Katza Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 9:23 AM, crossshot said: New EC 1.07.04TR1 available I ask XMG for a changelog. https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-id-xul17e21/ Thanx! I would also like to know the release notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorV Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, solidus1983 said: Well I am back on the i7 again the GPU is now a constant 86c with hotspot at 102c. I have tried repasting the died same results. I know temps was fine with these pads on i5 as I haven't replaced them. You have a clear problem with thermal pads and because of this, an uneven fit to the GPU crystal, hence the hot spot temperature is high. Most likely, these thermal pads are very hard, and because of this, the radiator cannot lie exactly relative to the crystal. And I think they have poor thermal conductivity, judging by the appearance of video memory chips, they overheat. Isn't that Thermal Odyssey by any chance? Сlevo p870tm1-g 17.3 Fhd 300Hz i9-10980hk ES rtx3060. / Clevo x170smg 17.3 300Hz i9-10850k rtx2070super 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Gskill. / Clevo x170kmg 17.3 2k 165Hz i5-11600k rtx3080 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Hyper-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Yes it's the Odyssey, However I had them on with the i5 and they was fine. But as no one has yet been able to tell me the pad sizes it's all been a guessing and expensive game for me right now. At this rate I am just ready to give up on this Clevo x170km call it a day and go to a desktop. {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Right I have redone the GPU pads took the GPU out and used some TG2 for pressure testing yet the temps are still high like wtf. This was using the pea method in the pics above. {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorV Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 hours ago, solidus1983 said: Right I have redone the GPU pads took the GPU out and used some TG2 for pressure testing yet the temps are still high like wtf. This was using the pea method in the pics above. Somewhere I had a radiator from x170kmg with factory gaskets on it, I'll see what thicknesses of thermal pads are installed. Сlevo p870tm1-g 17.3 Fhd 300Hz i9-10980hk ES rtx3060. / Clevo x170smg 17.3 300Hz i9-10850k rtx2070super 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Gskill. / Clevo x170kmg 17.3 2k 165Hz i5-11600k rtx3080 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Hyper-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorV Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, ViktorV said: Somewhere I had a radiator from x170kmg with factory gaskets on it, I'll see what thicknesses of thermal pads are installed. You have a very thick thermal pad in the throttle area, it does not allow the radiator to lie down correctly (see photo 2). Compare the contact patch of the GPU crystal from my radiator and yours, you need to achieve a fit result like mine. And as I said earlier, Thermal Odyssey is not the best choice, they are very rigid and this makes it difficult to fit the radiator. I also noticed that the contact patch of the processor also requires attention, the fit is not uniform due to the wrong thickness of the thermal pads. 4 Сlevo p870tm1-g 17.3 Fhd 300Hz i9-10980hk ES rtx3060. / Clevo x170smg 17.3 300Hz i9-10850k rtx2070super 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Gskill. / Clevo x170kmg 17.3 2k 165Hz i5-11600k rtx3080 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Hyper-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Thank you @ViktorV, Which pads are you using ?? Right here is what i used, GPU: VRAM = 1.0mm VRM Upper section (1.0mm and 1.5mm) Area you marked to remove is (1.0mm) with the parts above being (1.0mm and 1.5mm), the other side is the same. CPU: Outer VRM (2.5mm) Inner VRM (1.5mm) See i took hardness into account. {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorV Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, solidus1983 said: Thank you @ViktorV, Which pads are you using ?? Also the CPU VRM's i used 2.5mm on the the outer and 1.5mm on the inner. I use exclusively thermal interfaces from Laird, they are also used by Clevo during factory assembly. On vrm cpu should be 1.5mm and 2.5mm, but very soft. 1 Сlevo p870tm1-g 17.3 Fhd 300Hz i9-10980hk ES rtx3060. / Clevo x170smg 17.3 300Hz i9-10850k rtx2070super 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Gskill. / Clevo x170kmg 17.3 2k 165Hz i5-11600k rtx3080 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Hyper-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 @ViktorV Whats the W/mk on them pads, also best place to get them as i have right now some pads on way Syy's 0.5mm to 2.0mm Right followed what you but in picture with using SUYY pads. CPU looks like GPU looks like Which I know means crap contact on the die but everything else has contact. {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorV Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, solidus1983 said: @ViktorV Whats the W/mk on them pads, also best place to get them as i have right now some pads on way Syy's 0.5mm to 2.0mm Laird has many brands of thermal pads and all have different thermal conductivity. On average, from 5w/mk to 12w/mk. But their real thermal conductivity corresponds to the one indicated in the specification, and not like other manufacturers with overestimated w / mk, but in fact it is two or three times lower. 1 Сlevo p870tm1-g 17.3 Fhd 300Hz i9-10980hk ES rtx3060. / Clevo x170smg 17.3 300Hz i9-10850k rtx2070super 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Gskill. / Clevo x170kmg 17.3 2k 165Hz i5-11600k rtx3080 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Hyper-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViktorV Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 To be honest, I mainly use Laird Tflex 300 / Tflex 600 / Tflex 90000 and liquid Laird Tputty 506 / Tputty 607. I am very pleased with these thermal interfaces, although they seem to have not the most outstanding w / mk performance according to the specification, but in reality they are better I have not seen a thermal interface, although I have tried a lot of different manufacturers with supposedly high w / mk rates. 1 Сlevo p870tm1-g 17.3 Fhd 300Hz i9-10980hk ES rtx3060. / Clevo x170smg 17.3 300Hz i9-10850k rtx2070super 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Gskill. / Clevo x170kmg 17.3 2k 165Hz i5-11600k rtx3080 32g ddr4 3200Mhz Hyper-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 @ViktorV I take it my CPU now is better still trying to get GPU right. Thanks for your help ViktorV, however i am just going to give up completely. Concentrate on my new job and call this laptop a day. Will be sending back to PCS for them to repad and paste then getting rid of it. PCS can't repad the system as they only used the ones that came with the heatsink. I have now tried everything so going to just call it quits as I can't get the system back to temp stable any more. So it was nice being in the Clevo club but I am going to move else where for computing. 2 {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Right new heatsink, installed and i am up and running again. CPU is hitting 83c right now but i think i need to reset the bios as the i7 11700k has core ratio of 44 on all cores. However, the GPU is now at 66c with hotspot back at 82c. 3 {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 So now officially have 5.5TB of Storage, I get some strange stability in games when CPU is allowed to go 4.8Ghz+, so have to tune the i7 11700K as currently its now running stable on 4.4Ghz all core, still see temps at 91c on the CPU but thats spikes and also on auto fan. 1 {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossshot Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, solidus1983 said: So now officially have 5.5TB of Storage... 7TB storage 😅 And about CPU power. I limit power in games to PL1 85w and PL2 125w. Works good for me. 3 Clevo X170KM-G // BIOS Clevo 1.07.08 // EC 1.07.04 Intel Core i9-11900K with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme 64GB (2x32GB) Patriot 3200Mhz DDR4 Nvidia RTX 3080 Laptop 16GB with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme 17.3" UHD 4k 60Hz display (calibrated full AdobeRGB) System Win11: 2TB Samsung Pro 980 NVMe SSD System Win10: 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVMe SSD Data: 2TB Samsung Evo 970 NVMe SSD VMware: 1TB Samsung 980 NVMe SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srs2236 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 hours ago, solidus1983 said: So now officially have 5.5TB of Storage, I get some strange stability in games when CPU is allowed to go 4.8Ghz+, so have to tune the i7 11700K as currently its now running stable on 4.4Ghz all core, still see temps at 91c on the CPU but thats spikes and also on auto fan. 91c on autofan.... Then there is my machine which will happily sit at 100c on max fans a lot of times😅 god how do you guys cool your CPUs that well... Also I am about to challenge your 5.5TB and 7TB of @crossshot with 9TB of storage in my P775 😏(with an unfair advantage) 2 Clevo P775TM1-G: Spoiler GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop 16GB (150W, +110MHz Core, +350MHz Mem) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900KS (5GHz, 4GHz Cache, -130mV, 255A, 200W PL1/2) RAM: DDR4 32 GB (3333MHz, 14-17-17-32, 2x16, Micron rev.E, 1.45v) Storage 1: Kingston KC3000 2TB RAID0 (2x1TB, NVME, PCI-E 3.0) Storage 2: Seagate LM015 2TB (2.5, HDD, SATA3) Storage 3: Integral UltimaPro 512GB (SDXC, 100r/50w, PCI-E) Display: AU Optronics B173ZAN0.10 (4K, 60Hz) Wi-Fi/BT: Killer(R) Wireless-AC 1550 (9260NGW, PCI-E) Operating system: Windows 11 Pro x64 (23H2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, srs2236 said: 91c on autofan.... Then there is my machine which will happily sit at 100c on max fans a lot of times😅 god how do you guys cool your CPUs that well... Also I am about to challenge your 5.5TB and 7TB of @crossshot with 9TB of storage in my P775 😏(with an unfair advantage) Some good paste application, with a hint of undervolting and pinch of locking clocks. As for the 5.5TB/7TB challenge didn't know there was one. But if you're going to make one i guess i have to get some 8TB NVME M.2's ordered x4. 1 {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 CPU set to PL1 95w PL2 185w with Ratio on 4 cores at 46 with the other 4 on 45. 86c on this run. {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srs2236 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, solidus1983 said: Some good paste application, with a hint of undervolting and pinch of locking clocks. As for the 5.5TB/7TB challenge didn't know there was one. But if you're going to make one i guess i have to get some 8TB NVME M.2's ordered x4. No of course there are no challenge lol. I made it up. But I was just laughing about it because I for the longest time want to mod a 5TB HDD inside my P775. Seeing that you both had this crazy amount of storage it just motivate me a little bit. And hence it's an unfair advantage as it is a mechanical hard drive which is like old grandpa compared to SSD's😂 But I hate this that the P775 has the space to house a thicker 5TB HDD but it just doesnt line up correctly. But thats why I am going to attempt to force mod it in. And then I will have RAID0 2tb ssd, 2tb hdd and 5tb hdd. If the P775 has two HDD spaces might aswell use it to the maximum extent possible. Clevo P775TM1-G: Spoiler GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop 16GB (150W, +110MHz Core, +350MHz Mem) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900KS (5GHz, 4GHz Cache, -130mV, 255A, 200W PL1/2) RAM: DDR4 32 GB (3333MHz, 14-17-17-32, 2x16, Micron rev.E, 1.45v) Storage 1: Kingston KC3000 2TB RAID0 (2x1TB, NVME, PCI-E 3.0) Storage 2: Seagate LM015 2TB (2.5, HDD, SATA3) Storage 3: Integral UltimaPro 512GB (SDXC, 100r/50w, PCI-E) Display: AU Optronics B173ZAN0.10 (4K, 60Hz) Wi-Fi/BT: Killer(R) Wireless-AC 1550 (9260NGW, PCI-E) Operating system: Windows 11 Pro x64 (23H2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srs2236 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, solidus1983 said: CPU set to PL1 95w PL2 185w with Ratio on 4 cores at 46 with the other 4 on 45. 86c on this run. My 9900KS ain't even close😭 The best I had was 11700 something. And that was with max fan speeds and the CPU cooking at solid 99c😂 But maybe will order a new IHS and have a look into HoneyWell thermal paste/pad magic thing?!? Clevo P775TM1-G: Spoiler GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop 16GB (150W, +110MHz Core, +350MHz Mem) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900KS (5GHz, 4GHz Cache, -130mV, 255A, 200W PL1/2) RAM: DDR4 32 GB (3333MHz, 14-17-17-32, 2x16, Micron rev.E, 1.45v) Storage 1: Kingston KC3000 2TB RAID0 (2x1TB, NVME, PCI-E 3.0) Storage 2: Seagate LM015 2TB (2.5, HDD, SATA3) Storage 3: Integral UltimaPro 512GB (SDXC, 100r/50w, PCI-E) Display: AU Optronics B173ZAN0.10 (4K, 60Hz) Wi-Fi/BT: Killer(R) Wireless-AC 1550 (9260NGW, PCI-E) Operating system: Windows 11 Pro x64 (23H2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crossshot Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Stock Clevo (Style Notes) 1.07.08 is available https://my.hidrive.com/share/yze8mg-wf8#$/BIOS and EC Firmware/CLEVO/X_Series/X170KM-G Clevo X170KM-G // BIOS Clevo 1.07.08 // EC 1.07.04 Intel Core i9-11900K with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme 64GB (2x32GB) Patriot 3200Mhz DDR4 Nvidia RTX 3080 Laptop 16GB with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme 17.3" UHD 4k 60Hz display (calibrated full AdobeRGB) System Win11: 2TB Samsung Pro 980 NVMe SSD System Win10: 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVMe SSD Data: 2TB Samsung Evo 970 NVMe SSD VMware: 1TB Samsung 980 NVMe SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezmoond0 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 5 hours ago, crossshot said: Доступен стоковый Clevo (Style Notes) 1.07.08 https://my.hidrive.com/share/yze8mg-wf8#$/Прошивка BIOS и EC/CLEVO/X_Series/X170KM-G do you have a list of changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikhail64 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 11 hours ago, crossshot said: Stock Clevo (Style Notes) 1.07.08 is available https://my.hidrive.com/share/yze8mg-wf8#$/BIOS and EC Firmware/CLEVO/X_Series/X170KM-G I send to clevo email with question about list of changes 1 Time Spy 14102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus1983 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 New Score for me on CB23 CPU Ratio's 47,47,47,47,46,46,45,45 CPU PL1 100w PL2 215w TAU 128 Voltage Offset -30mv VR Limit 230A {Main System:} The Beast Spoiler {Cooling:} Corsair H170i Elite {Mainboard:} Asrock X670E Pro {CPU/GPU:} AMD Ryzen R9 7900x3D / AMD RX 7900 XTX (Asrock Phantom) {RAM/Storage:} 2x 16GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance 6400MT/s , 13TB WDD SN850X 2x4TB, 2x 2TB, 1x 1TB {PSU/Case:} Corsair RM 1000x V2, Corsair 7000D Airflow (Black) {OS:} Windows 11 Pro Realtek Nahimic 3 Modded Driver for MSI Systems:Latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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