XMG Neo 16/17 E24

[FTW_260]

The temperature results are impressive. Especially in terms of the CPU, but it is very sad that the CPU does not operate at full power (140W+) while simultaneously loading the GPU.

[MiRaGe]

Did you try to fine tune your RAM at 6600?

Those Hynix A dies are phenomenal 

Just from there you can gain 10-12FPS in different game scenarios 

[serpro69]

Nice results @MiRaGe ! Thanks for sharing them and congrats on getting your machine. Wasn't expecting them to start shipping them so soon.

[MiRaGe]

 

[MiRaGe]

6600 DDR5 is a bit unstable on low timings (CL32-39-39-60), but managed to get better stability at 6400 CL30-38-38-60

which one is practically better in your opinion? 

[Etern4l]

Higher frequency if stable. In practice there is a sea of difference between “benchmark stability” and “zero errors”, but for light use and gaming the former might be enough. In this case looks like 6600 for bragging about benchmarks, 6400 max for real use. You can also try stabilising 6600 with looser timings.

[serpro69]

@MiRaGe, have you ever laid your hands on any of the earlier XMG Neo's? If so, did they improve things externally? How is the build quality this time around? Anything that you wish was "better" in your laptop?

How's the LPP connector? Did they fix leaking issues when you disconnect, or example?

 

Any plans to try Linux? 

[MiRaGe]

I’ve never had one of the previous generations XMG Neo, but I like it a lot. It is very well built and there are no gaps or anything which would me make disliking its construction. 
May be I would wish a bit better display as a contrast and technology but the current one is more than adequate. I will stay on Win 11😊

 

this is my result at 6400MHz RAM with CL30-37-37-67 and very tight secondary and tertiary timings:

 

Tonight I’ll play a bit more to tighten them even more. 
 

and this is with 6600MHz with CL32-39-39-60 (a bit looser secondary and tertiary timings, compared to the result above):

 

 

I find the first result is better for gaming, what do you think?

[serpro69]

14 hours ago, MiRaGe said:

I find the first result is better for gaming, what do you think?

I don't do much gaming or overclocking to know which one is better, but I'm sure someone else will be able to answer that.

 

But thanks a lot for sharing your impressions on it.

This looks like a solid competitor to the rest of gaming laptops that are coming this year.

 

Does it feel big/bulky? Would you feel comfortable hauling it around on its own (w/o the LPP package etc)?

[MiRaGe]

1 hour ago, serpro69 said:

Does it feel big/bulky? Would you feel comfortable hauling it around on its own (w/o the LPP package etc)?

Just on a contrary! It is very slim and sleek, I’m still wondering how is possible so much power in such a compact design!

you can take it anywhere!

[MiRaGe]

Guys, how do you find this display brightness distribution?

 

[saturnotaku]

Smartphone camera pictures aren't a good measure for this. As long as it doesn't bother you, that's all that matters.

[serpro69]

What @saturnotaku said.

 

From what I remember, displays on XMG Neo series are far from the best and I doubt one would consider these machines if their priorities for a laptop were in that area, but they're not the worst either.

I personally can't see anything out of the ordinary on the pictures.

[MiRaGe]

Here is the best Icould capture with my phone

 

 

 

Basically the left half appears darker than the right one.

Can you accept this or I am just to picky and sensitive to such an inconsistency?

[serpro69]

Sorry, I still can't see anything. But it's like watching at the problem (if there is one) through multiple layers: your screen -> camera photo -> my screen

I know I can be sensitive to what you're describing. But that's because I want my gadgets to work perfectly in every aspect, which they never do of course  Most of the times if it doesn't bother me too much - I just learn to get used to it.

 

If it's really that notable for you - contact xmg support and see what they say. Could be they'll replace your display panel if it's in fact an issue in your unit and not something that all of their current panels suffer from.

[MiRaGe]

The replacement panel is perfect, very happy I didn‘t settle with the old one:

 

 

the best part is - it doesn‘t have stuck pixels as the original one.

[MiRaGe]

And my best CB23 result:

 

 

close to 36K

[FTW_260]

Playing around timings 🙃

 

[MiRaGe]

Is it stable in OCCT?

[FTW_260]

15 minutes ago, MiRaGe said:

Is it stable in OCCT?

Yes, but additional airflow is required to lower the temperature.

I'm booting at 7000, but it's still very unstable.

[MiRaGe]

what are the voltages at 6800?

[FTW_260]

Memory Voltage: 1365

Memory Voltage VDDQ: 1350

[MiRaGe]

very good voltages!

Hynix A-die?

Who is the memory manufacturer?

Can you share all the timings in your bios with a screenshot?

 

[FTW_260]

Yes, its a binned A-Die from HyperX Kit: KF564S38IBK2-32

I'll send you the timings a little later when I get to the laptop.

[MiRaGe]

Thanks in advance!🙏🏻

 

can you share your CB23 and Geekbench 6 results too?

 

here is mine (Geekbench 6):

 

 

finally under 61ns latency: