Precision 7670 & 7770 pre-release discussion (Alder Lake)

[Aaron44126]

13 minutes ago, microdou said:

My question is, how can I find the phone of a sales rep? Dell website provides a list of phone numbers... Have no idea which one to call.

 

Use the small business sales phone number.  Or, just use the online chat (pick business sales).  Click the blue "Contact us" button at the bottom right of the product pages to kick off the chat.  (Even though it says 8am-1pm for the hours there, they've had someone available at all times that I have checked including during the evening.)  I ended up going through a chat rep to place my initial order (from June that was cancelled).  You can just tell them what model you're interested in and then go through the specs/options that you want, and they'll generate a quote to email over to you.  You can finish the order by pressing the button at the top of the quote.

 

Check the quote carefully before ordering (be it phone rep or chat rep) and make sure that everything is exactly right.  Smaller things like whether or not SSD door is included, fingerprint reader, backlit keyboard, and so forth are things that they tend to get wrong for me...

[microdou]

3 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

Use the small business sales phone number.  Or, just use the online chat.

Thank you so much! Will find out what additional discount I will get!

 

Can't wait for your overclocking guide on 7770 😁

[operator]

Just found the unboxing video of the Precision 7670 model, uploaded by Dell:

 

 

....well not quite what I understand as an unboxing video....but better than nothing. 🙂 

[Aaron44126]

48 minutes ago, operator said:

unboxing

 

Well, the Precision 7560's that we got last year came in individual boring plain brown cardboard shipping boxes, so if they really do have "slick" black boxes designed specifically for these systems (like they also do for XPS / Precision 5000), that's sort of cool.  ...Not that it really matters that much what the box looks like, once you're past the first few minutes of having the system.

 

[Edit]

Noticed that they have a proper unboxing of the Precision 5470 featuring @Dell-Mano_G...

They also have some for the new Latitude systems and it seems like they're using the same design ideas across the board.

[operator]

5 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

Noticed that they have a proper unboxing of the Precision 5470 featuring @Dell-Mano_G...

Very cool. That's an unboxing video! 😄

[FabeFromBOD]

On 7/7/2022 at 6:55 PM, FabeFromBOD said:

 

Good news for you, I think it's a good choice although the price is indeed prohibitive.

 

I think current world situation has not improved things. I think I did well to ask for my quote a month ago, the price was locked. and 3800€ for a configuration like mine is not a bad price.

 

Shipping date confirm 08-25

 

[Aaron44126]

40 minutes ago, FabeFromBOD said:

Shipping date confirm 08-25

 

I'm a little bit curious why yours shows six segments on the order status page, and mine shows five.  Do they have an extra status for some non-U.S. territories?  The status that shows on mine are:

• Order received by Dell
• Confirmed
• In production
• Shipped
• Delivered

 

(You should be able to see them all listed out if you view the same page in a desktop browser.)

 

In this case, "In production" also covers the time after the build is complete, when it is still making its way from the factory in China to a local shipping depot.  They usually won't mark it "shipped" until they have a local tracking number for it.  (Sometimes they ship directly from China via UPS or something, and in that case it will be marked shipped and you'll see progress from China when you track it.)

 

Holding out hope that it will arrive a bit early, before the end of July.  Precision 7560's ordered at launch last year shipped after being in "in production" status for 15 days (and that was when global shipping lanes were more jammed up than now).  I also ordered a Precision 7530 at launch in 2018 and it was received 20 days after launch.  (I can't pull up the history on that one to see when it went from "confirmed" to "production" to "shipped".)  This 7770 has second-day shipping so it won't be long from "shipped" to receipt.

[operator]

6 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

I'm a little bit curious why yours shows six segments on the page and mine shows five.  

 

I have also six. There is "build completed" between "in production" and "shipped".

 

[Aaron44126]

27 minutes ago, operator said:

I have also six. There is "build completed" between "in production" and "shipped".

 

OK, so they might be telling you when it is on the way from the China factory to a local shipping depot, where in the case for me, that time will still be covered by "In production".

 

...Suspecting machines built in China and going to the U.S. go pretty quickly via cargo plane (they probably wouldn't be able to meet their estimated arrival if it went by sea) but maybe that is not the case for all destinations... 🤔

[Dell-Mano_G]

1 hour ago, operator said:

Very cool. That's an unboxing video! 😄

Really hate watching myself on video.  LOL  Ha ha ha 🙂 

[operator]

2 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

.Suspecting machines built in China and going to the U.S. go pretty quickly via cargo plane (they probably wouldn't be able to meet their estimated arrival if it went by sea) but maybe that is not the case for all destinations... 🤔

 

I think so, as also the delivery date is a lot eralier for your 7770 than mine 7670 shipping to Europe.

But could be related to the faster build process on 7770 devices. 🙂

[operator]

On 6/7/2022 at 9:27 PM, Dell-Mano_G said:

I don't have the PWM freq for the OLED.  Sorry. I can look. 

 

@Dell-Mano_G Do you have some PWM info at all for any of the screens in 7670/7770?

 

Thanks

[Aaron44126]

BIOS update 1.3.1 has been re-posted.  It's not the same file posted previously; this one has a signature date of July 12.

 

https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=16RVV

[pintie]

my "all in" should be delivered end auf august.

i9, OLED, 128GB CAMM, RTX A5500, ... no WWAN possible due to OLED.

i will install 3 x Samsung 980 PRO 2TB drives. It will be interesting wich RAID configuration is possible.

The configurator only let you choose RAID 1 with two Drives.  One big 6TB RAID with three drives would be perfect but i guess it will not work.

 

Price is way under the configurator - but i get an university discount.

[Aaron44126]

14 minutes ago, pintie said:

i will install 3 x Samsung 980 PRO 2TB drives. It will be interesting wich RAID configuration is possible.

The configurator only let you choose RAID 1 with two Drives.  One big 6TB RAID with three drives would be perfect but i guess it will not work.

 

RAID 1 is mirroring so it really only makes sense to do with two drives.

If you want RAID 0 (striping / "one big drive") then you should be able to do it with three drives.

 

Easy enough to set up RAID arrays after you receive the system.  Intel's configurator is much more flexible than what you see playing with the Dell web site...

[samatsu]

I would like to know how to choose a Dell Docking Station for the Precision M7670 / M7770 Mobile Workstation?

[operator]

29 minutes ago, samatsu said:

I would like to know how to choose a Dell Docking Station for the Precision M7670 / M7770 Mobile Workstation?

 

There is an official list from Dell:

https://www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-us/products/electronics-and-accessories/technical-support/dell_docking_compatibility_guide.pdf

 

 

[Aaron44126]

35 minutes ago, samatsu said:

I would like to know how to choose a Dell Docking Station for the Precision M7670 / M7770 Mobile Workstation?

 

If you want to use single-cable docking (no AC adapter connected to the system) — WD19DC / WD19DCS is your only real choice.  (Note, 7770 might take a performance hit with only 210W of power available instead of 240W.)

 

If you are willing to use dock cable + AC adapter plugged directly into the system — pick any dock you want (even third-party).

[pintie]

17 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

RAID 1 is mirroring so it really only makes sense to do with two drives.

If you want RAID 0 (striping / "one big drive") then you should be able to do it with three drives.

 

Easy enough to set up RAID arrays after you receive the system.  Intel's configurator is much more flexible than what you see playing with the Dell web site...

 

you're right -  RAID 0...

in the Configurator "Raid 0 is only allowed with 2 Hard Drives. Please amend your selection from the provided links."

 

I'm not sure how the 3 drives are connected. i guess only one uses the direct PCIe connection from the CPU. The other two are connected with the Chipset i guess.

 

I will see... If i can make a 6TB Drive out of the 3 Drives it would be nice.

[microdou]

On 7/12/2022 at 8:08 PM, Aaron44126 said:

just use the online chat (pick business sales)

Just placed the order of 7770 with 128G RAM and A5500 GPU.

 

The estimated delivery date is end of August. It will be a painful long wait 😅

 

Thanks again for your help!

[Aaron44126]

On 7/14/2022 at 9:41 AM, pintie said:

my "all in" should be delivered end auf august.

i9, OLED, 128GB CAMM, RTX A5500, ... no WWAN possible due to OLED.

 

19 minutes ago, microdou said:

Just placed the order of 7770 with 128G RAM and A5500 GPU.

 

Curious why you guys selected A5500 over GeForce RTX 3080 Ti?  GeForce will offer the same performance for cheaper in many cases.  Do you use ISV/professional applications?  (If so, it totally makes sense.)

 

Did anyone else order from U.S. territory?  I'm also wondering why I'm the only one with an early August ETA.

 

I was looking back at the Precision 7X30 pre-release thread yesterday.  Seems like a few early purchasers all got their systems around the same few days despite being in different countries.

https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-7730-5530-7530-coffee-lake-pre-release.809278/page-30.html#post-10750185

 

I remember deliveries of last year's 7X60 systems being much more staggered out even among early purchasers.  (Figured this was due to supply chain / global shipping issues, which are still a problem now but should be better than last year...)

[CZabel]

2 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

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Did anyone else order from U.S. territory?  I'm also wondering why I'm the only one with an early August ETA.

...

 

I ordered from the US, and also have an August 24th ship date. I got my order in on the 12th, which could play into the later date - you got one of the first batch, I got the second.  

[samatsu]

My Dell business told me about 8~10 weeks to ship, and I ordered the M7670 on 7/11. 

[Pultzar]

In the 7670 video posted by dell, the screen looks rather glossy does it not?  Their specs say matte, which would be odd for a touch screen oled...

[Aaron44126]

41 minutes ago, Pultzar said:

In the 7670 video posted by dell, the screen looks rather glossy does it not?  Their specs say matte, which would be odd for a touch screen oled...

 

I was going to check but it looks like that video has now been marked private... but you are right, I'd expect a touch/OLED to be glossy.  That said, I have seen matte LCD touchscreens before, and I've never seen an OLED panel in a laptop at all (just in phones which are obviously glossy), so my expectations might be off.

 

54 minutes ago, CZabel said:

I ordered from the US, and also have an August 24th ship date. I got my order in on the 12th, which could play into the later date - you got one of the first batch, I got the second.  

 

Thanks.  I got my order in on the first day, but I know @operator ordered before me (from Europe) and also has a late August date.  We were previously speculating that maybe 7770 systems are a bit more ready to go than 7670, but I haven't seen any other early 7770's either.  So, I'm little bit worried that my estimate is inappropriately optimistic because it doesn't line up with everyone else's.  But it did go to production status within 72 hours, and based on past experience, that means it should be here within two weeks or so.