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AMD strikes back: Ryzen 9 7945HX beats Intel Core i9-13980HX despite much lower power consumption - NotebookCheck.net News

 

This is very impressive and makes me eager to see what lesser models are capable of. I'm likely getting out of the traditional gaming laptop scene and into a smaller form factor device that can play on the side. Something like a Lenovo Slim 7 Pro X with a Ryzen 7035 and RTX 4050 would have my interest.

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Single Core:

 

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Multi-Core:

 

 

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Gaming:

 

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The main win is 120w TDP and slightly better multi-core but we will see how it performs once both 7945HX & i9 13980HX/13900HX are fine tuned. 

 

Hope the AMD cpu can be OC 

 

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From a user on reddit, no pbo running.

 

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5 minutes ago, cylix said:

From a user on reddit, no pbo running.

 

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Now the question is, can they turn on PBO and can they OC 

 

I saw someone else on reddit mention they get 34k so definitely higher than 13900hx/13980hx from factory 

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That is very impressive from AMD, Not only they win in the performance battle this year but AMD CPUs have great battery life as well. But im going to say Intel will still have the advantage because AMD still has a vendor problem so there wont be many laptops that uses AMD CPUs unless something changes later in this year.

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sigh!

 

Every year AMD, but in gaming intel always pulls ahead. Does anyone have gaming metrics to see if AMD is gaming king?

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On 3/2/2023 at 12:25 AM, KING19 said:

That is very impressive from AMD, Not only they win in the performance battle this year but AMD CPUs have great battery life as well. But im going to say Intel will still have the advantage because AMD still has a vendor problem so there wont be many laptops that uses AMD CPUs unless something changes later in this year.

 

It is possible that one of these will turn up in the Alienware m18 but indeed Intel seems to have covered pretty much all flagship designs with their 13900/950/980HX.

 

Maybe it will turn up in one or more of the upcoming workstations from HP or others.

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It’s 100% confirmed this is coming to m18 and m16. Only thing is, not until Q2 

Alienware m18             : Intel Core i9 13900HX                  | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090    | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs 

Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz    | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080    | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ 
Alienware M18x R2 :    Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000     | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO   
Clevo X170SM-G:         Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock     | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB 

More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (880m SLI) | 18 R1 (RTX 3000)

DT: Aurora R4 (i9 10980XE/RTX 4070) | Area-51 R2 (22-Core Xeon/2x Titan V) | SR-2 [2x6-Core/3x980Ti] | Mac Studio


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That was a better showing from AMD than I expected. 

I think Intel is going to have to fight harder to remain dominant in laptops. I don't have great hopes for meteor lake, but if they want to keep market share next time around they will have to keep that single thread/gaming win. If they lose it I don't know what else they have to offer

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unplug both laptops and see what happens.  Is AMD still throttling everything as soon as the power is removed or did that fix that nonsense?

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I can unplug the power on all my laptops (1st gen i7 all the way to 12th gen 12700h) and all of them can run full power. 
 

did I miss something? Only gpu throttled with power adapter removed

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Alienware M18x R2 :    Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000     | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO   
Clevo X170SM-G:         Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock     | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB 

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28 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

I can unplug the power on all my laptops (1st gen i7 all the way to 12th gen 12700h) and all of them can run full power. 
 

did I miss something? Only gpu throttled with power adapter removed

There is different behavior on ryzen laptops where all PCIE and CPU components are reduced whole sale

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Wow that's a...not good lol 

 

Kinda happy I went with Intel 13th gen. 

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Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz    | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080    | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ 
Alienware M18x R2 :    Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000     | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO   
Clevo X170SM-G:         Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock     | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB 

More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (880m SLI) | 18 R1 (RTX 3000)

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On 3/3/2023 at 9:33 AM, 1610ftw said:

 

It is possible that one of these will turn up in the Alienware m18 but indeed Intel seems to have covered pretty much all flagship designs with their 13900/950/980HX.

 

Maybe it will turn up in one or more of the upcoming workstations from HP or others.

 

Its a possibly and i hope so, It would make things interesting. Having the best performance while having lower power consumption is a major win for AMD if they can solve their vendor problem. Speaking of that.

 

 

 

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It's funny, all these laptops are expensive. Yet, thanks to a 15% off coupon, my maxed out m18 was actually a really good price ($32xx after tax). 

 

I know AW gets crap for being expensive, but these other brands are very expensive as well (especially razer and msi). 

 

Dell normally always has some sort of coupon going or you can always talk on chat or phone for a discount. 

 

I could have paid even less if I went with 16GB RAM & 512GB SSD, but with the 15% coupon, it wasn't a bad deal going 32GB/1TB. I just wish 13980HX was an option already. My laptop is already in production so I may just keep it as is, just hope the 13900HX I get is a decent bin. 

Alienware m18             : Intel Core i9 13900HX                  | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090    | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs 

Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz    | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080    | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ 
Alienware M18x R2 :    Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000     | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO   
Clevo X170SM-G:         Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock     | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB 

More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (880m SLI) | 18 R1 (RTX 3000)

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19 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

It's funny, all these laptops are expensive. Yet, thanks to a 15% off coupon, my maxed out m18 was actually a really good price ($32xx after tax). 

 

I know AW gets crap for being expensive, but these other brands are very expensive as well (especially razer and msi). 

 

Dell normally always has some sort of coupon going or you can always talk on chat or phone for a discount. 

 

I could have paid even less if I went with 16GB RAM & 512GB SSD, but with the 15% coupon, it wasn't a bad deal going 32GB/1TB. I just wish 13980HX was an option already. My laptop is already in production so I may just keep it as is, just hope the 13900HX I get is a decent bin. 

 

You are a very impatient person, I would have bet that you were going for the 13980HX just because 🙂

Not that it would make much of a difference outside of benchmarks.

 

And you are right about the pricing, with the 15%off the 4080 / 13900HX version is a pretty good value by the way, should come out to something between 2.2 and 2.4K I believe.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

 

You are a very impatient person, I would have bet that you were going for the 13980HX just because 🙂

Not that it would make much of a difference outside of benchmarks.

 

And you are right about the pricing, with the 15%off the 4080 / 13900HX version is a pretty good value by the way, should come out to something between 2.2 and 2.4K I believe.

 

 

Yes I am. But to be fair the competition already has 13980HX CPUs out. They have QHD 240Hz displays out too.

 

At this rate I might as well have waited for R2 model. 

 

Original plan was to cancel 13900HX model & buy 13980HX but they already took so long to release 4090 GPUs that the 13980HX might still be months away. 

 

Dell does offer 30-day returns so worse case would be I return it and go 13980HX or 7945HX but it all depends how my 13900HX performs. 

 

4080 model is $2,705.34 after tax with 15% coupon here. 

4090 model is $3,264.13 after tax with 15% coupon code. 

tax here is nearly 10%. 

 

Difference of $558.79 which is a bit more than I was expecting (400-500 max). 

 

However, at this price point I'd rather go big or go home, especially with 12GB vs 16GB VRAM difference too. My laptop delivers March 29th as of now so we will see. 

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Clevo X170SM-G:         Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock     | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB 

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Without taxes the 4080 in its cheapest config comes out to $2251,65 with your 15% coupon and with the mechanical keyboard and an upgrade to W11 Pro we are looking at $2375,74.

 

Not too bad for a much more solid chassis than the Asus G18.

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Asus G18 built quality is no where near Alienware m18. 

 

My friend was going to get G18 with 4080 until I showed him the m18 and helped him get the 15% coupon. He will get his m18 one day before me since he paid for next day shipping lol. I get free 2-day air with my dell account, he's more impatient than me. 

Alienware m18             : Intel Core i9 13900HX                  | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090    | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs 

Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz    | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080    | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ 
Alienware M18x R2 :    Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000     | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO   
Clevo X170SM-G:         Intel Core i7 10700K @ Stock     | nVidia GeForce RTX 2070S | AX210 | 256GB+2x512GB 

More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (880m SLI) | 18 R1 (RTX 3000)

DT: Aurora R4 (i9 10980XE/RTX 4070) | Area-51 R2 (22-Core Xeon/2x Titan V) | SR-2 [2x6-Core/3x980Ti] | Mac Studio


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4 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Asus G18 built quality is no where near Alienware m18. 

 

My friend was going to get G18 with 4080 until I showed him the m18 and helped him get the 15% coupon. He will get his m18 one day before me since he paid for next day shipping lol. I get free 2-day air with my dell account, he's more impatient than me. 

 

Good choice on behalf of your friend.

 

I would also believe that warranty options and sound will be better on the m18.

Also it has better connectivity and there are two additional m2 slots although due to their size they are of limited use.

 

 

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Apparently Ryzen 9 7945HX allows undervolting which is very good news. Timestamps are in the video.

 

Cliff notes, In CPU related tasks especially content creation AMD takes the win but not by much but in gaming it looks pretty even between the two.

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PassMark demolition of the 13980HX:

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7945HX-gets-ridiculous-on-PassMark-by-brushing-aside-the-Intel-Core-i9-13980HX-and-squaring-off-against-the-i9-13900KS-instead.700308.0.html

 

Quite the powerhouse with 16 equally strong cores while Intel continues to only have 8 P-cores.

 

Looking forward to see what it can do in some workstations but I doubt we will see much of it in the higher end versions that usually have some kind of Intel / Thunderbolt combo.

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