Mr. Fox Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 32 minutes ago, jaybee83 said: so guys, seems like HWInfo is already on it with Blackwell hotspot readouts: Good news, because HWMonitor sucks. Another happy degradation-free experience with 13th and 14th Gen Intel. 2 1 REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8600 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Papusan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, jaybee83 said: so guys, seems like HWInfo is already on it with Blackwell hotspot readouts: HWiNFO adds RTX 50 hotspot temperature reporting, RTSS can display it too No Hot Spot for MSI Afterburner, but RTSS supports it MSI Afterburner developer Alexey “Unwinder” Nicolaychuk explained that he cannot add RTX 50 hotspot monitoring directly to Afterburner for legal and marketing reasons. MSI Afterburner is official NVIDIA partner-branded software, so its monitoring features must rely on sensors exposed through NVIDIA’s supported NVAPI interfaces. Due to some weird reasons NVIDIA still keeps VRAM/hotspot temperature monitoring interfaces for private internal NV software only, they are not open even to partners making NVIDIA bases graphics cards. Every single currently existing tool displaying VRAM/hotspot temperatgure on NVIDIA side rely on reverse engineered private NVAPI interfaces (or even direct GPU access in case of RTX 5000 cards), which doesn’t make green GPU vendor too happy. — Unwinder 19 hours ago, electrosoft said: Hopefully not a situation of Nvidia influencing them to not add it as a readout. Now we need MSI AB to add it in for their OSD. RTX 50 hotspot data is hidden from NVAPI and can only be accessed through direct GPU register reads, while earlier hotspot and VRAM readings used reverse-engineered private interfaces. Unwinder can demonstrate this access through his independent RivaTuner Statistics Server project, but he cannot include an unofficial implementation in MSI Afterburner unless NVIDIA adds the sensor to its public API. Unwider strongly suggests that someone create a plugin that would allow for easy unofficial support. 1 "The Killer" ASUS Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel
Talon Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago And they say AI and LLM are useless. I used my robot and got this added in less than 30 minutes. 1 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
Mr. Fox Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago Mumak has a test build available that has hotspot temps. Here is a link to his post. https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/nvidia-rtx-5080-incorrect-gpu-hotspot-temp-missing-3rd-fan-speed-summary-info.10306/post-52987 2 1 REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8600 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Talon Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Morning project done, did this with ChatGPT in a couple of hours. Remove the .txt from the hotspot.dll @Mr. Fox @Papusan @electrosoft BlackwellHotspot.dll.txtBlackwellHotspot_MSI_Afterburner_Guide_v3_1.pdf 2 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
Talon Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago BlackwellHotspot_v1.2.dll.txt Use this new version of the .dll I've added Hotspot Delta which is the delta between the coldest and hottest sensor. So now you'll get not only the hottest hotspot, but the delta between the 6 sensors. Edit: Make sure to download it as all files, and save it as BlackwellHotspot.dll 3 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
Mr. Fox Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Talon said: Morning project done, did this with ChatGPT in a couple of hours. Remove the .txt from the hotspot.dll @Mr. Fox @Papusan @electrosoft BlackwellHotspot.dll.txt 5.5 kB · 1 download BlackwellHotspot_MSI_Afterburner_Guide_v3_1.pdf 8 kB · 1 download 2 hours ago, Talon said: BlackwellHotspot_v1.2.dll.txt 6.5 kB · 0 downloads Use this new version of the .dll I've added Hotspot Delta which is the delta between the coldest and hottest sensor. So now you'll get not only the hottest hotspot, but the delta between the 6 sensors. Edit: Make sure to download it as all files, and save it as BlackwellHotspot.dll I have followed the instructions in the PDF but I do not see the sensor in the Monitoring tab in Afterburner. Edit: I uninstalled Afterburner and started again from scratch, followed all of the instructions precisely and still no new HotSpot sensor(s). Do I need to be using an obscure version of Afterburner? I am using the latest I can find for download on Guru3d. Edited 50 minutes ago by Mr. Fox no workey REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8600 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Clamibot Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago Given my amazing results with liquid metal on the CPU in my other systems, I decided to go ahead and repaste my Alienware 17 R1 with liquid metal. Man, it runs even better than it did when new! As predicted, it significantly increased my thermal headroom, which increased my indefinite sustained power envelope from 55w to greater than 75w. I haven't tried pushing it yet, so I don't know the actual limit yet, but this is exciting. Having the Chichen upgraded heatsinks for this laptop also helps a lot. Perhaps I can beat my previous winter benchmarks at 4.1 GHz all core and do that during the summer now, plus more. It's crazy that a 13 year old laptop is still useful for a lot of things even today. Backstory: since my memory requirements have increased due to my development workflow, I needed more RAM but didn't want to buy any, so I opted to instead reuse old hardware, and thus bring my Alien back into daily service. I'm offloading lighter tasks to it that I know it can handle, as ultimately I needed to unload web browsing from my desktop onto my Alien instead, freeing up 12+ GB of RAM for making builds of the games I develop (yeah I have lots of tabs open). Easy reuse of the 32 GB of RAM in my Alien. I think it enjoys being out of retirement. I missed it too. 1 AlienyHackbook: Alienware M17X R5 | i7-4930MX | GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR3L Kingston HyperX @ 2133 MHz CL 12 | MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 | Windows 10 LTSC | Hackintoshes Rule! Desktop Killer: Clevo X170SM-G | i9-10900K | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix @ 3200 MHz CL 16 | Windows 10 LTSC | Slayer Of Desktops Sagattarius A: Custom Built Desktop | i9-10900K | RX 6950 XT | 32GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws @ 4200 MHz CL 15 | Windows 10 LTSC | Ultimate Performance Desktop With Cryo Cooling!
Talon Posted 25 minutes ago Posted 25 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said: I have followed the instructions in the PDF but I do not see the sensor in the Monitoring tab in Afterburner. Edit: I uninstalled Afterburner and started again from scratch, followed all of the instructions precisely and still no new HotSpot sensor(s). Do I need to be using an obscure version of Afterburner? I am using the latest I can find for download on Guru3d. Did you import the sensor? Under monitoring tab, go to "Active Hardware Monitoring Graphs" -- the ... at the right of that. Checkmark on the BlackwellHotspot.dll and hit Ok then Apply. You will then have both GPU 1 Hotspot Temperature and GPU 1 Hotspot Delta at the bottom of the monitoring tab. Might need to restart Afterburner to get to populate after you enable the .dll Apologies for not being more clear. I'll update the guide. Also this is how the RTCore.cfg file should look. Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
Mr. Fox Posted 7 minutes ago Author Posted 7 minutes ago Yes. I added it as shown in your screenshot. There is no new sensor in the Monitoring tab. I followed all of the instructions exactly as you presented them. Does not work. I uninstalled Afterburner and tried again and no dice. 1 REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8600 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Mr. Fox Posted just now Author Posted just now 24 minutes ago, Talon said: Did you import the sensor? Under monitoring tab, go to "Active Hardware Monitoring Graphs" -- the ... at the right of that. Checkmark on the BlackwellHotspot.dll and hit Ok then Apply. You will then have both GPU 1 Hotspot Temperature and GPU 1 Hotspot Delta at the bottom of the monitoring tab. Might need to restart Afterburner to get to populate after you enable the .dll Apologies for not being more clear. I'll update the guide. Also this is how the RTCore.cfg file should look. 6 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Yes. I added it as shown in your screenshot. There is no new sensor in the Monitoring tab. I followed all of the instructions exactly as you presented them. Does not work. I uninstalled Afterburner and tried again and no dice. REAPER | Z890 APEX | 270K PLUS | RTX 5090 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8600 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller WRAITH | X870E APEX | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D MINI V2 BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 9950X | RTX 3070 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | Test Bench Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Talon Posted just now Posted just now 2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Yes. I added it as shown in your screenshot. There is no new sensor in the Monitoring tab. I followed all of the instructions exactly as you presented them. Does not work. I uninstalled Afterburner and tried again and no dice. Hmmm. The .dll isn't even shown? Let me go back and look at what the robot typed in the guide. Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
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