just remove the reply/thread from the Hwbot forum without notice and no one will know what happened. And no one will know how flawed the validation software can be.