cdoublejj Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Can I get an MXM card newer than GTX1070? if so where? M17x R4. Used to be you could hit up Woodzstacz before Mondocorp burned the forums to the ground. EDIT: currently a Woodzstack GTX980. would a 4060 be faster if a 1070 is almost twice as fast as a 980? SO the 4060 vbios is a nogo right now and intel arc is an option? https://iot.asus.com/gpu-edge-ai-accelerators/google-tpu/filter?Series=MXM-GPU-Module https://www.adlinktech.com/Products/Embedded_Graphics/Graphics_Solutions/MXM-AXe RTX non gaming cards? https://www.pcpsol.com/en/products.php?cid=92 i assume these are all of the options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda_zzz Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Right now the rtx3000-rtx5000 on the Turing architecture, analogous to the mobile 2060-2080, is guaranteed to work. Newer quadro rtx cards require certain features that are not in the bios of older machines such as m17x r4 | r5 or m18x r2. Perhaps in the future there will be video bios available for them to work properly. The situation with Chinese cards of three thousand and four thousand series is also still unclear, so at the moment it's a lottery. Cards from Intel require the same features as the new quadro rtx cards and probably won't work either, but it's not known for sure, no one has tried it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarG Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 For 3000 and 4000 series you need "Above 4G decoding" option in BIOS rom to work. Turing aka Quadro RTX and 2000 series is max you can upgrade, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runix18 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 One can add Above 4g decoding and rebar suport to any UEFI bios. Some DXE drivers needs to be added to the bios and maybe patch the DSDT. Desktop - MSI X670E Tomahawk Wifi (cheap Ebay mobo that I fixed) | AMD 7800X3D | 32 GB Trident Z5 Neo RGB 6000Mhz | MSI RTX 4070TI Suprim X | Alienware 27 AW2724DM 2K 165 Hz Gsync | Samsung 990 Pro Nvme - Boot | Other various storage | Windows 10 Pro x64 SOLD - Clevo P870DM-G | i9-9700K 4.5 Ghz on all cores (-50 mv undervolted) | 32GB Hyper X Black 2666MHz | Clevo RTX 2080 3.1b undervolted for better temp 1905Mhz @881 mv | AUO B173HAN03.1 144hz Gsync | Samsung 980 NVME | Dsanke TM BIOS - Chujoi13 adapted based on needs | Network Card: Intel AX210-AX | Windows 10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda_zzz Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 4 hours ago, runix18 said: One can add Above 4g decoding and rebar suport to any UEFI bios. Some DXE drivers needs to be added to the bios and maybe patch the DSDT. Unfortunately not any. If 4g decoding was not originally supported in the bios, it cannot be added, at least at the moment. Rebar will not work if there is no 4g decoding function in the bios, although you can add it with a third-party UEFI driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runix18 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 44 minutes ago, panda_zzz said: Unfortunately not any. If 4g decoding was not originally supported in the bios, it cannot be added, at least at the moment. Rebar will not work if there is no 4g decoding function in the bios, although you can add it with a third-party UEFI driver. From what I know, H77 chipset board has the module, at least for AMI bioses. Idunno for Insyde. Desktop - MSI X670E Tomahawk Wifi (cheap Ebay mobo that I fixed) | AMD 7800X3D | 32 GB Trident Z5 Neo RGB 6000Mhz | MSI RTX 4070TI Suprim X | Alienware 27 AW2724DM 2K 165 Hz Gsync | Samsung 990 Pro Nvme - Boot | Other various storage | Windows 10 Pro x64 SOLD - Clevo P870DM-G | i9-9700K 4.5 Ghz on all cores (-50 mv undervolted) | 32GB Hyper X Black 2666MHz | Clevo RTX 2080 3.1b undervolted for better temp 1905Mhz @881 mv | AUO B173HAN03.1 144hz Gsync | Samsung 980 NVME | Dsanke TM BIOS - Chujoi13 adapted based on needs | Network Card: Intel AX210-AX | Windows 10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdoublejj Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 there was an unlocked bios for the R4 at some point, or so i thought. guess i need to poke around my bios and see what i have. well it's nice to know it's matter of naming scheme, so the rtx 3k and 4k aren't' quadros. ARC is too unpredictable atm and haven't seen an AMD MXM in a loong while. i'm bad about bios mods, i can sort of follow the guides until they ask you to look for a hex value or address at which point my brain.exe stops responding. You guys think it might be possible to PAY someone to mod my bios? am i going to need windows or can i get by with bootable USB to flash my bios? perhaps i am putting the cart before the horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runix18 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 52 minutes ago, cdoublejj said: there was an unlocked bios for the R4 at some point, or so i thought. guess i need to poke around my bios and see what i have. well it's nice to know it's matter of naming scheme, so the rtx 3k and 4k aren't' quadros. ARC is too unpredictable atm and haven't seen an AMD MXM in a loong while. i'm bad about bios mods, i can sort of follow the guides until they ask you to look for a hex value or address at which point my brain.exe stops responding. You guys think it might be possible to PAY someone to mod my bios? am i going to need windows or can i get by with bootable USB to flash my bios? perhaps i am putting the cart before the horse. you have PM Desktop - MSI X670E Tomahawk Wifi (cheap Ebay mobo that I fixed) | AMD 7800X3D | 32 GB Trident Z5 Neo RGB 6000Mhz | MSI RTX 4070TI Suprim X | Alienware 27 AW2724DM 2K 165 Hz Gsync | Samsung 990 Pro Nvme - Boot | Other various storage | Windows 10 Pro x64 SOLD - Clevo P870DM-G | i9-9700K 4.5 Ghz on all cores (-50 mv undervolted) | 32GB Hyper X Black 2666MHz | Clevo RTX 2080 3.1b undervolted for better temp 1905Mhz @881 mv | AUO B173HAN03.1 144hz Gsync | Samsung 980 NVME | Dsanke TM BIOS - Chujoi13 adapted based on needs | Network Card: Intel AX210-AX | Windows 10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdoublejj Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 apparently google is thing. i thought all was lost after NBR fire, assuming all was burnt it looks like some stuff has been redisscussed or scraped and put here, all of which hits google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda_zzz Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 4 hours ago, runix18 said: From what I know, H77 chipset board has the module, at least for AMI bioses. Idunno for Insyde. Aptio Ami bios for 2013 Alienware 14 (Intel HM87) has support for 4g decoding, earlier platforms are made on Insyde bios and there is no this feature. At least the latest versions of m17x r4/r5 and m18x r2/viking don't have this feature - I searched in the bios dumps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdoublejj Posted October 21 Author Share Posted October 21 So if I understand, It won't boot with video without above 4g decoding and it can't be modded in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda_zzz Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 3 hours ago, cdoublejj said: So if I understand, It won't boot with video without above 4g decoding and it can't be modded in The presence of this feature in the system bios is verified by vbios of the video card itself. And if this function is not found, then the video card does not start and does not let the whole system start. Perhaps it can be bypassed by selecting a third-party vbios or getting pny/aethina/etc tech support to provide vbios without this check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdoublejj Posted November 1 Author Share Posted November 1 i'm guessing a 115 watts is a shit ton for a laptop? https://www.pcpsol.com/en/product_detail.php?id=225&cid=92&page=1 https://www.pcpsol.com/en/product_detail.php?id=230&cid=92&page=1 Not that i don't have some dumb ideas for portable desktop chonk EDIT: does anyone even know what the A15 bios even offers? i assume it's the Meltdown exploit patches which cost performance on some operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalybion Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 115 watts should be no problem for a heatsink with 2+ heatpipes on the GPU. It looks like the M17x R4 has three heat pipes, so it should run cool. Probably need a 240W power supply minimum Precision 7520 / Xeon E3-1535m v6 / 32 gb DDR4 2666 MHz CL15 / GTX 1650 Mobile / LP156QHG-SP(V1) Precision 7540 / i9-9980HK / 32 gb DDR4 2666 MHz CL15 / RTX 4000 / LP156QHG-SP(V1) / Delta Fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdoublejj Posted November 1 Author Share Posted November 1 i got a 330 and am also looking at doubling the heat size, i may also have a 5 heatpipe cooler around here. anyone know how much an RTX5000 should cost and where to get one? and how much for a 3500 for that matter? wonder if an overclocked ivy bridge can even keep up beyond an rtx3500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda_zzz Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 3 hours ago, cdoublejj said: anyone know how much an RTX5000 should cost and where to get one? and how much for a 3500 for that matter? wonder if an overclocked ivy bridge can even keep up beyond an rtx3500 Not sure if RTX3500 with Ada Lovelace chip will work in m17x r4. RTX5000 with Turing chip will almost certainly work. but note that both cards have a different location of holes for the cooling system radiator. as an option you can buy a rtx3000-rtx5000 card from hp zbook 17 g6 laptop - they are cheaper and not as rare as industrial rtx5000 although they also require some modification of the cooling system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdoublejj Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 any posted pics of making a cooler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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