M15x with Clevo GTX 980m results

[deadsmiley]

This appears to be limited to around 80w.   It's running very cool at about 78c for GPU Hot Spot.  I had read on the old site that the GTX 980m was a no go due to heat.  I am guessing that the issue was an unlocked card?  Even with the TDP limit, it's a significantly faster than the M4000M.

 

 

The hardware ID is different from the Dell card so the inf mod required a bit more work.

Modified inf file for driver version 511.65: nvdmig.inf

13D8 = Dell GTX 970m

13D7 = Dell GTX 980m

1617 = Clevo GTX 980m

Firestrike graphics score is about 21% higher than my Quadro M4000M

Quadro M4000M

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/11965759

 

Clevo GTX 980m

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/27146752

 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2022 by deadsmiley
Added modified inf file.

[ssj92]

On 2/4/2022 at 11:02 AM, deadsmiley said:

This appears to be limited to around 80w.   It's running very cool at about 78c for GPU Hot Spot.  I had read on the old site that the GTX 980m was a no go due to heat.  I am guessing that the issue was an unlocked card?  Even with the TDP limit, it's a significantly faster than the M4000M.

 

 

The hardware ID is different from the Dell card so the inf mod required a bit more work.

Modified inf file for driver version 511.65: nvdmig.inf

13D8 = Dell GTX 970m

13D7 = Dell GTX 980m

1617 = Clevo GTX 980m

Firestrike graphics score is about 21% higher than my Quadro M4000M

Quadro M4000M

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/11965759

 

Clevo GTX 980m

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/27146752

 

 

 

I'm going to be performing this same upgrade in a week. Hopefully it works out. I will try to limit mine to 90W instead of ~80W though if I can. 

[deadsmiley]

How did it go?

[jaybee83]

the m15x just keeps going...what about a quadro P5200? 😁

[ssj92]

On 8/2/2023 at 11:53 PM, deadsmiley said:

How did it go?

G-Sync model works fine: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/29887901

[Csupati]

On 8/3/2023 at 10:59 AM, jaybee83 said:

the m15x just keeps going...what about a quadro P5200? 😁

Hey! Pascal cards are no go.  Due to the MB/bios ,ec bios is monitoring signal feedback at the lvds connection/communication.  If you dont have an lvds capable card in it , it wont turn on.

Im trying to get a solution for that, if its even possible. 

[jaybee83]

4 minutes ago, Csupati said:

Hey! Pascal cards are no go.  Due to the MB/bios ,ec bios is monitoring signal feedback at the lvds connection/communication.  If you dont have an lvds capable card in it , it wont turn on.

Im trying to get a solution for that, if its even possible. 

ah that sucks, i remember Pascal onwards was dependant on eDP only, no more lvds. maybe theres some kind of signal adapter? aliexpress always offers crazy stuff like that 😄 

[Csupati]

5 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

ah that sucks, i remember Pascal onwards was dependant on eDP only, no more lvds. maybe theres some kind of signal adapter? aliexpress always offers crazy stuff like that 😄 

Y its sucks,  the lack of optimus/intel hd is the other problem,  if You take it apart,  you can see on the MB there is the lvds connector and next to it there is the place where the edp connector should be , but its missing. Even on the MB, the connector is labeled but its missing. 

[Csupati]

I have found an article on the old NBR forum that says,  the are some early m15x's with soldered edp connector , but alienware never maded cable for it .

Some pics shows there is edp option in bios , and someone was able the get it post with a 1060 but being an lvds screen no image was shown in the internal display.

[jaybee83]

53 minutes ago, Csupati said:

I have found an article on the old NBR forum that says,  the are some early m15x's with soldered edp connector , but alienware never maded cable for it .

Some pics shows there is edp option in bios , and someone was able the get it post with a 1060 but being an lvds screen no image was shown in the internal display.

thats promising though. one could feasibly either solder the eDP connector onto the board, or if you have one of those older models, you could swap out the internal screen with an eDP model. they include the cable for it 🙂 

[Csupati]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

thats promising though. one could feasibly either solder the eDP connector onto the board, or if you have one of those older models, you could swap out the internal screen with an eDP model. they include the cable for it 🙂 

I will dig up the thread,  and paste it here , but its not just an edp connector soldering,  bounch of caps and resistors needed 2 :/, and thats require a technician who has those tiny soldering tools and etc.

[jaybee83]

17 hours ago, Csupati said:

I will dig up the thread,  and paste it here , but its not just an edp connector soldering,  bounch of caps and resistors needed 2 :/, and thats require a technician who has those tiny soldering tools and etc.

ah welp....why cant it just be easy for once? hahaha

[Csupati]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

ah welp....why cant it just be easy for once? hahaha

Alienware M15x EDP mod

[triturbo]

You might source eDP parts from DELL M6600. I think it has the same connector and the cable might be of use. I say might, because I think that it has color board which would make the cable shorter and the output might be custom (i.e. not eDP display standard). You have to double check that with multimeter and the schematics in hand. Good luck!

[Csupati]

If someone need M15X schematics HERE can be founded!

[panda_zzz]

I didn't dare to install the gtx980m in my m15x, and replaced the gtx970m with the m5000m as an upgrade.
It feels faster, although due to reduced frequencies the result in firestrike is lower than the last card's result

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/114892760?
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/114929896?
 

Spoiler

 

[Csupati]

On 7/30/2024 at 12:21 AM, panda_zzz said:

I didn't dare to install the gtx980m in my m15x, and replaced the gtx970m with the m5000m as an upgrade.
It feels faster, although due to reduced frequencies the result in firestrike is lower than the last card's result

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/114892760?
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/114929896?
 

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If im correct FS is DX11 , try with Timespy.

At here the M4000M was faster than the 970M cuz of the 256bit bus  vs the 970m 192bit. The M5000M should be faster.  3D mark website is down,  I will link my results later. 

[panda_zzz]

On 8/8/2024 at 5:59 PM, Csupati said:

try with Timespy

I am using windows 7 as my operating system on this laptop, so running time spy is not possible.
I don't see the point in upgrading to windows 10 on this laptop)

 

If you want another visual test, here's cyberpunk 2077:

 

Spoiler

 

[Csupati]

I found my M4000M firestrike its 6989 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/27375221

[panda_zzz]

39 minutes ago, Csupati said:

I found my M4000M firestrike its 6989 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/27375221

I think your comparison doesn't really fit this thread because you have a different laptop with a newer processor😉

[Csupati]

12 hours ago, panda_zzz said:

I think your comparison doesn't really fit this thread because you have a different laptop with a newer processor😉

The 2 CPU is almost same performance , the 940 is stronger by a litle, i think Your driver has some problem ,cuz its should be stronger than it is now .

[panda_zzz]

31 minutes ago, Csupati said:

The 2 CPU is almost same performance , the 940 is stronger by a litle, i think Your driver has some problem ,cuz its should be stronger than it is now .

The difference between the two processors is 2 generations and yours is almost 2x more powerful than mine 😉

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Core-i7-3610QM-vs-Core-i7-940XM

[Csupati]

10 minutes ago, panda_zzz said:

The difference between the two processors is 2 generations and yours is almost 2x more powerful than mine 😉

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Core-i7-3610QM-vs-Core-i7-940XM

But in firestrike theres a graphics score that is not affected by the cpu score :

 

Graphics Score  8148.0 for the M4000M 

 

Graphics Score  8075.0 for the M5000M

So something is not right with the M5000M,it should be around 9000 .

Maybe thats the difference in Win7 and Win10 . If you have a spare SSD you should try with Win10.

[panda_zzz]

13 minutes ago, Csupati said:

So something is not right with the M5000M,it should be around 9000 .

This is a conditional estimate of the performance of the video card in a particular system, which also depends on the processor.
Here is the evaluation of firestrike in combination with E3-1505M v5 which is 9087

https://www.notebookcheck.info/NVIDIA-Quadro-M5000M.156221.0.html

[Csupati]

16 minutes ago, panda_zzz said:

This is a conditional estimate of the performance of the video card in a particular system, which also depends on the processor.
Here is the evaluation of firestrike in combination with E3-1505M v5 which is 9087

https://www.notebookcheck.info/NVIDIA-Quadro-M5000M.156221.0.html

There is a Graphics score at there  9227 , as i mentioned your graphics score should be around 9k.

 

And why my score with the 3610QM is higher than with the E3-1505M ,my graphics is 8148 vs 7723 ,and the my overall is 6989 vs 6937 .

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-M4000M.151579.0.html