Dell Precision 7690/7790 Pre-release Thread

[Mambucho]

[SvenC]

Just the V CPUs and display with 300 nits - not so interesting - more like Inspiron or Latitude, not Precision

[Mambucho]

6 minutes ago, SvenC said:

Just the V CPUs and display with 300 nits - not so interesting - more like Inspiron or Latitude, not Precision

Look at the price)) and this is not a top-end DELL

[Aaron44126]

Yeah, again, we have yet to see Pro Max Plus which would be the replacement for what we consider "Precision" (7000 series).

 

But yeah, looking at the prices for "Pro Premium" which I understand to be the more-or-less replacement for the popular XPS laptops...

 

The cheapest is Dell Pro 13 Premium at $1,829.00 USD. For that you get Intel Core Ultra 5 "V" CPU, 16 GB of RAM, and 256 GB SSD, and a 300 nit 1200p display. Basically the minimum I'd consider to be passable for a current-gen "OK laptop" for like... web browsing and office work. (At least they didn't try to squeeze it down to 8 GB RAM.)

 

Guys, guys, guys. Not to hawk Apple, but I always thought that Apple was seen to be charging a "premium" for the specs that you get on a MacBook, compared to the price of a "typical" laptop. But it looks like that has been flipped around here. You can get a base MacBook Air 13" with the same RAM/SSD, probably better CPU/GPU, and definitely better display. For $1,099! It's a steal.

 

(I do find it interesting that Dell is not doing that "fake discount" thing they've always done, where they have a higher price struck out to make it look like you're getting a deal. Are we getting to the point where the price is the price? Or maybe that will show up later once they get the store in order.)

[Chalybion]

I'm disappointed by the lack of AI!  I only count 2 AI; if I'm paying 3,000 quid for a laptop, I expect at least 8 AI!

[Chalybion]

These prices are shit; compared with the current XPS 13, Dell is asking 60% (edit:  accounting for currency conversion and no VAT) more for a "new" processor with maayybe 5% performance increase, and a fancy new name?

 

4 hours ago, Mambucho said:

 

[Chalybion]

One last thought since I'm spending way too much time caring about laptop naming convention:

 

I honestly don't understand why Dell didn't keep their distinctive, well thought-of business brands (Latitude, Precision), and instead merged Inspiron/Vostro into a new brand name.  While making the change, they could also do away with the stupid product segmentation where Precision 3000 series = Latitude 5000 series, Precision 5000 series = XPS, and Latitude 3000 series = Vostro = Inspiron.  "XPS" could even become the thin-and-light version of each line-up (Latitude XPS, Precision XPS, etc).

[Aaron44126]

1 hour ago, Chalybion said:

One last thought since I'm spending way too much time caring about laptop naming convention

 

If you haven't seen it, @song_1118 did a great deep dive on the naming convention and also the product model code.

https://notebooktalk.net/topic/2516-your-name-analysis-and-speculation-on-the-dell-pro-max-18-plus-for-the-year-2025-part-1/

 

[AL123]

3 hours ago, Chalybion said:

These prices are shit; compared with the current XPS 13, Dell is asking 60% (edit:  accounting for currency conversion and no VAT) more for a "new" processor with maayybe 5% performance increase, and a fancy new name?

 

 

These new Pro models are not equivalent of XPS, they are what was Latitude for business use. 

 

Anything with Pro in the name is the Latitude business/office range. 
 

The Replacement for the XPS will be known as Dell Premium but aren’t due until summer until then the current XPS will be sold

[ceasar2k6]

Dell and anyone else, sees Apple being able to charge more and they want it, of course. By confusing this public with this name schemes, they assume that passers by will jump in. Now, us, the NICHE, who know products, history, etc this is obviously a ripoff, but we are also not their market... We are the few, the proud, the ones who own at least 3+ gens of dell precision laptops (like me). 

 

In the end, everyone has to vote with their wallet. And, if dell precision is not offering 18" model this year, then I will def look elsewhere. I don't need 16" model. I won't feel bad if I don't have a new, shiny precision model, just like Dell won't feel bad for me for not having the same...

 

I am still pissed that I have to click fn to get to print screen button... LOL. I use that so much these days....

[Aaron44126]

44 minutes ago, ceasar2k6 said:

In the end, everyone has to vote with their wallet. And, if dell precision is not offering 18" model this year, then I will def look elsewhere.

 

18" is coming. We have to wait for "Pro Max Plus". It was mentioned but not detailed in Dell's announcement, they stated it is coming "later this year". But...

https://notebooktalk.net/topic/2514-dell-pro-max-18-plus-and-dell-pro-max-16-plusthis-is-the-name-of-the-flagship-dell-precision-mobile-workstation-for-2025/

[Ionising_Radiation]

I am just sat here, face-palming at the epic failure of a word salad that is the new naming scheme. It's almost like it's meant to confuse and confound, and no one but the most well-informed sysadmins or power users will be able to make an informed purchase decision. 

I am so glad I am (mostly) out of the market for a high-end Dell notebook this year, although I may purchase the AMD versions of whatever XPS/Latitude that is being pushed out—I'd like a reasonably-powerful but dGPU-less remote client so I can remote in to my workstation back home if I want to do anything more powerful than VS Code or some light browsing/office work.

Oh, and I couldn't agree more with @Chalybion—the prices Dell are asking are insane.

[Ionising_Radiation]

I laughed out loud at this banner on the Dell website:

Simplified indeed... Someone must be on the strong stuff.

[Aaron44126]

1 hour ago, AL123 said:

These new Pro models are not equivalent of XPS, they are what was Latitude for business use. 

 

Anything with Pro in the name is the Latitude business/office range. 
 

The Replacement for the XPS will be known as Dell Premium but aren’t due until summer until then the current XPS will be sold

 

Noted. Thanks.

 

Supposed to be simple, huh? How is someone supposed to wander onto the web site and chose between "Dell Pro" and "Dell Premium"? Seems like you have to gain some understanding of what each of these words actually means.

 

And what do they mean?

"Pro" apparently means "business system". (As opposed to iPhone, which they seemingly borrowed this from, where it just means "better".)

"Max" is workstation?

I had originally thought "Premium" meant "slim version", but that appears to be the case for Dell Premium and not Dell Pro Premium.  ...But it is with Dell Pro Max Premium.

"Plus" just means "higher performance than without Plus"?

 

And it doesn't help that they all (Pro + Plus + Premium + Max) basically mean "the better/best version of something" if you just try to read them as English.

 

I guess I want the system with the most superlatives in the name, but it doesn't look like they are planning to offer Dell Pro Max Premium Plus.

[AL123]

12 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

Noted. Thanks.

 

Supposed to be simple, huh? How is someone supposed to wander onto the web site and chose between "Dell Pro" and "Dell Premium"? Seems like you have to gain some understanding of what each of these words actually means.

 

And what do they mean? I had originally thought "Premium" meant "slim version", but that appears to be the case for Dell Premium and not Dell Pro Premium.

 

And it doesn't help that they all (Pro + Plus + Premium + Max) basically mean "the better/best version of something" if you just try to read them as English.

Yeh it’s not just us many of the articles I believe are wrong having presumably watched the briefing! 
 

For workstations atleast you know it has to have Max in the name. 
 

the Premium does seem to be about materials but yeh I thought it was the slim laptops too! 
 

interesting HP beat Dell in confirming they are launching an 18,inch laptop with 3 fans and 200W TDP sound Familiar? Maybe some of the many Dell staff affected by layoffs got hired by HP
 

Theirs says spring but often they seem to launch things but you can’t actually buy them. 
 

https://www.hp.com/us-en/newsroom/press-releases/2025/future-of-work.html

 

 

 

 

[AL123]

Linus tech tips did a good job of explaining the brand changes and somehow go hold of a Pro Max 14 (replaces precision 3490) and Pro Max 16 Premium (replaces Precision 5690) although that one wasn’t finalised specifically wise 

 

the lack of being able to tell which generation is which without referring to an obscure model number is an big downside for me.

atleast with apple it’s M1, M2, M3,M4 etc 

[yslalan]

15 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

I don't think Pro Max (non-Plus) will need 240 watts...

I guess the model on that page is the Pro Max 16 Plus? not quite sure

[Mambucho]

14 hours ago, yslalan said:

I guess the model on that page is the Pro Max 16 Plus? not quite sure

One thing is clear, this is not a top-end solution, the case does not look like performance.

it's about the same as DELL precision 5690, with speakers on the front panel.

the most interesting is yet to come, but the exorbitant price of the lower models is frightening and killer, and gives an idea of the price of the top options

P.S

I had an idea, they will call the top solution “Dell pro MAX performance” 10000$+ 20000$ 256Gb CAMM2 + 22000$ service NVIDIA GPU 🙄

[jeamn]

On 1/7/2025 at 8:42 AM, Aaron44126 said:

The cheapest is Dell Pro 13 Premium at $1,829.00 USD. For that you get Intel Core Ultra 5 "V" CPU, 16 GB of RAM, and 256 GB SSD, and a 300 nit 1200p display. Basically the minimum I'd consider to be passable for a current-gen "OK laptop" for like... web browsing and office work. (At least they didn't try to squeeze it down to 8 GB RAM.)

 

Guys, guys, guys. Not to hawk Apple, but I always thought that Apple was seen to be charging a "premium" for the specs that you get on a MacBook, compared to the price of a "typical" laptop. But it looks like that has been flipped around here. You can get a base MacBook Air 13" with the same RAM/SSD, probably better CPU/GPU, and definitely better display. For $1,099! It's a steal.

 

I've always felt that Dell laptops were overpriced when new.   Even the XPS line has always been as expensive (or more) than their MacBook equivalents.   The only reason I started using Precisions was that they depreciated _horribly_, which made them great candidates for buying an older viable laptop model for a great price, with potential to upgrade.  Buying a new Precision was _way_ over my price point.  Used MacBooks actually hold their value pretty well.

 

On the other hand, I have been using MacBooks professionally for over 10 years and even their old Intel models were a pretty good platform for a decent price.  My biggest gripe has been all the corporate bloatware that gets installed on MacBooks making them functionally equivalent to a crappy windows laptop.   Once your workplace IT requires captive VPN, Microsoft office tools, Teams, Outlook, Microsoft Defender, MacAfee, horrible JAMF management policies, forced $HOME on a SMB share and/or OneDrive, restricted sudo and homebrew policies, and docker/k8s containers running on Rosetta, you are back in the same boat.  A brick for a laptop with the modifiers swapped for all your keyboard shortcuts. 😃  

That's not a criticism of MacBooks, but rather a "don't buy a nice car if you drive on gravel roads" rant, I guess.

[AL123]

Nice overview of Arrow Lake Mobile here 

still reserving judgement until we see reviews but it seems like the efficiency improvements will make a big difference in the new workstation laptops

 

 

[Mambucho]

12 hours ago, Mambucho said:

One thing is clear, this is not a top-end solution, the case does not look like performance.

it's about the same as DELL precision 5690, with speakers on the front panel.

the most interesting is yet to come, but the exorbitant price of the lower models is frightening and killer, and gives an idea of the price of the top options

P.S

I had an idea, they will call the top solution “Dell pro MAX performance” 10000$+ 20000$ 256Gb CAMM2 + 22000$ service NVIDIA GPU 🙄

 

GPU Service 21.000

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