M17X R4, turning on and off, on and off, on and off... after change from Legacy to UEFI

[emcze]

I have problem with M17X R4, I installed unlocked BIOS without problem but I changed from Legacy to UEFI and... M17X now only power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off...........

 

After removed CMOS battery I have 5 beeps but after restarted still power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off....

legacy to uefi

It looks like "BIOS will not allow POST to complete without TPM handshake with original TPM Windows 10 or TPM Windows 11 (C:) boot disk" and  "If your motherboard's security feature refuses to be unlocked or has been corrupted, a new motherboard is your only option."

 

Maybe another solution ?? 

[sliderfra]

hi,

did you try to clear CMOS?

Worst case scenario you need CH341A to reflash the main bios chip

[emcze]

3 minutes ago, sliderfra said:

hi,

did you try to clear CMOS?

 

Hi, 

 

Yes, I tried. I removed system battery, removed CMOS battery, pressed power button 30 sec and shorted + - CMOS battery for discharge capacitor. After this I had 5 beeps but after restart still the same. 

I removed all drive and did the same - without result. 

I tried with another HD / SD without result. 

M17X not post to the BIOS. 

[sliderfra]

it looks bad. Do you have ch341A? You could reflash the main bios with it. I strongly recommand to reflash same bios revision with a clean bin file.

Which bios did you have?

[emcze]

Was A15, now is A15 unlocked. 

I have second m17x R4 with flashed unlocked BIOS and works good with the same settings. My m18x R2 works too. 

 

Yes, I have ch341a programmer. I bought it before purchase Quadro RTX3000. 

[aldarxt]

3 hours ago, emcze said:

Was A15, now is A15 unlocked. 

I have second m17x R4 with flashed unlocked BIOS and works good with the same settings. My m18x R2 works too. 

 

Yes, I have ch341a programmer. I bought it before purchase Quadro RTX3000. 

Which m17xr4? 120hz, try pulling the GPU and do full cmos reset. you should get the 8 beeps. Then install GTX 680m and see if it resets. On the 120hz it's necessary to have the 680 for a backup. This happened to my m17xr4 120hz when I tried installing AMD RX 6600 XT. Just kept restarting and power button was useless, forget what I did to stop it, like unplugging or maybe removing the battery, was stressing out LOL.

I can't get the RTX 3000 to work in it, but RTX 3000 works in m17xr4 60hz.

[emcze]

1 hour ago, aldarxt said:

Which m17xr4? 120hz

Yes, 120hz display. 

 

1 hour ago, aldarxt said:

try pulling the GPU and do full cmos reset. you should get the 8 beeps.

ooooo, I will try it now... wait a minute 🙂

 

 

 

[aldarxt]

18 minutes ago, emcze said:

Yes, 120hz display. 

 

ooooo, I will try it now... wait a minute 🙂

 

 

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Also the RTX 3000 will Not work with 120hz, but P4000 will work after GTX 680 is installed and Pure EUFI enabled and legacy option rom disabled and win 8.1 disabled in BIOS

[emcze]

1 hour ago, aldarxt said:

try pulling the GPU and do full cmos reset. you should get the 8 beeps.

 

Ok, I removed 680, after that clear CMOS - I have 5 beeps.

I turned off and turned on and have 8 beeps.

I installed 680 turned on and... the same fu...ng restart, again and again.

 

maybe I remove 680 and ith 8 beeps tried to blind flash ?? or use BIOS programer to put BIOS ??

[aldarxt]

36 minutes ago, emcze said:

 

Ok, I removed 680, after that clear CMOS - I have 5 beeps.

I turned off and turned on and have 8 beeps.

I installed 680 turned on and... the same fu...ng restart, again and again.

 

maybe I remove 680 and ith 8 beeps tried to blind flash ?? or use BIOS programer to put BIOS ??

I don't think you can blind flash if it keeps restarting. The programmer might be the only option. If you haven't started that try F2 to bios as it keeps restarting, keep trying a few times. I think that I might have done that and was surprised I got in but was not able to do it again. Also secure boot should be disabled

[emcze]

42 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

I don't think you can blind flash if it keeps restarting.

 

1. I formated USB stick via Rufus with MS-DOS

2. Download A05 BIOS for R4

3. Extracted files and took QBR00EC.fd to empty USB stick.

4. Renamed this file to M17R4.HDR 

5. Removed system battery and power cord

6. I put USB stick to eSATA socket in M17X R4

7. Held END button on keyboard and plugged power adapter

 

M17X turned on fans with full RPM and lights on keyboard, after about one minute started to beep... after 134 beeps computer turned off. I turned it on and had 5 beeps. Turned off and on one more time and works !!!

 

[emcze]

I have now blue screen with "inaccessible boot device". I will repair win11 later now will try with LEGACY disable.

Installed A15 + - works

Changed to start UEFI -works

Changed to SG mode - after restart still is PEG and only Nvidia visible in BIOS.

Disabled LEGACY - and info "Can't Detect MXM card GOP driver" 

 

I think that problem is in my GTX680M, maybe old BIOS ?? 

 

First I repair win11 and check BIOS version. After that I checked my old 680 from M18X R2 - maybe is newer. If not I try to reflash 680.

 

[aldarxt]

16 minutes ago, emcze said:

I have now blue screen with "inaccessible boot device". I will repair win11 later now will try with LEGACY disable.

Installed A15 + - works

Changed to start UEFI -works

Changed to SG mode - after restart still is PEG and only Nvidia visible in BIOS.

Disabled LEGACY - and info "Can't Detect MXM card GOP driver" 

 

I think that problem is in my GTX680M, maybe old BIOS ?? 

 

First I repair win11 and check BIOS version. After that I checked my old 680 from M18X R2 - maybe is newer. If not I try to reflash 680.

 

120hz needs to be in PEG mode. SG does not work with this screen. The CPU cannot run the graphics for it. Thats why the GTX 680 is needed. I could not upgrade mine for a long time till I found out the P4000 works but with the 680 for backup, to set it up then DDU from safe mode and driver signal disabled and now it has P4000 in PEG.

[emcze]

2 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

120hz needs to be in PEG mode. SG does not work with this screen.

 

Ok. Now I understand, but why I can't disable LEGACY ?? 

[aldarxt]

3 minutes ago, emcze said:

 

Ok. Now I understand, but why I can't disable LEGACY ?? 

With A15+ unlocked bios you should be able to disable Legacy option rom  ???

[emcze]

20 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

you should be able to disable

 

All time when I try I have this info:

 

[aldarxt]

 

 

 

here is my bios

[emcze]

9 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

here is my bios

I have the same in m18x r2 and second m17x r4

 

 

but on m17x r4 120hz can't disable LEGACY because of warning about GOP driver.

[aldarxt]

Is your screen plugged in here

[aldarxt]

4 minutes ago, emcze said:

I have the same in m18x r2 and second m17x r4

 

 

but on m17x r4 120hz can't disable LEGACY because of warning about GOP driver.

That is strange but not necessary, the GTX 680 should run both enabled or disabled for legacy, but only PEG

[emcze]

I will check connector but probably the same place. With my 680 works only with legacy. Probably old Vbios. 

[emcze]

17 hours ago, aldarxt said:

the GTX 680 should run both enabled or disabled for legacy

 

I removed 680 from m17x and compared with 680 from m18x

 

 

when I installed this second one I can change to LEGACY DISABLED without problem. 

 

 

it like problem with turn on turn off was from old 680 without GOP driver in vbios. I need to compare BIOS ver.

 

EDIT:

 

First visible diference is SLI port. 680 from my m18x has SLI ( right side ) 680 from m17x has black tape. I removed it and...

 

 

only soldering pads.

[aldarxt]

On 6/30/2024 at 5:56 AM, emcze said:

 

I removed 680 from m17x and compared with 680 from m18x

 

 

when I installed this second one I can change to LEGACY DISABLED without problem. 

 

 

it like problem with turn on turn off was from old 680 without GOP driver in vbios. I need to compare BIOS ver.

 

EDIT:

 

First visible diference is SLI port. 680 from my m18x has SLI ( right side ) 680 from m17x has black tape. I removed it and...

 

 

only soldering pads.

That's the SLI pad, why would it be missing? It wouldn't be needed for m17xr4, I guess different manufacturer's or applied for each model's purpose

[sliderfra]

the one without SLI connector is MSI GTX 680m. It's not a dell card. But you could crossflash vbios

[IVHOTEP]

On 6/28/2024 at 6:34 PM, emcze said:

I have problem with M17X R4, I installed unlocked BIOS without problem but I changed from Legacy to UEFI and... M17X now only power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off...........

 

After removed CMOS battery I have 5 beeps but after restarted still power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off, power on and power off....

legacy to uefi

It looks like "BIOS will not allow POST to complete without TPM handshake with original TPM Windows 10 or TPM Windows 11 (C:) boot disk" and  "If your motherboard's security feature refuses to be unlocked or has been corrupted, a new motherboard is your only option."

 

Maybe another solution ?? 

Hi there!

 

!"but I changed from Legacy to UEFI"

 

just switched? As I remember I had to do a disk format partition to GPT to reinstall windows so it can work in UEFI mode, could that be it?