*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

On 6/26/2024 at 4:46 PM, Papusan said:

nd Asus strikes again. What's wrong with Asus and Jayz ? @Mr. Fox 

 

At least he got back on the right path for using dry ice with a pot. But, his results were not impressive due to lack of experience. I've done better using chilled water. But, it's still good for entertainment purposes.

 

[electrosoft]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

At least he got back on the right path for using dry ice with a pot. But, his results were not impressive due to lack of experience. I've done better using chilled water. But, it's still good for entertainment purposes.

 

 

He has a decent amount of experience with LN2. Nowhere near on the scale of the true pros though. The immediate problem is the pot and surface coverage. If he had a better pot tailored to the 14900k, it would do better. His approach for the most part is sound. He notes the pot limitations early on in the video because the other one he wants to use can't clear the caps on the MB. The pot is not centered either. It is just not the right tool for the job. 🙂

 

A binned 14900k would help a bit too along with tuning the voltages in tandem to dial it in with the pot. Also throw in a need for an optimized W11 environment and maybe some RT runs for measure too.

 

CB23 44,451 multi  is not great at all....but always fun to watch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

At least he got back on the right path for using dry ice with a pot. But, his results were not impressive due to lack of experience. I've done better using chilled water. But, it's still good for entertainment purposes.

 

 

Yup, I also enoy this channel below🙂 What to avoid.... Yep, Gigabyte goes their own way. So no love from NWR. But we all know that. My one and lonely Gigabyte card (one of +20 different cards) died due my hobby. Yup, I avoid this brand. Cheap old or not doesn't matter.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, I also enoy this channel below🙂 What to avoid.... Yep, Gigabyte goes their own way. So no love from NWR. But we all know that. My one and lonely Gigabyte card (one of +20 different cards) died due my hobby. Yup, I avoid this brand. Cheap old or not doesn't matter.

 

 

Yes, I really enjoy that channel. Very good information.

 

I am not sure why the fuse did not blow, but there could be a valid reason it did not. The damage looks almost like it was user-induced. It looks like physical damage with the chunk broken off. If the owner of the GPU broke PCB at the connection on the edge and the contacts pads were out of alignment when the GPU was inserted into the motherboard that may have shorted in the socket without sending any power through the GPU PCB. If the short was in the PCIe slot it could burn things at the point of contact without any power being routed through the fuse or the PCB. That could explain why the fuse was not blown.

 

I would like to see what the PCIe slot on the motherboard looks like. There may also have been something foreign in the PCIe slot that caused the short without sending power through the PCB, which could have burned the connection. If that were true (like a screw or washer in the PCIe slot) and the owner forced the GPU into the slot with the obstruction, that may have broken the PCB and shorted those connections.

 

[Papusan]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes, I really enjoy that channel. Very good information.

 

I am not sure why the fuse did not blow, but there could be a valid reason it did not. The damage looks almost like it was user-induced. It looks like physical damage with the chunk broken off. If the owner of the GPU broke the connection on the edge and the contacts pads were out of alignment when the GPU was inserted into the motherboard that may have shorted in the socket without sending any power through the GPU PCB. I would like to see what the PCIe slot on the motherboard looks like. There may also have been something foreign in the PCIe slot that caused the short without sending power through the PCB, which could have burned the connection. If that were true (like a screw or something in the slot) and the owner forced the GPU into the slot with the obstruction, that may have broken the PCB and shorted those connections.

 

One thing for sure he get the really bad samples for repair🙂 

 

Have fun😆

 

[Mr. Fox]

11 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

One thing for sure he get the really bad samples for repair🙂 

 

Have fun😆

 

Yes he does, and I am always amazed at how many terrible messes he is capable of fixing. He is very talented.

 

I enjoy Tech Notice as well. I am not into content creation, but his videos are very good quality and have useful information. That is a funny clip about ASUS motherboards. Don't admit to it, LOL.

 

This is an interesting video, too. He did not use the 7900 XT very long. It was not good for his use scenario.

 

[Raiderman]

@electrosoft

https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/joao-silva/msi-launches-new-bios-updates-with-agesa-1-2-0-0-for-600-series-motherboards/

 

It has not shown up on our product page, though 👎

[Papusan]

7 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

@electrosoft

https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/joao-silva/msi-launches-new-bios-updates-with-agesa-1-2-0-0-for-600-series-motherboards/

 

It has not shown up on our product page, though 👎

 

"MSI continues to prioritize user satisfaction by regularly providing updates that address issues and enhance performance"

 

Nice. Finally after 1.5 years they are able to fix the 4000 series stability issues. And right in time for 9000 series Ryzen. Yup.........

 

 

On 6/28/2024 at 12:27 AM, Papusan said:

Here's more from MSI.... How long is it since Nvidia released 4060 and 4070? MSI gamers have been living in a lie. No one at MSI tech team/support have said that there is something wrong with the platform and RTX 4000 series cards. 

 

MSI fixes instability woes with NVIDIA RTX 4000 GPUs in new AMD motherboard BIOS update

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/99042/msi-fixes-instability-woes-with-nvidia-rtx-4000-gpus-in-new-amd-motherboard-bios-update/index.html

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

 

"MSI continues to prioritize user satisfaction by regularly providing updates that address issues and enhance performance"

 

Nice. Finally after 1.5 years they are able to fix the 4000 series stability issues. And right in time for 9000 series Ryzen. Yup.........

 

 

 

Hmm. That's really strange. I don't think I've ever heard it mentioned anywhere that there was some kind of problem with NVIDIA 40 series on AMD. Now suddenly it is a problem never mentioned with a fix ready for roll-out? That doesn't make any sense to me. Something about that feels off

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Raiderman said:

@electrosoft

https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/joao-silva/msi-launches-new-bios-updates-with-agesa-1-2-0-0-for-600-series-motherboards/

 

It has not shown up on our product page, though 👎

 

Hopefully this one fixes the boot times from their last update..... I'll give it a whirl when it drops. 🙂

 

 

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

"MSI continues to prioritize user satisfaction by regularly providing updates that address issues and enhance performance"

 

Nice. Finally after 1.5 years they are able to fix the 4000 series stability issues. And right in time for 9000 series Ryzen. Yup.........

 

 

 

 

I don't run a 4060 or 4070 so.........yeah. 🙂

 

 

 

[Papusan]

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Hmm. That's really strange. I don't think I've ever heard it mentioned anywhere that there was some kind of problem with NVIDIA 40 series on AMD. Now suddenly it is a problem never mentioned with a fix ready for roll-out? That doesn't make any sense to me. Something about that feels off

 

Yup, interesting. I'm sure you'll find a lot more with a deeper search.

 

And only AMD have access to the loads of telemetry data stolen from your PC via drivers, firmware and software. I'm sure AMD also get crash logs from Microsoft. Then keep such info hided from people and fool the customers with stupid fixes they know don't work. Afterwards come with a half-baked fix they have worked on several months/years afterwards. Tech industry is a rotten business.*****https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite-laptops-suffer-compatibility-issues-with-many-games

 

Is the new always better bro @ryan? 😁

 

"Interestingly, when I swapped back to my old CPU, the Ryzen 7 2700X, I didn't experience any stuttering issues with the RTX 4070 Super".

 

Stutter with rtx 4070 super drivers

 

bad in-game stuttering issues with Ryzen 7 7800x3d build

 

 

 

 

[aldarxt]

Yup, interesting. I'm sure you'll find a lot more with a deeper search.

 

Hey @Papusan, Lets sell your avatar to Google to be the search image for microslop, nvidia, AMD and lets not forget asus

[Raiderman]

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Hopefully this one fixes the boot times from their last update..... I'll give it a whirl when it drops. 🙂

 

 

 

I don't run a 4060 or 4070 so.........yeah. 🙂

 

 

 

Hopefully 8000 ram as well. I am still two versions below this one. Which is v1F.  I would love to see post times improved also. Once I am to the boot menu it's fairly fast. Changing ram settings makes it horribly and painfully slow. It's like it's checking to make sure the settings you changed will work or fail, but it hangs on code 15 for like 30 seconds.

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

Yup, interesting. I'm sure you'll find a lot more with a deeper search.

 

And only AMD have access to the loads of telemetry data stolen from your PC via drivers, firmware and software. I'm sure AMD also get crash logs from Microsoft. Then keep such info hided from people and fool the customers with stupid fixes they know don't work. Afterwards come with a half-baked fix they have worked on several months/years afterwards. Tech industry is a rotten business.*****https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite-laptops-suffer-compatibility-issues-with-many-games

 

Is the new always better bro @ryan? 😁

 

"Interestingly, when I swapped back to my old CPU, the Ryzen 7 2700X, I didn't experience any stuttering issues with the RTX 4070 Super".

 

Stutter with rtx 4070 super drivers

 

bad in-game stuttering issues with Ryzen 7 7800x3d build

 

 

 

 

Ah, that makes sense. It might not be obvious unless it is a first-world problem if the media hasn't gone overboard making a mountain of a molehill (as they usually do everything).

[Raiderman]

On another note, I just saw this story.

Overclocking fully supported?

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000x3d-series-rumored-to-fully-support-overclocking-zen5-gets-improved-ddr5-memory-support

 

It's only mentioned for the X3D chips. If that's the case, I'll wait for them instead of getting the standard X.

[Mr. Fox]

5 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

On another note, I just saw this story.

Overclocking fully supported?

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000x3d-series-rumored-to-fully-support-overclocking-zen5-gets-improved-ddr5-memory-support

Hopefully ASUS won't kill anyones new CPUs with their cancer firmware blasting it with a ludicrous amount of voltage and ruin it for everyone else that doesn't have an ASUS mobo.

[chew]

22 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

At least he got back on the right path for using dry ice with a pot. But, his results were not impressive due to lack of experience. I've done better using chilled water. But, it's still good for entertainment purposes.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/1549149730/videos/838446151529130/

 

 

[chew]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Hopefully ASUS won't kill anyones new CPUs with their cancer firmware blasting it with a ludicrous amount of voltage and ruin it for everyone else that doesn't have an ASUS mobo.

 you act like you can't run over 1.3 soc on a gene still.......its called ln2 mode jumper 😉

[Papusan]

7 hours ago, Raiderman said:

On another note, I just saw this story.

Overclocking fully supported?

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000x3d-series-rumored-to-fully-support-overclocking-zen5-gets-improved-ddr5-memory-support

 

It's only mentioned for the X3D chips. If that's the case, I'll wait for them instead of getting the standard X.

 

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Hopefully ASUS won't kill anyones new CPUs with their cancer firmware blasting it with a ludicrous amount of voltage and ruin it for everyone else that doesn't have an ASUS mobo.

 

 

Read and learn from the link.... One step forwards then one step backwards. This reminds me all too much about oc'ing modern Jokebooks.... Security measures to limit overclocking = Exactly the way the OEMs treated laptops the last +decade. I'm sure no one have forgotten F. Azor's final fix when he saw that smart people could use dual 330W power adapters for their Alienware laptops.

 

It is mentioned, though, that although supported, AMD may introduce safeguards to limit overclocking to safer values. The byproduct of using 3D V-Cache is greater susceptibility to voltage changes.

 

 

[chew]

@Raiderman

 

You wanted to see my take on intel. Going solely for output fancy timings can kiss my ass.  I only care about actual performance.

 

 

1.12 SA welcome to 14th gen cpu's....

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, chew said:

 

https://www.facebook.com/1549149730/videos/838446151529130/

 

 

Either the link is no good or the video is gone.

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This Video Isn't Available Anymore

The link may be broken or the video may have been removed. You can explore more videos or try logging into facebook.com and then visiting the link again.

 

[chew]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Either the link is no good or the video is gone.

 

I probably need to edit it to public hold on

 

[Mr. Fox]

7 minutes ago, chew said:

I probably need to edit it to public hold on

 

Yeah, that fixed it. I could not see all of the window you had open with the tweak tool, but it looked like you were tweaking bclk. But, you got it over 11K. 😄 ❤️

 

[chew]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yeah, that fixed it. I could not see all of the window you had open with the tweak tool, but it looked like you were tweaking bclk.

boot 11200 strap 86 bclk.....walk up from there. 10350 something validated ambient  should do 11's once cold. stick is good to boot 11k on AMD.

 

https://valid.x86.fr/t9lwim

[Papusan]

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Ah, that makes sense. It might not be obvious unless it is a first-world problem if the media hasn't gone overboard making a mountain of a molehill (as they usually do everything).

 

It seems not the only issues with MSI and AMD platform. If they could wait 1.5 years for the fix for 4000 series cards, then the consumers can wait another half year for the rest. Or just use the M.2 ssd as backup disk in an nice enclosure box😬 Win win, you all need backup disks (that's not always connected to the pc)😁

 

See this issue as an great feature from MSI, LOOL

 

MSI Releases AMD AGESA Combo PI-1.2.0.0 BIOS Update for Compatibility Fixes With NVIDIA GPUs

PRESS RELEASE 

 

MSI released a new AMD AGESA Combo PI-1.2.0.0 BIOS update today for all AMD X670E, X670, B650, and A620 motherboards. This update aims to enhance the overall user experience by addressing several key issues and new improvements. Users simply need to update the BIOS to the latest version to benefit from these enhancements.

 

 

@Mr. FoxI don't think you need the heating function... But the price is still quite step for an gaming chair.

 AutoFull Announces M6 Gaming Chair with Ventilated and Heated Seat Cushion

 

Would be nice trying this one. But prices here home would be awful... You get it below $100 now. A killer price for an office chair.

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