*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

25 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Would you prefer that  Cook take over and run Nvidia? I am at a loss for words.

 

President Trump says Apple’s Tim Cook is the only man to replace Jensen Huang as Nvidia CEO

 

 

 

 

For business-facing markets it is not too far fetched, but hiring that clown for anything that relates to gaming and PC performance enthusiast interests it would be an idiotic decision. Someone like that nutjob would just perpetuate the likelihood of PC gaming and enthusiast interests continuing to be marginalized and no longer a relevant business pursuit. One need look no further than the crApple product stack and the $hitshow that their garbage represents.

[Meaker]

Jensen came up from the GPU market, so I think he might have had at least some desire to have the fastest GPU and maintain a reputation.

We could end up with someone who looks at the numbers and goes "who needs geforce?" and just kills the consumer side.

[Mr. Fox]

1 minute ago, Meaker said:

Jensen came up from the GPU market, so I think he might have had at least some desire to have the fastest GPU and maintain a reputation.

We could end up with someone who looks at the numbers and goes "who needs geforce?" and just kills the consumer side.

Exactly. And a clown like Cook would be the kind of moron to take that position.

[Meaker]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

We are living in dark times worldwide and things stand to get much worse in the near future. Wickedness is a way of life now. Setting aside all of the extremely undesirable political troubles and inevitable fallout looming on the horizon and focusing on the technology space, a huge part of it is a concerted effort to monetize everything and convert personal computing into a subscription model in every way possible. The big players don't want PC enthusiasts or general computer users to own long-lasting, powerful and capable hardware or locally installed software that allows a buy-once/use forever scenario to occur. We can say we "don't blame them from a business perspective" but the intent is self-serving and nefarious at its root, designed to extract every ounce of revenue possible and make being dependent versus self-sufficient the end goal. I do blame them. It's the wrong path for everyone.

 

This touches all aspects of life in the world we live in. Essentially the same business model as big pharma. Nobody wants cures or permanent solutions. They want lifelong prescriptions that feed the pig for the same reasons that big tech wants lifelong subscriptions. The end user is no longer a valued customer, we are a source of revenue that needs to be captured in perpetuity. No thanks. Hard pass. I do blame them and that business model. It's messed up and unacceptable.

It's a lack of empathy and a long term perspective, just chasing the next quarter IMO.

 

I'm just waiting to hear how my community is also responsible for this from some people. I'm sure we already have some people transvestigating the Chinese spy.

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Meaker said:

Jensen came up from the GPU market, so I think he might have had at least some desire to have the fastest GPU and maintain a reputation.

We could end up with someone who looks at the numbers and goes "who needs geforce?" and just kills the consumer side.

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

For business-facing markets it is not too far fetched

 

Hmmm. Nvidia could start competing with their own partners and offer their own homebreved "RTX Spark" laptop and desktops. I’m sure Cook could contribute something with that... He has the needed experience. And Nvidia already do it with their graphics cards. Why not go into Jokebook business once the AI bubble pops?  

 

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[Mr. Fox]

10 minutes ago, Meaker said:

It's a lack of empathy and a long term perspective, just chasing the next quarter IMO.

 

I'm just waiting to hear how my community is also responsible for this from some people. I'm sure we already have some people transvestigating the Chinese spy.

It is that for sure. Greed and self-aggrandizing business ventures are agnostic to anything else with no regard to who it affects. The agenda needed for furtherance of the corporate enrichment strategy is the only thing that matters. Anything else is an inconvenient annoyance and distraction. It doesn't matter where their money comes from or how it is acquired as long as it comes.

7 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Hmmm. Nvidia could start competing with their own partners and offer their own homebreved "RTX Spark" laptop and desktops. I’m sure Cook could contribute something with that... He has the needed experience. And Nvidia already do it with their graphics cards. Why not go into Jokebook business once the AI bubble pops?  

He is really skilled at peddling garbage, that is for sure. And, he is worshipped by his garbage lovers.

[electrosoft]

18 hours ago, Meaker said:

Jensen came up from the GPU market, so I think he might have had at least some desire to have the fastest GPU and maintain a reputation.

We could end up with someone who looks at the numbers and goes "who needs geforce?" and just kills the consumer side.

 

I think a version of this was already in play as we were seeing Nvidia greatly reducing (IE, near zero) output of 5090 cards, they've cancelled the 5080 24GB and now the market for the next year at least looks like a 9070xt vs 5080 war but the 5080 at 2x the price in many match ups. We are also looking at 2028 for anything GPU wise new and exciting at this point. You will get maximum value out of your 9070xt and are primed for Zen6 with your setup.

 

18 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

 

Hmmm. Nvidia could start competing with their own partners and offer their own homebreved "RTX Spark" laptop and desktops. I’m sure Cook could contribute something with that... He has the needed experience. And Nvidia already do it with their graphics cards. Why not go into Jokebook business once the AI bubble pops?  

 

 

 

Tim Cook voluntarily stepped down as CEO at Apple and is still on the board. He is 66 and I am sure he isn't looking to drive another ship. He'll gladly sit on the board of Apple into retirement. I don't see him going to Nvidia in any capacity.

 

18 hours ago, Meaker said:

It's a lack of empathy and a long term perspective, just chasing the next quarter IMO.

 

I'm just waiting to hear how my community is also responsible for this from some people. I'm sure we already have some people transvestigating the Chinese spy.

 

That is exactly the problem. With all the channel stuffing and in the moment profit chasing and lack of long term perspective, it will come back to haunt Nvidia. They are making enemies hand over fist.

 

Fear and hate drive  transvestigations unfortunately.  

 

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Thermal Grizzly clarifies its WireView Pro II warranty for burned/damaged 5090s.

 

Two year warranty

Card must remain in spec

If they can't repair it they'll replace it but same model is not guaranteed

 

Very fair, and in theory, you could buy a NEW WireView Pro II every two years and extend the warranty on your card....

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/thermal-grizzly-clarifies-wireview-pro-ii-gpu-warranty-and-cable-requirements

 

I run my card completely within spec except for the occassional test/bench run.

 

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AMD GPU supply constraints as drops of 20-50% are experienced in China:

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-gaming-gpu-supply-reportedly-falls-20-to-50-in-china

 

I'm not too sure what's going on here unless AMD is suddenly experiencing an uptick in their AI variants of GPUs.....

 

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On 11/11/2026 at 11:18 PM, Mr. Fox said:

@tps3443 - try  the above to see if it works for Ryzen the same. Leave tWR on Auto and use the formula above to control tWR using tWRPRE. With tWR set to Auto you should see the actual value displayed (48 in the above example) in ZenTimings.

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Tweaked a couple more settings to drop latency a bit more.

I think I might be looking for another 8800 or 9000 CUDIMM kit in a few months. (I am seeing some indications that DDR5 prices might start to go down soon. Hope so.) For the interim, I think I am going to strip the chrome heatsinks off my new Corsair Vengeance 8800 CUDIMMs and put them in the second Apex on water and put these 8400 G.SKILL UDIMMs in the Unify-X (also on water) since it is not quite as good at memory overclocking as the Apex boards are.

 

I'll have to give this a try and see if all roads lead to Rome. The blessing in these times is the limitations on 99% of AM5 chips means CUDIMMS and even highly binned UDIMMs are a non factor. 

 

The curse is Z890 has given us a taste of what's to come with Nova and hopefully Zen6.

 

All my kits are UDIMMs except that pair of 9200 Vengeance sticks which had no problems tapping out my Z890 Strix board in G2 at 9066. Ill have to wait for something beefier to see how high they can fly.

 

I just feel like we are hitting peak saturation with the AI bubble and things will be coming down sooner than later and a lot of those "contracts" will either go into default status or be renegotiated.

 

On 11/11/2026 at 9:44 PM, Mr. Fox said:

It is not remarkably different. Much easier than Ryzen and not nearly as persnickety. Z890 is mostly different on the CPU-side of overclocking. There is more crap like NGU and D2D that comes as baggage with the new CPU architecture.

 

No, I am not planning on selling the 5090. It is in one of my Z890 Apex builds. I generally use that one for benching with the chiller and it stays turned off most of the time. I just dropped a new 270K Plus into the Z890 Apex with the water-cooled 5080. The other 5080 is the air-cooled Prime GPU on the open bench with the Z890 Unify-X.

 

I need to delid this new CPU, but it will have to wait until my thumbs are healed up. I had surgery on both thumbs... left one last month and right one on Monday, and I do not have the necessary dexterity at  the moment. My right thumb is still bandaged up with stitches and the left one is still limited range of motion.

 

Ouch, sorry to hear about the thumbs @Mr. Fox. What happened? How is the SP99 performing still lidded compared to the other samples you have before they got the Henry VIII treatment?

 

 

[Papusan]

23 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Speaking of "dark times" it appears Micro$lop services are down. Everything Micro$lop is down at work. Outlook, SharePoint, OneDrive, Office suite, etc. and I just checked on my personal computer and outlook.com is inaccessible.

 

 

Typical Microsoft. I'm sure they screwed up own services du own homebrewed updates for the month. Don't blame hardware upgrade. Can't put the blame on homebrewed AI, LOL

 

Microsoft: AI, hackers not to blame for Outlook services outage

Microsoft blamed its own network errors for the outage that took down its Outlook email and other consumer and enterprise services on Thursday.

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2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Tim Cook voluntarily stepped down as CEO at Apple and is still on the board. He is 66 and I am sure he isn't looking to drive another ship. He'll gladly sit on the board of Apple into retirement. I don't see him going to Nvidia in any capacity.

 

Yup, My main point it was a stupid suggestion from the old man.

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Ouch, sorry to hear about the thumbs @Mr. Fox. What happened? How is the SP99 performing still lidded compared to the other samples you have before they got the Henry VIII treatment?

The SP99 chip is running about the same as the SP98 other than 20°C higher load temps due to the stock solder/IHS. They are remarkably close to one another. The memory controller and ring (and their SP ratings) are higher on the first CPU. Both are one SP point lower installed in my systems than they were in the marketplace photos. I am eager to get it on direct die and see how it does with CUDIMM modules and get those crazy CPU temps under control. At P58x and E52x all core it hits 100°C in Cinebench R23 even though VCore is only 1.375V. What is nice is the VID is almost identical on every single core. There is no meaningful variance in quality among cores, so I don't need to use more voltage to account for weaker cores or tune voltage differences on a per-core basis to account for variance.

 

Here is the SP detail on the first one I bought...

Spoiler

Here is the SP detail on the second one I just bought...

Spoiler

The Unify-X motherboard is not nearly as capable as the Apex(s) are. It's awesome in most ways except that MSI firmware sucks. It looks fantastic and I love the design and layout. (I think any firmware that is not on a ROG board leaves performance and stability on the table.) I am using the SP87 CPU from @Talon in it at the moment and it doesn't run nearly as well on the Unify-X as it did on the Apex. NGU and D2D and memory overclock capacity are lower and memory benchmark results are slightly reduced. I might sell it and buy another Apex or an mATX board if I could actually find one worth purchasing. A good mATX or ITX mobo is extremely rare, especially on Z890. I wish ASUS made a black and chrome Z890 Apex.

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About the thumbs... I had arthritic bone spurs in the joints closest to the thumb nail. That was not really causing any issue on its own. It wasn't really painful and I would not have even known about that, but the bone spurs caused ganglion cysts to form on the joint and it was affecting the nailbed, causing the thumbnails to get flattened, rough and ridged. The left thumb cyst got huge (about the size of a pea under the skin) and the right one started growing. So the surgery was to grind off the bone spurs and surgically remove the cysts. (If you just drain them they will return.) They did the left one the first week of last month and the right one on Monday. It hurts like son-of-a-gun, and I have a high pain threshold and seldom complain or have trouble tolerating it. Even the one they did last month still hurts, and range of motion is still severely limited. I'll be glad when they stop hurting and I regain normal function. Hopefully sooner than later.

 

Below is a picture (in the spoiler). Just got the bandage off the right one yesterday and haven't been able to wash off the iodine stains yet. (I can't scrub it or lather it up with soap yet because the incision is still easy to fracture.) Sutures come out Friday of next week on the one they fixed on Monday. Removing the stiches was the worst part. There are more sensitive nerves in the the thumb than I ever realized. Appearance-wise the left one is looking good, but it doesn't feel good yet.

 

Spoiler

 

[Papusan]

On 11/12/2026 at 6:04 PM, Papusan said:

There is a lot more into this. All the smuggling of chips and helping build up China's AI capacity (in the grey market) is probably the main reason. 

 

And China... They does what they always do. First fill up (stock up) with chips and vram, then make it work the way they want it....

Modded Nvidia RTX 5090 with 96 GB VRAM and custom BIOS surfaces in China

 

Probably only the top of the iceberg. Can't say it all as it will most likley tank Nvidia further down the drain. Just come up with some small pieces of info at time. Months forwards. 

 

 

Mass smuggling of up to 1.5 million Nvidia AI GPUs could be the underlying cause of Jensen Huang's departure, analysts claim