Papusan Posted Tuesday at 06:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:35 PM Let'm burn. One by one. What brands doesn't matter. Will never come a proper fix before most of them melt to crispy crunch... A Zotac RTX 5090 Solid completely burns out its connector! 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted Tuesday at 06:44 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 06:44 PM 4 hours ago, Papusan said: Let'm burn. One by one. What brands doesn't matter. A Zotac RTX 5090 Solid completely burns out its connector! This may not mean much, but it seems like all of the melted connections I have seen have been on air-cooled 4090 and 5090 GPUs. I wonder if that is somehow contributing to the melting plastics. It may be mostly due to liquid cooling being less common. My liquid cooled cards have a thermal pad to help wick away heat from the connector to the backplate, and it definitely works. The backplate is always warmer around the connector. It also looks as if both of those examples above are using the octopus adapters that ship with the GPUs and not aftermarket cables/adapters. 1 1 WRAITH // X870E Apex | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 32GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X870E-E Strix | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) MEH!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted Tuesday at 06:59 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:59 PM 35 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: This may not mean much, but it seems like all of the melted connections I have seen have been on air-cooled 4090 and 5090 GPUs. I wonder if that is somehow contributing to the melting plastics. I may be mostly due to liquid cooling being less common. My liquid cooled cards have a thermal pad to help wick away heat from the connector to the backplate, and it definitely works. The backplate is always warmer around the connector. It also looks as if both of those examples above are using the octopus adapters that ship with the GPUs and not aftermarket cables/adapters. 8 out of 10 cards sold in the market is probably air cooled cards. And the average gamer Joe #if buying xx90's" prefer air cooled cards. And not sure even with help some won't connect the tiny trash correctly to the card. Even pros can fail the same task. And if you connect it properly that doesn't necessarily mean the current will be balanced between each of the 12V pins. And you may see if you succeded after a few months/a year. Use of clamp meter is needed if you want to be 100% sure everything is correctly connected. But I expect the average pc user will never test it this way. It's plug and play. 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM 1 hour ago, Papusan said: Let'm burn. One by one. What brands doesn't matter. Will never come a proper fix before most of them melt to crispy crunch... A Zotac RTX 5090 Solid completely burns out its connector! Myself personally, I am not a fan of any downward pressure/force on these cables especially the official adapter. Since Ampere, I have always run my cables up over the back suspended and supported by either another cable and/or a cable tie from the top of the case. Second, the way they jut out really leaves no choice for many to put some bent stress on it depending on case depth. Even in my Phanteks Enthroo which is pretty massive with the cable connector run completely straight as possible before the suspended hold, it is protruding past the glass cover (or where it would be). If you're running a down run on the cable, I would actually give it some slack and use some cable ties to remove any and all type of pressure off the cable from the bottom and give it support. That expansion and contraction of the connector along with that constant pull on it can't be good. lastly, I would just sacrifice aesthetics and if that means having to run it with the panel off do it that way. You can always run a right angle adapter that you trust, but even then I would still give the cable some slack and then use a zip tie or retention mechanism on the bottom of the case to remove all pull from the cable. With the Wireview 2 pro warranty in place, I do plan on transitioning to a single run and potentially swapping in either my pre-existing MSI AI300p (AI = barf) or an Asrock 1600w PSU and then running the 800w vBIOS. 1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said: This may not mean much, but it seems like all of the melted connections I have seen have been on air-cooled 4090 and 5090 GPUs. I wonder if that is somehow contributing to the melting plastics. I may be mostly due to liquid cooling being less common. My liquid cooled cards have a thermal pad to help wick away heat from the connector to the backplate, and it definitely works. The backplate is always warmer around the connector. It also looks as if both of those examples above are using the octopus adapters that ship with the GPUs and not aftermarket cables/adapters. 1 hour ago, Papusan said: 8 out of 10 cards sold in the market is probably air cooled cards. And the average gamer Joe #if buying xx90's" prefer air cooled cards. It's probably a bit of three things: #1. Air cooled cards vastly outsell waterblocked cards (aka Joe Gamer) who plug n play and just go even twisting and forcing their connections if need to make them fit which is problematic in and unto itself. #2. Those who block their cards are also cognizant of the connector issues and usually take a higher level of care and attention to their cards and cable(s). #3. The nature of the block, coverage and cooling can provide better cooling to the connector assuming the imbalance of amps and subsequent heat is the issue and as a result the extra heat is being dissipated at a higher level than normal connections. It isn't as if the imbalanced amps are killing the connectors. It's the absolute meltdowns as a byproduct that are doing it. So you have not only a much smaller audience who block but within that audience a higher degree of care and maintenance along with added cooling to the connector. 1 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted Tuesday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:40 PM On 11/23/2025 at 10:56 PM, Papusan said: And what you think will happen once China again can get whatever they want from Nvidia and AMD? Component shortages will increase further and push the prices on pc hardware to new height we have never seen. China they wiill be delighted... China's huge big fleet of tech engineers will make wonders with the better western tech to boost their military technologies. Greed, flattery and stupidity come at a huge price. Some is so stupid that they can't see it themself. Sad they don't know who'm they themself are. Maybe look into the "golden"mirror above the golden sink. I'm sure you will see stupidity. Fooled by Jensen and Xi Jinping. The United States wants to give NVIDIA back the ability to sell its GPUs to China. RTX6000 aready tested with Geekbench. Come with 84GB GDDR7. Better use the scarce vram chips for consumer products than for AI workstations in China. But max profits beats common sense. Nvidia with good help of the jokes in the US adm now targeting AI hardware demand in China. NVIDIA RTX 6000D made-for-China GPU: 84GB GDDR7, lower clocks, slower than RTX PRO 6000 And Samsung is finally ready to help Nvidia to feed the Chinese market with GPUs for AI workflow. Samsung begins mass production of 28 Gbps GDDR7 3GB memory, faster variants now sampling "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted Tuesday at 11:50 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:50 PM A few of you might know I was put on unpaid furlough on Friday, along with about 8 or 10 other people where I worked, including my daughter and the company owner's nephew that has worked there for 15 years. I had my second job interview for an opportunity that looks really promising and I expect to be an even better job than what I had (which was great in every respect until Friday). I have never been unemployed before, but I am hoping to get an offer on this next week. So, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers. I hope all of you in the US celebrate a great Thanksgiving with your loved ones. We all have so very much to be thankful for, even when there are days that it doesn't seem like it. 2 1 1 WRAITH // X870E Apex | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 32GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X870E-E Strix | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) MEH!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted yesterday at 12:06 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:06 AM You know things are circling the drain when Steve is kicking Winduhz to the curb. 1 WRAITH // X870E Apex | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 32GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X870E-E Strix | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) MEH!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted yesterday at 03:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:17 AM 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: You know things are circling the drain when Steve is kicking Winduhz to the curb. Railway to Hell....... Microsoft just can't stop making wrong choices. 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted yesterday at 07:39 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:39 PM Sugi put up a nice post over on the OCN forums discussing the MSI connector and the differences in their PSU cable versus their adapter. Basically the 4 headed dongle doesn't have complete coverage around all sides solid and is more of a crimp top connector suspect to pressure/bending and opening up over time. This supports my argument about bending/pressure/pulling on the adapter making it susceptible to opening up a bit or changing over time with constant amps and heat/contraction AND force being applied. I'm a firm proponent of making sure your connection is devoid of any external, unneeded force or pull while it is violently trying to handle 600w even with a heavy duty made adapter, but the MSI yellow terror may be subject to a higher chance of suffering from structural fatigue due to its design. Here is how I run mine: There is zero pull or drag on the connector and any force is actually upward if any. I can't imagine *4* PCIe cables attached to the adapter then all that just being pulled down by gravity over time let alone bent and pinched to go with it would have long term viability. We obviously know many other cables and connectors are suspect to meltdowns as we've seen them in the wild, but this is a first design choice that MAY lend the MSI adapter to have a higher failure rate especially in conditions where it isn't optimally paired and supported. 1 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 2200/6400 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 165hz 32" Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Where is the QC ? Gigabyte also failed QC when they started to use thermal putty on their graphics cards. Brand new 5070 TI, noticed this immediately, anyone have seen something like this before? I have not plugged it in, and do not intend to do so. "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago On 11/25/2025 at 10:40 PM, Papusan said: Nvidia with good help of the jokes in the US adm now targeting AI hardware demand in China. NVIDIA RTX 6000D made-for-China GPU: 84GB GDDR7, lower clocks, slower than RTX PRO 6000 And Samsung is finally ready to help Nvidia to feed the Chinese market with GPUs for AI workflow. Samsung begins mass production of 28 Gbps GDDR7 3GB memory, faster variants now sampling Yup. For AI GPUs to China. Nvidia has reportedly asked Samsung to double its production of GDDR7, possibly for AI GPUs to China—although we're hoping for some more VRAM-stacked RTX 50-series Super cards Oh great, the latest rumours suggest Nvidia might stop bundling VRAM with its GPUs, because who cares about cheap graphics cards "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Happy Thanksgiving everyone! 2 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | Gigabyte Aorus Elite X870E| AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 31 minutes ago, Raiderman said: Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Happy Thanksgiving, brother. And, to all the same. Life has its ups and downs, sometimes significant challenges, but there are always more reasons to give thanks than we can count. Blessings to all of you and your loved ones. WRAITH // X870E Apex | 9950X | 5090 Solid OC | 32GB DDR5-8000 | GF3 1650W | Triple 360 Loop | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO (T-Rex) BANSHEE // X870E-E Strix | 9950X | 4090 Suprim | 48GB DDR5-8000 | Edge 1300W | Dual 360 Loop || O11D XL EVO (Rhinoceros) MEH!! // Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth | MXM Quadro P5000 16GB | 32GB DDR4 | 4K IPS Display | $500 Turdbook (Sea Turtle) Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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